LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test - Page 5

Hibonus · #61 (**permalink**) 08-28-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bf74

I knew there was a damn good reason for the magic orange diodes-carotenoid development? Uh-huh. I'll swallow that one, when I believe that any one of those 5 band units have an effective coverage of 100 sq ft.No shit man, they have it right on their site.Thinking back on it Cali-I probably would have gotten the same results with a fleabay no-name ufo, and 2 white spots.

Except with Fleabay you don't even know that you're getting 1W diodes.

bf74 · #62 (**permalink**) 08-28-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by talon373

Except with Fleabay you don't even know that you're getting 1W diodes.

LOL-no truer words have been spoken.Dude, you wouldnt believe the variations in output-it's freakin crazy.Greenpine lane is a great site(non mj- that sucks but the data is still applicable) and the dude there spends his own cash on these things and then runs them through his testing.I'll post a link- it's an interesting read for someone interested in the ufo.

bf74 · #63 (**permalink**) 08-28-2009, 11:58 PM

Experiments with Hydroponics, Aeroponics, and LED Grow Lighting

calibuddz · #64 (**permalink**) 08-29-2009, 01:17 AM

in reality he has only purchased the first few of the LEDs for his tests. then companies just started sending him free units. he didnt pay for those TI systems. he also wanted to test a LumiGrow but they wont send out a free unit. if you are a researcher, shouldnt you be buying everything out of pocket? he did produce some great results with the tiny tims, but so did the 250w LumiGrow. i tasted them, they were goood.

bf74 · #65 (**permalink**) 08-29-2009, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by calibuddz

in reality he has only purchased the first few of the LEDs for his tests. then companies just started sending him free units. he didnt pay for those TI systems. he also wanted to test a LumiGrow but they wont send out a free unit. if you are a researcher, shouldnt you be buying everything out of pocket? he did produce some great results with the tiny tims, but so did the 250w LumiGrow. i tasted them, they were goood.

Shit man, how'd you like a deal like that?Good for him, he's definitely earned it.Did you see the TI systems knock offs on fleabay?Advetised as "professional led growlight".You really have to do your homework if you wanna play this game.Who knows what they threw in those things.The TRY band is my favorite-probably a mis-spell on the China factory label.

calibuddz · #66 (**permalink**) 08-30-2009, 03:20 AM

i dialed the blue down one more notch, so from 6 to 5. they are really starting to stretch now. i started with the unit 25" away from the canopy. some people told me to lower it. i was planning on lowering it down to 18", but i never did. here is where they are at now. 18" from canopy. these girls are 16" tall.

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calibuddz · #67 (**permalink**) 08-31-2009, 03:40 AM

i relocated the LumiGrow and the bed, then put up the light barrier. the flower cycle will start tomorrow. i also brought the blue knob back up to full power.

HPS side

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LED side

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bf74 · #68 (**permalink**) 08-31-2009, 03:48 AM

did you turn up the blue to stop the stretch?Looks great man

calibuddz · #69 (**permalink**) 08-31-2009, 04:16 AM

yup. they stretched pretty good during the 3 days i was messing around with the knobs.

bf74 · #70 (**permalink**) 08-31-2009, 04:31 AM

I love that extra bit of control-shaping your plants with the slight turn of the knob.There could be so many applications for this.Do you feel that your unit could be held higher over the canopy because of the intensity from the 5w diodes-cause those gals look nice and thick, and bushy-

calibuddz · #71 (**permalink**) 08-31-2009, 04:59 AM

yes.........exactly. i have been having lots of people saying to bring it real close, but i like to have a good blend of colors and cover the entire canopy. the 5w diodes really do the trick.

bennyweed · #72 (**permalink**) 08-31-2009, 05:17 AM

Do you know the brand of LEDs the lumigrow uses? I know they are american made but It doesnt specify the exact brand. Also do you know the viewing angle of the 5w diodes?

The whole light is 13lbs so is the casing made out of aluminum and are the fans quiet like those of a PC case fan?

Over all, your honest opinion so far. Do you think the light is the equvalent to a 600w HPS/HID? One more thing, could you run this light in a small enclosed are (4.5x4.5x7) withoth ventilation and not have to worry about heat? I ask because I want to enrich with Co2 and dont like the thought of fans exchanging the air.

