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Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test

Is there an hps in that room as well?
 
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Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test

yes. there are 2-1000w HPS in the room. once flower is induced i will have a light barrier up so that no HPS light interferes with the test. my LED tests are all about flower.
 
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should have tested and shown just with LED alone. I would like those results
 
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yes. there are 2-1000w HPS in the room. once flower is induced i will have a light barrier up so that no HPS light interferes with the test. my LED tests are all about flower.
these Lumigro units are enhanced with a very specific band of white diodes right-I just find this interesting because the best results in flower I've seen personally have come with the addition of white leds.This includes an old prosource ufo grow (really my best).But that lumigrow just looks so solidly built, like it was made to last-and that tells me something.You and Hydro have got me turned around on this led thing-my tantrums regarding the led industry as a whole have ceased-and I'm ready to get into this again.Sorry if I was being a fag about the whole thing in my thread bro-hope you dont hold it against me. You're a cool,funny dude Cali-and I cant wait to see your gals flowering under those monster lights.peace
 
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i just received the specs from LumiGrow on the ES model.

Features:
• 330 Watts using 58 American-made super-flux LEDs
• True 660nm Deep Red LEDs for enhanced photosynthesis
• Uses 50% less power than the equivalent 600 Watt HPS light
• Individually adjustable Red and Blue balance knobs allow precise 2-channel spectrum control for your specific plant type
• New enhanced spectrum output covering the full PAR range (photosynthetically active radiation, 400 to 700nm)
• Recommended coverage area: 12-16 square feet
• Runs warm to the touch
• Five-year warranty
• Our own constant current PowerDrive™ LED controllers efficiently drive the industry’s most powerful LED
• Easy On/Off switch, electrical protection, thermal shut-off, fused input voltage, and detachable power cord
• Made in California, USA

Technical Specifications:
•Operating Voltage 120 VAC / 240VAC(5A max/2.5A max)
•Operating Frequency 50Hz-60Hz
•Typical Power Consumption 330 Watts
•Weight 13 lbs
•Dimensions 13”W x 17”L x 7“H
•Operating Temperature –20º C to 60º C (–4º F to140º F)
Holy shit- after this I realized that they actually give you a realistic coverage area- thats another big up for Lumigrow And the fact that we're keeping the money in the US is another big point.I'm predicting that this grow, done by an unbiased, non company rep type will be at the forefront of this current surge in led useage.We need more of these guys-and Cali-I saw the first(I'm guessing) recorded run with I think the older Lumigrow model-you can just see that the buds turned out beautifully-I dont need a scale to tell me that.Round, obviously dense nugs.What can I say? I just backed the wrong horse- but I'm back on the trail now.
 
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thats awesome BF. i think you are a great guy also. i also think that these reps and salesmen should stop posting and sit on the sidelines. let the real growers test and let the public know which lights are the best for their investments. enough of the sales spews. hehehe. back to the real world. i will be updating soon. i have been tweaking with the adjustment knobs and have found that fine tuning to your specific needs is fucking bad ass. i will explain when i update.
 
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thats awesome BF. i think you are a great guy also. i also think that these reps and salesmen should stop posting and sit on the sidelines. let the real growers test and let the public know which lights are the best for their investments. enough of the sales spews. hehehe. back to the real world. i will be updating soon. i have been tweaking with the adjustment knobs and have found that fine tuning to your specific needs is fucking bad ass. i will explain when i update.

Cali what they need to do is, find a REAL grower, who knows what they are doing and run tests. try this, then try that, then this then that. You know what I mean. Not just give an LED panel and say here do what you do... Hellllo YOU MAKE THE panel!!!! You should know best what blend you need, waht this what that. But do they???? NOPE!! why becuz they are buying the materials and tryn to save money and get customers to do all there work. What BIG ORGANIZATION OR COMPANY, That loves there custiomers and will do anything to keep them??? NOT 1... Case closed lol
 
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thats awesome BF. i think you are a great guy also. i also think that these reps and salesmen should stop posting and sit on the sidelines. let the real growers test and let the public know which lights are the best for their investments. enough of the sales spews. hehehe. back to the real world. i will be updating soon. i have been tweaking with the adjustment knobs and have found that fine tuning to your specific needs is fucking bad ass. i will explain when i update.
And thats what sells me Cali, you do your thang-your way.And I've seen the best fully documented results coming from your efforts.You see, one thing I'm not sold on yet, is the hyped efficiency of the 1 watt diode-not to be smug, but I've always listened to my gut-for good or ill.And my gut tells me that higher wattage diodes are the key-and it seems thats what your paying for with the lumigrow(can you tell the obsession has returned?) Higher wattage diodes= greater intensity, I cant back that up-but logic tells me there has to be some meat to that conclusion.And the varied spectrum choices? Brilliant-I just like the idea of having the option to experiment with different wavelengths.So, an HID equivalent light source, that runs cool, with a tuneable spectrum.Who wouldnt be interested in that?
 
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Re: LumiGrow ES 330w LED Test

ive been messing around with the knobs trying to fine tune the spectrum a bit. with both knobs up full blast, i was noticing that the tops were just hiding under the leaves and not really emerging. i decided to turn down the blue knob halfway for a couple of days. with the blue cranked up it was really stacking the sites and kept things at the same height, but i wanted more growth from the tips before i start to flower them. i noticed a huge improvement the very next day. the tips were standing tall amongst the foliage. here are some pics.

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I think thats a really under-discussed point.How by tweeking the out-put you can minipulate-almost at will- the structure of the plant.I immediately noticed differences in my plants development- if you look back in my journal, before it became an ad campaign, I was always adding/subtracting various 1 watt floods-just to see how they reacted.
 
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and I believe the reason that cfls boost your standard-r/b, and yes-red blue orange(3 band 5 band-whatever) is the neglected white diodes in the currently popular ufo design. Some feel that the cfl's add intensity, I dont agree-1watt white 4500k/3000k floods did the same thing as the addition to cfl in my grow.I've personally never attached the word intensity to cfl's.
 
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also plants dont use orange. the orange idea got started because manufacturers ordered their bins in bulk. some of the diodes in the "red" bins would contain various mixtures of red, red/orange. since they didnt want to go through their bins by hand and discard the diodes that werent pure red, they just had the machines slap them on there. Voila! Tri-Band technology. what a crock.
 
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also plants dont use orange. the orange idea got started because manufacturers ordered their bins in bulk. some of the diodes in the "red" bins would contain various mixtures of red, red/orange. since they didnt want to go through their bins by hand and discard the diodes that werent pure red, they just had the machines slap them on there. Voila! Tri-Band technology. what a crock.
I knew there was a damn good reason for the magic orange diodes-carotenoid development? Uh-huh. I'll swallow that one, when I believe that any one of those 5 band units have an effective coverage of 100 sq ft.No shit man, they have it right on their site.Thinking back on it Cali-I probably would have gotten the same results with a fleabay no-name ufo, and 2 white spots.
 
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I think their research went as far as associating the word carotenoid with carrott.And since they're orange...

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and those are some damn sturdy plants man
 
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