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Greenfrog · #1 (**permalink**) 01-21-2009, 07:02 PM

After rip off of sep 07 I had to shut down. My outside grows got too obvious and when we got ripped the old lady freaked. After buying our stashes for the past year and a half, the wife said okay to a small indoor.
I have 1000 watt switchable MH/HPS with 6" ducted in room painted white. I planted 16 seeds, 10 were female. I got the seeds by breeding a male celtic to female celtic and whatever strange seeds I had laying around. I wouldn't keep a seed unless it came from something really good. For example, I bought an eighth of Blueberry from the local legal store and one seed popped out of the bud. I planted it. The problem is, other than the celtics and one clone S-15, I don't remember what plant came from which seeds.
One of the celtics has a real bud growing out the center of a fan leaf. Too much Bud-Blood?
Plants are in 3 gal dirt, Foxfarms Ocean and Happy Frog mix.
Nutes are Advanced Nutrients A-B Bloom, CarbLoad, Mother Earth Tea, Cal-Mag, Big Bud. PH down to control PH balance

shlongfingers · #2 (**permalink**) 01-21-2009, 07:09 PM

That shit is frosty as fuck where did you get that celtic from OMFG

Greenfrog · #3 (**permalink**) 01-21-2009, 07:14 PM

I got the celtic seeds trading with a dude in Australia. I sent him some hazes and purples. Plants are 4 to 5 weeks from harvest. I switched to 12 hour cycle Dec 15.
Greenfrog

Greenfrog · #4 (**permalink**) 01-26-2009, 06:40 AM

Here is a pic of one of the fan leaves with a bud growing out of the center. There are several like that. Has anyone seen this before? Other plants seem normal enough.

Greenfrog · #5 (**permalink**) 01-26-2009, 10:36 PM

Here is a close up of the fan bud. Anyone ever seen this?

ganjaMan42o · #6 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 12:22 AM

Omg those buds look so frosty n good like u dipped them in a sugar bowl or sumin! Nice grow dude, i want to have plants like those one day. For the bud growing out of the fan leaf is crazy, i want to see a pic of the bud from the fan leaf when harvest comes please?

TexarkanaTim · #7 (**permalink**) 01-27-2009, 06:48 AM

Those are beautiful plants dude. I'm envious.

basementhydro · #8 (**permalink**) 02-07-2009, 06:39 PM

Dude, you're a lucky, lucky man.

That's a very rare gene/mutation that appears in a few strains that to the best of my knowledge originated from the Chinese land race strains. Those fan leaf buds can actually fill the whole leaf all the way to the tips, turning almost the entire plant into solid buds!

Robert Conell Clark mentions it in "Marijuana Botany".

Sometimes you just get a little tuft at the center like in your pictures and it doesn't grow past that, but sometimes it engulf the whole leaf. It seems that overall plant health plays a role in how far it goes.

You simply must clone this plant, and/or try to get some seeds. This is perhaps the rarest variation of MJ I've heard of. I've never actually seen one.

polish_pothead · #9 (**permalink**) 02-07-2009, 06:55 PM

Hell ya, nature at it's best. Great plants.

Greenfrog · #10 (**permalink**) 02-08-2009, 09:20 AM

I think its too late to try and seed the plants. At this point is it worthwhile to trim the buds off the plants and try to re-veg them? I still have about 75 seeds left to try growing another batch. I have three plants that are showing that trait. I trimmed another bud off one of the plants and the trimmed leaves, not the fan leaves, are extremely potent. Anyway, can I re-veg the best plant after harvest? I would like to then clone that one.

basementhydro · #11 (**permalink**) 02-12-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenfrog

I think its too late to try and seed the plants. At this point is it worthwhile to trim the buds off the plants and try to re-veg them? I still have about 75 seeds left to try growing another batch. I have three plants that are showing that trait. I trimmed another bud off one of the plants and the trimmed leaves, not the fan leaves, are extremely potent. Anyway, can I re-veg the best plant after harvest? I would like to then clone that one.