I really like your operation and you unbiased opinion. If your test proves the light to be better or as good as an HID you can promise I will purchase one because I am tired of the inefficiency of HIDS. Not only that you need some my sub system to support HIDs I.E. fans, a/c units/ ducting/ huge power supplies. Let me know, thanks alot!

bf74 · #73 (**permalink**) 08-31-2009, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by calibuddz

yes.........exactly. i have been having lots of people saying to bring it real close, but i like to have a good blend of colors and cover the entire canopy. the 5w diodes really do the trick.

I knew it man, I just dont see how you can get all the light to the plants at like 6-12" from the canopy, but with 1 watt diodes you really need to get them close-I never felt right about that.So I went with 3 ufos-1 on top, 2 on either side at a 60 degree angle.I'm just pulling this out of my ass, but it just seems logical that when you're dealing with 5X the power of the ufo-that close shit no longer really applies-a 1w diode is bright as hell, but a 5w diode must be impossible to look at directly without doing some damage.

calibuddz · #74 (**permalink**) 08-31-2009, 06:30 PM

LumiGrow updated their website. here is the press release on their site.

LumiGrow, Inc. Introduces LumiGrow ES™ Enhanced Spectrum LED Lighting for Urban- and Greenhouse-Based Agriculture
Growers Report Reduced Power Usage and Improved Crop Quality

Indoor Gardening Expo, San Francisco, CA – July 25, 2009 – LumiGrow, Inc., the leading provider of LED lighting to the indoor agricultural industry, today announced the release of the LumiGrow ES™, a first-of-its-kind enhanced spectrum horticultural lighting solution proven to produce significant energy savings and abundant, healthy crops.

The LumiGrow ES features professional grade features throughout. Encased in hardware designed to meet the rigors of commercial greenhouse applications, LumiGrow ES LED emitters cast a precise spectral range within 400-700 nanometers. The LumiGrow system also features true deep red LEDs that match peak photosynthesis along with double the PAR value of any previous solid-state horticultural light. Independently adjustable red and blue knobs enable growers to fine-tune lighting, providing plants with precisely the portion of the light spectrum they need at each growing phase.
Customers including Chris Wahlberg of Mung Dynasty, a Pittsburgh, PA-based microgreens producer, report that LumiGrow lights deliver superior plant morphology, color and taste.

“The LumiGrow ES grows great plants by any standard,” affirmed Robert Starnes, senior superintendent of agriculture, University of California, Davis. Mr. Starnes conducts product quality assurance testing, including side-by-side comparisons of the LumiGrow solution against high-intensity discharge (HID) lamps, both at the LumiGrow facility on Treasure Island, San Francisco and at the UC Davis campus. In these tests, the LumiGrow solution consistently out-performs 600-watt HID lamps while consuming half the energy.

To accelerate broad adoption of energy-efficient LED solutions by commercial greenhouse growers, public utility companies throughout the U.S. now offer cash rebates and subsidies for the LumiGrow ES. Even before rebates are applied, users realize electrical bill savings in the range of 50-60 percent. All LumiGrow LED lights operate at a comfortably cool temperature, enabling customers to achieve still greater savings by unplugging their cooling systems and ballasts. Hardware and operating cost savings grow over time as long-lasting LumiGrow lights eliminate the need for frequent bulb replacement.

“It was essential to demonstrably prove the capabilities of the LumiGrow ES before bringing it to market,” said Kevin Wells, founder and CEO, LumiGrow. “That’s because growers want greater energy efficiency and lower costs, but not at the risk of crop loss. LumiGrow delivers on the claims of LED technology – maximizing cost savings and crop yield.”

Beyond energy savings, the LumiGrow ES offers numerous additional environmental benefits. Unlike fluorescent and HID lighting products, LumiGrow LED lights do not contain hazardous mercury or halogen gases. Further, because the LumiGrow ES emits a controlled and focused spectrum rather than a broad scattershot of light, the solution dramatically reduces the light pollution caused by the use of HID lamps during nighttime hours.

