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Old 09-30-2009, 07:25 AM
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New 16,000 lumen fixture

Received a response from S.F. Sage earlier this year about making a vanity fixture. Yesterday i decided to make one. It took me 2 minutes from the information Sage had given me. There are 10 bulbs here with lumen count individually 1600-1850 each. So for about 10$bucks you can add some needed to light to your space to little cost.


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Old 09-30-2009, 08:58 AM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

In my opinion, I would seperate those CFLs into 1-2 bulb fixtures and have them everywhere, versus all on the top there...
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:11 AM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

bump....light does go everywhere, and again this is in addition to my big metal Halide, I don't want light on the bottom, I am trying to help direct light to the plants below the fixture. Not cover walls or carpet with light. But I appreciate the response. When they get bigger, I will see if they could use some extra light and the bottom of the layout.

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Old 10-01-2009, 07:28 AM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

Should I flower now? Any suggestions on this because earlier this year in my first grow I Vegged for 3 and half months. Going into I had 3ft tall babies and ended up with damn near 5ft tall 12 plants at end of harvest.. With HUGE fucking COLAS. But I also used my grow tent which I am not using this grow. So with light being reduced about 20% I was considering flowering within two weeks after some more training. I just dont want to rush vegging and not having the strength for flowering.

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Old 10-05-2009, 08:12 AM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

Hey folks,

Just and update*

400watt MH/HPS cool tube, 45,000 lumen 6500k
vanity fixture with mylar hood CFL, 15,750 lumen 5500-6600k (homemade DIY)
18 plants-Crystal, Afgan x Mazar and some mixed indicas.
1 month and three weeks in to Veg.
feeding Big Grow FF, Alaskan Fish Fertilizer, Molasses
Indoor closet setup
A few more weeks of veg training and I will flip the switch to 12/12


When I flower I will use

400watt MH/HPS cool tube, 55,000 lumen 2700k
vanity fixture with mylar hood CFL, 16,660 lumen 2700-3000k(homemade DIY)
Air cooled HPS 150watt 16,000 Lumen
Tiger Bloom FF, Open Sesame and Beatie Bloom FF nutes
12-14 plants

Pics as they come will be updated.

Please respond if you have something Thanks,

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Old 10-05-2009, 08:57 AM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

might just be the camera, but a few of those light bulbs look like they aren't quite as bright as they should be. perhaps you don't have enough current to satisfy the bulb's demands?
 
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:33 AM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

Nope it is very very bright! Plus the connectors only push out 60watt max, so even if it is 100watts I will lose 40w per bulb just with the connectors. The picture was taken to allow viewing of the plants. If I would of focused it would of have a huge bright spot instead of the picture. If I even stare briefly in the grow space im blinded for about 8 seconds. Thanks for your concern to respond but brightness is not my issue here luckily lol. Now actually looking at the picture it is odd that it came out so dark???!! esp from the other pics which were taken in the same space? Anyhoo no worries
 
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Nope it is very very bright! Plus the connectors only push out 60watt max, so even if it is 100watts I will lose 40w per bulb just with the connectors.
This isn't correct. Your "connectors" may be rated at 60 watts but they'll pull 100 through them until they burn up.
As far as spreading the lights around the grow I think you're missing the point. You can get substantial growth on the sides of your plants by lighting the sides. He's not suggesting you light the floor or walls. You use reflectors to reflect the light back to the plants.

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Old 10-06-2009, 06:14 AM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

No I totally understand what he is saying. I don't need any lighting perhaps right now on the sides. You can't picture what I see but my grow room right now has no need for lighting on the bottom. Because I am LST I am utilizing the lights I have to penetrate the areas that needs more light. But the grow space is incredibly bright. But anyhoo not trying to debate about anything esp my own space. But like I said when I need more light to spread about the bottom I will do so. The only reflector I use is with the hood I made. Obviously to throw light back downward. There are also mylar sides within my space so light is reflected back to the plants from every door and inside wall. Again thanks for your responses.

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Old 10-06-2009, 07:39 AM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

Are you not going to use molasses during flower, only during veg? I thought it was supposed to help the buds form during flowering?
 
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:22 AM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

Yeah I will, I use it lightly during Veg but during flower I will kick it up a bit. From my earlier harvest this year I def enjoyed the usage of Mola. It helps with so much in our operations lol. The soil, the stem, the buds, the trichs all affected by this sugary residue. I will use it like twice a month or little more when I get into flowering. But right now I water with it for soil and carb booster for my plants stems and legs. My roots love it too. They seem to jump and glow when I feed em. I don't and wouldnt use too much. Could def affect your plant after too much. But always check your ph and u r solid! NEXT DAY RESULTS!

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No I totally understand what he is saying. I don't need any lighting perhaps right now on the sides. You can't picture what I see but my grow room right now has no need for lighting on the bottom. Because I am LST I am utilizing the lights I have to penetrate the areas that needs more light. But the grow space is incredibly bright. But anyhoo not trying to debate about anything esp my own space. But like I said when I need more light to spread about the bottom I will do so. The only reflector I use is with the hood I made. Obviously to throw light back downward. There are also mylar sides within my space so light is reflected back to the plants from every door and inside wall. Again thanks for your responses.

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gotcha. I don't use side lighting either, seems like too much effort for too little gain. the 1000 watters do the job nicely.

 
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:50 PM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

Yeah i am right there with ya. I rearranged my setup so things look a little clearer in my future pics . I am also making room for my additional 150 hps air cooled sun hood. So I will have a nice span of light for flowering. For a space of 4x4 I will have over 88,000 lumen. Thinking of how I could effectively setup a screen for scrog. But it is always fun to play around. I want to reduce some plants but I flowered 12 girls from the same light sources early this year. And light vs bud production was not an issue. with eight plants I had half pd of dank buds. With all 12 i harvested I had over a pd of weed. Though I used 4 oz for brownies, hash, oil, and butter. I am trying to correct issues I had before. So with my current low bushy bitches I am expecting something better. Anyhoo pics updated soon.


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Old 10-08-2009, 07:32 AM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

Did some rearranging like I said, and here are some pics. I tried to add the mylar sheet best I could with two hands lol. But here we are.... Tomorrow makes 7 weeks to 2 months Vegg. LST, Topping, one Fimmed plant, Crystal and Afgan Mazar. The rest a seeds from my earlier grow. Mostly mixed indicas.

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Old 10-13-2009, 06:23 AM
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Re: New 16,000 lumen fixture

Sup guys just another picture update. Some of my leaves are discoloring. I have laid off feeding ferts for my girls and I havent used any alaskian Fish fertilizer in a while. When I have been feeding its just been ff big grow. But these girls are showing signs of what looks to be zinc, calcium and or magnesium? Any help would be awesome. I have just been feeding water for like a week and a little more now? Thanks, I mean they'll recover I just dont want to lose anymore leaf matter in the process.


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