Electricity usage, wiring, saftey, and YOU!

[13ronin]

lol. That's got to be the most confusing fucked up bill I've ever seen! My bills are pretty straight forward.

From what I can tell, it just a bunch of charges per KWh. Basically, you used 428 Kwh. Now they based a bunch of bullshit on that 428 Kwh. So,

47.70/428= 11.2 cents per Kwh. Just take your total amount due and divide by your KwH usage to get through the bullshit plus plus charges and you get your total. So you can figure 11.2 cents per Kwh.

BTW. Welcome to the city!

[DemmerSlave]

Thanks for the quick answer.

I thought the math would work out that way but I was unsure due to all the BS listed. You seem to be the man with all the answers when it comes to electricity in the grow room. I would just like to add that there are 2 charges on my bill that are not rated per KWH. They are the System access charge and the Delivery surcharge. The System access never changes so I assume I can deduct this from the calculation but the delivery surcharge does change but there is no rate to go by so I will keep that in the equation. This makes my rate calculated at $41.70/428 which is 10.26 cents per KWH. I think thats right.

I live in a mobile home park and all my electricity comes from a large plug on a panel outside my back door. My bill says 1000W at the top. I have a full size fridge, washer and dryer in my place. Do I have the same amount of electricity coming to my place as people living in houses that are hard wired into the grid and not "plugged in"? I want to run at least a combo 600W HPS and MH setup with some T5 for clone and veg.

[greaterthings]

You use what you use. Your meter just isn't connected to your house. It is probably connected to where your feeders come from. ... So I guess to answer your question... yes, somebody in a house would use the same electricity you would use with those lights.

[Jimbosmokes]

ive done calculations for the setup that i think ill need and it should add about $30 to $50 each month, or about .7 kwh. is this enough to raise any eyebrows or should i be below the radar?
thanks

[greaterthings]

Originally Posted by Jimbosmokes

ive done calculations for the setup that i think ill need and it should add about $30 to $50 each month, or about .7 kwh. is this enough to raise any eyebrows or should i be below the radar?
thanks

Yes, with only $30 to $50 of useage per month, I'd think you'll be fine. BUT, being as though you quoted your useage at .7 kWH... I would check my math again. 1 kWH means 1,000 watts in an hour. I think somewhere along the line, you've miss calculated. .7 kWh's would only cost less then 10 cents.

[Jimbosmokes]

equipment using .7 Kw
at $.12 per kwh thats .7 * .12 = $.084 per hour
multiplied by 18 Hrs for 31 days: $.084 * 18 * 31 = $46.87
is this not right?

[¿Кактебязовут?]

Originally Posted by Jimbosmokes

equipment using .7 Kw
at $.12 per kwh thats .7 * .12 = $.084 per hour
multiplied by 18 Hrs for 31 days: $.084 * 18 * 31 = $46.87
is this not right?

Your doing it right, I think he thought you meant .7kw would be the energy usage for the entire month. It's only when your electric bill is $100-200 and up more a month then usual, and stays that way that they pay any mind. I assume you are flowering in the same room? If not don't forget to add the amount used for flowering.

[greaterthings]

Originally Posted by Jimbosmokes

equipment using .7 Kw
at $.12 per kwh thats .7 * .12 = $.084 per hour
multiplied by 18 Hrs for 31 days: $.084 * 18 * 31 = $46.87
is this not right?

Jimbo,

you got it right. perfect. Are you using 12 cents as a base number because that is what people tell you to figure?... or is that actually what it costs?

You'd be surprised how much electric billing fluctuates per where you live in the country. Here in the Washington State I only pay 3.4 cents a kWH. It's nice. I have heard of people on the East Coast paying 25 cents per kWH.

Look at your bill. It will tell your the exact rate.

[bakedchef]

Hey Ronin I got another question for you, Is there an adapter I can buy to utilize this plug or do I have to do some rewiring to get it to run my lights and fans? It was for an electric range so I would think that it should be perfect to run my power through, also would there be any sort of advantage to using this outlet as opposed to the regular outlets I have (besides the extra outlets which are always good!

Thanks for any help

Peace

[petedav]

ok im useing 4 25w spiral cfls and a 20 w fan all thease on 4 18 hours a day how mutch will it all use electricity wise on a weekly basis thanks, coz my girlfriend recons we using a lot more electric i just dont know?

