Essential Plant Nutrients

[Kallas]

Originally Posted by Vitamin 420

I don't know man, it depends on how your plants are responding. You can only quantify half the process of growing, the other half you have to just feel out. If Budzilla works on your plants and they respond well to it, then keep it coming, but otherwise just experiment.

Relative to your question, I think that Budzilla has too much nitrogen and not enough phosphorus. Maybe a little too much potassium too, because the ratio between P and K is 1:6 and that's not good for the absorption of P. But then again, I'm just crunching numbers and not eating your nutrients, so listen to your plants if their opinions are different than mine

hey thanks for the help man. i picked up a bottle of this stuff yesterday http://sog.open24x7.biz/catalog/prod...8d3e39732f36a6
it is N-P-K 1.9.1

the guy at the shop could tell what i was growing and i asked him what would be the best for the flowering stage and he pointed me towards that stuff.
gave my plant the first lot of it yesterday.........im guessing that is the rite stuff for my plant at the moment with low levels of nitrogen and high phospherus?

[Vitamin 420]

That bat guano looks pretty good, a 1-9-1 ratio isn't bad. Hope your plants end up liking it I'll take a look at the grow journal, be sure to post some pics up in a few weeks!

[Mr.thunderfuck]

Good info so what can I do if my leads are curling up but don't have burns and are the leafs suppose to be dark green kind of like blue it's an indica

[Kallas]

Originally Posted by Vitamin 420

That bat guano looks pretty good, a 1-9-1 ratio isn't bad. Hope your plants end up liking it I'll take a look at the grow journal, be sure to post some pics up in a few weeks!

since i feed it to the plant on saturday iv noticed GREAT results......no more leaves dying and buds are really taking off.
Also noticed how bad tap water is for plants and either buy water or catch rain water.

Tap water = lots of dead leaves ppl dont do it!

i update my journal weekly dude il deff update u when iv harvested let u know how it did

thanks for the help again man i give u +rep everytime it will let me

[gillgamesh64]

Thanks for the info ... my father runs a small hobby farm and has an abundance of differant ferts .. and thus i have access to allsorts of stuff haah i will play around in the vege patch with you theory and see how i go .. i beleve my beans could do with a boost of magnesium well fuck ma spelling but you get my point great info!!

[ORcoast]

vitamin420 I know you didnt post this thread as a diagnostic but you really seem to know your shit, can you please give me your ideas as to whats wrong with this plant, its a g13 labs thai super skunk that has been in 12/12 trying to sex. I have never had one yellow like this, there are 4 others two of them have a yellow leaf or two but this is the worst.. thanks in advance for your help.

[Vitamin 420]

Originally Posted by ORcoast

vitamin420 I know you didnt post this thread as a diagnostic but you really seem to know your shit, can you please give me your ideas as to whats wrong with this plant, its a g13 labs thai super skunk that has been in 12/12 trying to sex. I have never had one yellow like this, there are 4 others two of them have a yellow leaf or two but this is the worst.. thanks in advance for your help.

No problem man, we're all here to help each other out from the looks of it, you haven't been in 12/12 for too long huh. Do you ever trim your leaves? It may just be that those old leaves are starting to die, since they don't photosynthesize at the rate of younger leaves...

My only other guess would be to check your nutrients twice. See where the chlorosis is coming from, it could be from an imbalance of a couple different nutrients. Read that first part under "common deficiency symptoms" and it should help you

[ORcoast]

ok will do, do you think I may have been overwatering? and the weird thing is they have been in 12/12 for 14 days and still not showing sex, I want to veg. them till they are about 3 feet but still no sex

[Vitamin 420]

Originally Posted by ORcoast

ok will do, do you think I may have been overwatering? and the weird thing is they have been in 12/12 for 14 days and still not showing sex, I want to veg. them till they are about 3 feet but still no sex

Poke your finger about 3 inches in the soil. If it's damp at that level, there's no need to water... however if it is dry the a little watering wouldn't hurt Remember, it's always safer to water less, but more frequently, rather than watering a lot at once.

How long did you keep them in veg for?

