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Old 02-13-2009, 04:28 PM
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Can I use blacklight to grow plants?

Just kidding, I know I can't. I have a different question though: What is that box for that comes with HPS lights? The one the cable runs to.
Why can't I just put the HPS light into a socket and put a reflector above it?

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Re: Can I use blacklight to grow plants?

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Just kidding, I know I can't. I have a different question though: What is that box for that comes with HPS lights? The one the cable runs to.
Why can't I just put the HPS light into a socket and put a reflector above it?

Thanks
The big box is ccalled a ballast. it's a special transformer that produces the high voltage required to run the lamp. the light WON'T work without it. cheapest way to save money on a grow light is to buy the bulb and ballast cheap from 1000bulbs.com and buy a cheap reflector. try searching for
"econowing" it's like 50 bucks.
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:55 PM
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Re: Can I use blacklight to grow plants?

How comes when I type ballast into google, something else shows up though? Like this add on craigslist:
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/mat/1010231937.html
Are those ballasts too?
 
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Old 02-13-2009, 04:58 PM
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Re: Can I use blacklight to grow plants?

Also, if I were to buy this
http://columbia.craigslist.org/mat/1001190816.html

and the bulb, what else would I need?
 
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Re: Can I use blacklight to grow plants?

Those are MH lights.

You need a MH ballast for MH bulbs
HPS ballast for HPS bulbs
you can buy a cheap conversion kit that allows you to use MH bulbs in HPS ballast.


Anyway, you cant screw it in the socket like other bulbs because it needs a special "starting" process and a special power feed. Sort of like a power supply box.

You know the CFL bulbs? the white plastic base is actually a ballast. You open it and it contains an electric circuit board etc. Just so you know, aside from incandescent, all bulbs night a form of ballast.

HPS = Good for flowering, but can do vegetative too
MH = Good for vegetative, not good for flowering.

So if you only buy one, buy HPS

400W would be the minimum power for it to be worth using vs CFL.
 
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Old 02-13-2009, 05:30 PM
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Re: Can I use blacklight to grow plants?

Thank you guys for those quick answers. I gave both of you rep points for that.

Gumdispenser, did you take a look at the link with the ballasts? Would they work? What else would I need if I had those ballasts shown on the link and a bulb?

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Re: Can I use blacklight to grow plants?

yeah those are fluorescent light ballasts. T8 fluorescent to be exact.

The other link is for MH lighting, you need HPS if you're just going to buy ONE type of bulb (better to have both, but very expensive)

As I said, many different bulbs need ballasts and they all have their own kind of ballasts. So dont just google for ballast

Google for hps ballast.

Then eBay for HPS ballast ;-)

should be no less than 50$ for the ballast + another 20$ for the bulb
 
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Re: Can I use blacklight to grow plants?

Alright now what if I wanted to go with MH lights, what else would I need to get if I got these ballasts here:
http://columbia.craigslist.org/mat/1001190816.html


Also, I found another offer on craigslist. Does this look like an integrated ballast to you? How would I hook up something like that?
http://columbia.craigslist.org/bfs/1029674137.html

Thanks for your help man
 
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Re: Can I use blacklight to grow plants?

im surprised the 400watt are 15$, make sure it works when you buy it. The bulbs arent even that cheap.

As for the second link, it does look intergrated, but it's rated as 277v, dont know if it plugs in the wall or not.
 
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Re: Can I use blacklight to grow plants?

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Those are MH lights.

You need a MH ballast for MH bulbs
HPS ballast for HPS bulbs
you can buy a cheap conversion kit that allows you to use MH bulbs in HPS ballast.


Anyway, you cant screw it in the socket like other bulbs because it needs a special "starting" process and a special power feed. Sort of like a power supply box.

You know the CFL bulbs? the white plastic base is actually a ballast. You open it and it contains an electric circuit board etc. Just so you know, aside from incandescent, all bulbs night a form of ballast.

HPS = Good for flowering, but can do vegetative too
MH = Good for vegetative, not good for flowering.

So if you only buy one, buy HPS

400W would be the minimum power for it to be worth using vs CFL.
I'd say 250W HPS is about where it takes off... You really know your stuff about lighting... Have you read the lighting thread in my signature?

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