About LumiGrow, Inc.
LumiGrow, Inc. is the leading provider of energy-efficient LED lighting technology to the indoor agricultural industry. Proven in third-party studies to out-perform 600-watt HID lamps while using half the energy, the LumiGrow solution boosts crop yield and reduces operational costs. Each LumiGrow light that replaces an HID lamp saves 2,000 kilowatt hours of power and eliminates 2,680 pounds of carbon emissions annually. eadquartered on Treasure Island in the San Francisco Bay, LumiGrow is privately wned and operated. For more information, call (800) 514-0487 or visit LumiGrow.com.

calibuddz · #75 (**permalink**) 08-31-2009, 06:45 PM

the LumiGrow uses 5 Watt Philips Luxeon™ LEDs – the highest flux LED available.
the viewing angle of the diodes is 120 degrees.

so far i do think that this unit is just as good as a 600w. flower is the real test, and it starts today.

the fans are a little noisier than a cpu fan. think a cpu fan on full blast. heat isnt a big concern with this unit. the Smartlamp produces alot of heat compared to the LumiGrow. you should see the heatsinks they use for this bad boy.

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#63 (permalink) 08-28-2009, 11:58 PM
bf74 Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 987	Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test Experiments with Hydroponics, Aeroponics, and LED Grow Lighting

#64 (permalink) 08-29-2009, 01:17 AM
calibuddz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cannafornia, USA Posts: 208	Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test in reality he has only purchased the first few of the LEDs for his tests. then companies just started sending him free units. he didnt pay for those TI systems. he also wanted to test a LumiGrow but they wont send out a free unit. if you are a researcher, shouldnt you be buying everything out of pocket? he did produce some great results with the tiny tims, but so did the 250w LumiGrow. i tasted them, they were goood.

#66 (permalink) 08-30-2009, 03:20 AM
calibuddz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cannafornia, USA Posts: 208	Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test i dialed the blue down one more notch, so from 6 to 5. they are really starting to stretch now. i started with the unit 25" away from the canopy. some people told me to lower it. i was planning on lowering it down to 18", but i never did. here is where they are at now. 18" from canopy. these girls are 16" tall. _ _ _ _ _

#67 (permalink) 08-31-2009, 03:40 AM
calibuddz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cannafornia, USA Posts: 208	Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test i relocated the LumiGrow and the bed, then put up the light barrier. the flower cycle will start tomorrow. i also brought the blue knob back up to full power. HPS side _ LED side _ _

#68 (permalink) 08-31-2009, 03:48 AM
bf74 Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 987	Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test did you turn up the blue to stop the stretch?Looks great man

#69 (permalink) 08-31-2009, 04:16 AM
calibuddz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cannafornia, USA Posts: 208	Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test yup. they stretched pretty good during the 3 days i was messing around with the knobs.

#70 (permalink) 08-31-2009, 04:31 AM
bf74 Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 987	Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test I love that extra bit of control-shaping your plants with the slight turn of the knob.There could be so many applications for this.Do you feel that your unit could be held higher over the canopy because of the intensity from the 5w diodes-cause those gals look nice and thick, and bushy-

#71 (permalink) 08-31-2009, 04:59 AM
calibuddz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cannafornia, USA Posts: 208	Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test yes.........exactly. i have been having lots of people saying to bring it real close, but i like to have a good blend of colors and cover the entire canopy. the 5w diodes really do the trick.

#72 (permalink) 08-31-2009, 05:17 AM
bennyweed Soon to be Botanist Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cloud 9 Posts: 252	Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test Do you know the brand of LEDs the lumigrow uses? I know they are american made but It doesnt specify the exact brand. Also do you know the viewing angle of the 5w diodes? The whole light is 13lbs so is the casing made out of aluminum and are the fans quiet like those of a PC case fan? Over all, your honest opinion so far. Do you think the light is the equvalent to a 600w HPS/HID? One more thing, could you run this light in a small enclosed are (4.5x4.5x7) withoth ventilation and not have to worry about heat? I ask because I want to enrich with Co2 and dont like the thought of fans exchanging the air. I really like your operation and you unbiased opinion. If your test proves the light to be better or as good as an HID you can promise I will purchase one because I am tired of the inefficiency of HIDS. Not only that you need some my sub system to support HIDs I.E. fans, a/c units/ ducting/ huge power supplies. Let me know, thanks alot! __________________ 2009 INDOOR SATIVA VS. INDICA FACE OFF http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-gr...ath-match.html 2009 OUT DOOR GROW, LOTS OF STRAINS http://forum.grasscity.com/outdoor-g...t-my-bush.html Last edited by bennyweed; 08-31-2009 at 05:20 AM.