[ORcoast]

I only vegged for about 3 weeks along with 6 other plants that have all shown sex, these thai skunks just dont want to show me. how do you sex your plants vitamin 420

[Vitamin 420]

Originally Posted by ORcoast

I only vegged for about 3 weeks along with 6 other plants that have all shown sex, these thai skunks just dont want to show me. how do you sex your plants vitamin 420

The flowering period might just be really long on those plants, or since you only vegged for 3 weeks they might still wanna be growing. Sativas like to get tall and lanky keep them under 12/12 and make sure they're looking good, and be patient. They'll eventually show.

[greenguy13]

hey man, I'm looking to get some nutrients and I know quality products are the best, but i'm not looking to break the bank. I only have a 10 gallon reservoir, so I don't need massive amounts of nutrients. Any suggested brands i should look into?

thanks

[Vitamin 420]

Originally Posted by greenguy13

hey man, I'm looking to get some nutrients and I know quality products are the best, but i'm not looking to break the bank. I only have a 10 gallon reservoir, so I don't need massive amounts of nutrients. Any suggested brands i should look into?

thanks

Nope, nothing off the top of my head, sorry man. Shop around for whatever you feel is the best choice for your plants... if you want to save some cash and not spend a whole lot, then look at some organic products. There's an endless amount of choices. Good luck!

[$lick-Nick]

Yo Vitamin!
Thnx 4 the nice post and info!!! Clear explenation... Rep+ also
But I have a question for you. Don't mind my english, I am a Dutch speaker...
What about CO2 as a nutrient? Growers always seem to forget this one. In tapwater (at least down here) it is filtered out bcuz deamed harmfull.
I have an aquarium full of plants and in the aquarium CO2 is THE most important nutrient. Of course, the plants need the rest too, but slowly die off with lack of CO2. People without it have to buy new plants as replacements on a regular basis.
Carbon is a basic buildingstone for our babies and plants in general. Over 50% of their substance is made out of it and they get it out of CO2 in order to make fructose (plantsugar), which is ofcourse beneficial for us... Also, it enables you to control the PH in your tank naturally without any additives which have the same effect as acid rain.
CO2 is absorbed by the leaves, everybody knows that. But naturally, water contains a certain level of it... So the roots must absorb louds too...
Can anybody tell me more about this subject? i use water from the same aquarium to water my babies. In my opinion I have better results then my friends who use the same equipment and batch of seeds, due to CO2 addition. Faster and stronger growth, bigger and harder buds.

Grtz $lick

[Vitamin 420]

Originally Posted by $lick-Nick

Yo Vitamin!
Thnx 4 the nice post and info!!! Clear explenation... Rep+ also
But I have a question for you. Don't mind my english, I am a Dutch speaker...
What about CO2 as a nutrient? Growers always seem to forget this one. In tapwater (at least down here) it is filtered out bcuz deamed harmfull.
I have an aquarium full of plants and in the aquarium CO2 is THE most important nutrient. Of course, the plants need the rest too, but slowly die off with lack of CO2. People without it have to buy new plants as replacements on a regular basis.
Carbon is a basic buildingstone for our babies and plants in general. Over 50% of their substance is made out of it and they get it out of CO2 in order to make fructose (plantsugar), which is ofcourse beneficial for us... Also, it enables you to control the PH in your tank naturally without any additives which have the same effect as acid rain.
CO2 is absorbed by the leaves, everybody knows that. But naturally, water contains a certain level of it... So the roots must absorb louds too...
Can anybody tell me more about this subject? i use water from the same aquarium to water my babies. In my opinion I have better results then my friends who use the same equipment and batch of seeds, due to CO2 addition. Faster and stronger growth, bigger and harder buds.

Grtz $lick

Hmm, I should probably add something about CO2. Thanks for that suggestion

Anyways, relative to your question, I think carbon dioxide addition is a great idea, especially during the flowering phase. A lot of people overlook it, but it can be a pretty easy DIY, all you need is some yeast, water, and sugar.

But I don't know about dissolving CO2 into the roots... roots respire, so they need oxygen not CO2; furthermore, CO2 is absorbed through the stomata on the leaves of the plant, so I don't see how dissolved CO2 helps in growth, but I guess if it helps you get bigger yields I can't argue with that....