[13ronin]

Originally Posted by bakedchef

Hey Ronin I got another question for you, Is there an adapter I can buy to utilize this plug or do I have to do some rewiring to get it to run my lights and fans? It was for an electric range so I would think that it should be perfect to run my power through, also would there be any sort of advantage to using this outlet as opposed to the regular outlets I have (besides the extra outlets which are always good!

Thanks for any help

Peace

Ehhh... I don't think there are any adapters for that. There might be, but that's a 220 volt plug for shit like washers/dryers and welders. lol. Yes. Electric arc welders set for 220 use that kind of plug. There might be an adapter that can convert it from 220 to 110, but I've never seen one (which means nothing). If I were you I'd try to find a 110 outlet somewhere. However, you can't run power from that line. Anything you do will have to 220v rated and would end up frying a regular outles or regular wiring.

Originally Posted by petedav

ok im useing 4 25w spiral cfls and a 20 w fan all thease on 4 18 hours a day how mutch will it all use electricity wise on a weekly basis thanks, coz my girlfriend recons we using a lot more electric i just dont know?

You'll have to look at you bill and see what you get charged per Kwh. Then just do the math and you're set! But it doesn't look like you using much... a touch over 2 Kw per day. lol. you might be paying as little as 30 or 40 cents a day to run that!

[olliem3]

I have a new indoor setup and am a little confused as to the power usage. I have a 400w MH light and two 6" fans. On the side of the light it says 120v and it looks like 43 amps, but this doesn't seem right. Also, the paperwork the fans came with say that on high-speed one fan uses 0.19 amps and 12 watts, but the side of the fan says 0.25 amps. Not sure which number to use.

Here is a link to the light, if it helps:

Sunleaves :: Sunleaves Pulsar Two-Way Mini

Thanks

[bakedchef]

Originally Posted by 13ronin

Ehhh... I don't think there are any adapters for that. There might be, but that's a 220 volt plug for shit like washers/dryers and welders. lol. Yes. Electric arc welders set for 220 use that kind of plug. There might be an adapter that can convert it from 220 to 110, but I've never seen one (which means nothing). If I were you I'd try to find a 110 outlet somewhere. However, you can't run power from that line. Anything you do will have to 220v rated and would end up frying a regular outlets or regular wiring.

I was talking to a friend of mine and he said something along the lines of I can split the outlet and get 2 110 sockets allowing me to run 4 outlets instead of just 2. Is that possible or far to complicated and dangerous for a noob electrician? Plus I rent so I don't wanna mess with too much shit, I have already removed and capped a fluorescent fixture from my ceiling.

Thanks again for the help

Peace

[13ronin]

Originally Posted by olliem3

I have a new indoor setup and am a little confused as to the power usage. I have a 400w MH light and two 6" fans. On the side of the light it says 120v and it looks like 43 amps, but this doesn't seem right. Also, the paperwork the fans came with say that on high-speed one fan uses 0.19 amps and 12 watts, but the side of the fan says 0.25 amps. Not sure which number to use.

Here is a link to the light, if it helps:

Sunleaves :: Sunleaves Pulsar Two-Way Mini

Thanks

Think I'm as confused as you are on that one...

Originally Posted by bakedchef

I was talking to a friend of mine and he said something along the lines of I can split the outlet and get 2 110 sockets allowing me to run 4 outlets instead of just 2. Is that possible or far to complicated and dangerous for a noob electrician? Plus I rent so I don't wanna mess with too much shit, I have already removed and capped a fluorescent fixture from my ceiling.

Thanks again for the help

Peace

No. Anything you split off of a 220v line will be 220v. Just like if you run another outlet from another one you don't end up with 55v, you still have 110v.

[greaterthings]

Originally Posted by 13ronin

Think I'm as confused as you are on that one...



No. Anything you split off of a 220v line will be 220v. Just like if you run another outlet from another one you don't end up with 55v, you still have 110v.

I think if you took one of your hot lines on that plug and your neutral, you could acheive 110V. I AM NOT SURE THOUGH. (As long as you arenot on a 3-phase system)

My first question is WHY would you want to be this unsafe? Figure something else out before you go tampering around like a tweaker. Last thing you would want to do is burn your place down.

Alot of things electrically work... not all of these things are electrically smart.

One way to figure this out for sure is to get a voltmeter out and set it properly on AC measurements and test two of your lines. One hot and your neutral. What ever it says is right. Please be safe and please do not endorse what I am saying is fact.