#74 (permalink) 08-31-2009, 06:30 PM
calibuddz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cannafornia, USA Posts: 208	Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test LumiGrow updated their website. here is the press release on their site. LumiGrow, Inc. Introduces LumiGrow ES™ Enhanced Spectrum LED Lighting for Urban- and Greenhouse-Based Agriculture Growers Report Reduced Power Usage and Improved Crop Quality Indoor Gardening Expo, San Francisco, CA – July 25, 2009 – LumiGrow, Inc., the leading provider of LED lighting to the indoor agricultural industry, today announced the release of the LumiGrow ES™, a first-of-its-kind enhanced spectrum horticultural lighting solution proven to produce significant energy savings and abundant, healthy crops. The LumiGrow ES features professional grade features throughout. Encased in hardware designed to meet the rigors of commercial greenhouse applications, LumiGrow ES LED emitters cast a precise spectral range within 400-700 nanometers. The LumiGrow system also features true deep red LEDs that match peak photosynthesis along with double the PAR value of any previous solid-state horticultural light. Independently adjustable red and blue knobs enable growers to fine-tune lighting, providing plants with precisely the portion of the light spectrum they need at each growing phase. Customers including Chris Wahlberg of Mung Dynasty, a Pittsburgh, PA-based microgreens producer, report that LumiGrow lights deliver superior plant morphology, color and taste. “The LumiGrow ES grows great plants by any standard,” affirmed Robert Starnes, senior superintendent of agriculture, University of California, Davis. Mr. Starnes conducts product quality assurance testing, including side-by-side comparisons of the LumiGrow solution against high-intensity discharge (HID) lamps, both at the LumiGrow facility on Treasure Island, San Francisco and at the UC Davis campus. In these tests, the LumiGrow solution consistently out-performs 600-watt HID lamps while consuming half the energy. To accelerate broad adoption of energy-efficient LED solutions by commercial greenhouse growers, public utility companies throughout the U.S. now offer cash rebates and subsidies for the LumiGrow ES. Even before rebates are applied, users realize electrical bill savings in the range of 50-60 percent. All LumiGrow LED lights operate at a comfortably cool temperature, enabling customers to achieve still greater savings by unplugging their cooling systems and ballasts. Hardware and operating cost savings grow over time as long-lasting LumiGrow lights eliminate the need for frequent bulb replacement. “It was essential to demonstrably prove the capabilities of the LumiGrow ES before bringing it to market,” said Kevin Wells, founder and CEO, LumiGrow. “That’s because growers want greater energy efficiency and lower costs, but not at the risk of crop loss. LumiGrow delivers on the claims of LED technology – maximizing cost savings and crop yield.” Beyond energy savings, the LumiGrow ES offers numerous additional environmental benefits. Unlike fluorescent and HID lighting products, LumiGrow LED lights do not contain hazardous mercury or halogen gases. Further, because the LumiGrow ES emits a controlled and focused spectrum rather than a broad scattershot of light, the solution dramatically reduces the light pollution caused by the use of HID lamps during nighttime hours. About LumiGrow, Inc. LumiGrow, Inc. is the leading provider of energy-efficient LED lighting technology to the indoor agricultural industry. Proven in third-party studies to out-perform 600-watt HID lamps while using half the energy, the LumiGrow solution boosts crop yield and reduces operational costs. Each LumiGrow light that replaces an HID lamp saves 2,000 kilowatt hours of power and eliminates 2,680 pounds of carbon emissions annually. eadquartered on Treasure Island in the San Francisco Bay, LumiGrow is privately wned and operated. For more information, call (800) 514-0487 or visit LumiGrow.com.

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#75 (permalink) 08-31-2009, 06:45 PM
calibuddz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cannafornia, USA Posts: 208	Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test the LumiGrow uses 5 Watt Philips Luxeon™ LEDs – the highest flux LED available. the viewing angle of the diodes is 120 degrees. so far i do think that this unit is just as good as a 600w. flower is the real test, and it starts today. the fans are a little noisier than a cpu fan. think a cpu fan on full blast. heat isnt a big concern with this unit. the Smartlamp produces alot of heat compared to the LumiGrow. you should see the heatsinks they use for this bad boy.