I'd say to find a minor branch somewhere and try to clone that. Maybe take one from each plant. Re-veg the clones, clone the clones something like 10x, and then keep one as a mother and put the rest into flower. This way you can see if the trait will persist (could be a mutation or a genetic trait). You can definitely pop more seeds while you do all that.

I just strongly recommend cloning because this trait is allegedly very, very rare and if you can start a good mother that will clone true on this... man, that'd be freakin' awesome for the MJ community.

Those other seeds might actually be hiding an even stronger expression of this quirk, so definitely check them when you can. Just don't lose the ones you have.

Greenfrog · #12 (**permalink**) 02-15-2009, 09:29 PM

I will definately try and clone the plants with that trait. There were three plants with fan buds. Today is eight weeks from light cycle switch. I trimmed some lower fan leaves that were yellowing. I think they need another week. I will try to take some pics tonight and post tomorrow.
Greenfrog

Greenfrog · #13 (**permalink**) 02-17-2009, 05:41 AM

Here are some pics.

Greenfrog · #14 (**permalink**) 02-18-2009, 07:37 AM

I just ordered a portable microscope to check the trichomes. With so many different strains I dont think they will all finish at the same time. I would like to ask about revegging? Should I repot the mother plant after I harvest the best buds?
Greenfrog

chunkdaddyo · #15 (**permalink**) 02-18-2009, 03:03 PM

Oldgrayhair has a pretty good thread on re-vegging.....I'd definitely try to re-veg that dank ass shit!!! Re-Vegging the OGH way = Foolproof

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#2 (permalink) 01-21-2009, 07:09 PM
shlongfingers Hugh Morris Lee Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: On Top Of The World Posts: 149	Re: I'm back That shit is frosty as fuck where did you get that celtic from OMFG __________________ Split it, Fill it, Twist it! Its an Art Any posts made by me are purely fictional and by no means is anything I say to be taken seriously. I do not grow or condone the growing of anything not legal. Any and all pictures I post are pictures widely available on the internet and any discussions Im involved in are purely hypothetical or are commentary in nature and should not constitute advice or be considered advice to assist in activities that are deemed illegal!

#3 (permalink) 01-21-2009, 07:14 PM
Greenfrog Gold member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 128	Re: I'm back I got the celtic seeds trading with a dude in Australia. I sent him some hazes and purples. Plants are 4 to 5 weeks from harvest. I switched to 12 hour cycle Dec 15. Greenfrog

#6 (permalink) 01-27-2009, 12:22 AM
ganjaMan42o The Dark Side of the Moon Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 95	Re: I'm back Omg those buds look so frosty n good like u dipped them in a sugar bowl or sumin! Nice grow dude, i want to have plants like those one day. For the bud growing out of the fan leaf is crazy, i want to see a pic of the bud from the fan leaf when harvest comes please?

#7 (permalink) 01-27-2009, 06:48 AM
TexarkanaTim Outlaw by Choice Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: FarNorCal Posts: 1,795	Re: I'm back Those are beautiful plants dude. I'm envious.

#8 (permalink) 02-07-2009, 06:39 PM
basementhydro Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 152	Re: I'm back Dude, you're a lucky, lucky man. That's a very rare gene/mutation that appears in a few strains that to the best of my knowledge originated from the Chinese land race strains. Those fan leaf buds can actually fill the whole leaf all the way to the tips, turning almost the entire plant into solid buds! Robert Conell Clark mentions it in "Marijuana Botany". Sometimes you just get a little tuft at the center like in your pictures and it doesn't grow past that, but sometimes it engulf the whole leaf. It seems that overall plant health plays a role in how far it goes. You simply must clone this plant, and/or try to get some seeds. This is perhaps the rarest variation of MJ I've heard of. I've never actually seen one.

#9 (permalink) 02-07-2009, 06:55 PM
polish_pothead Polish Grow Star Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 147	Re: I'm back Hell ya, nature at it's best. Great plants. __________________ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Side effects: hungry, happy, sleepy. There is a chemical in weed that's called Fu#$-it! My Romp19 Grow: http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...ghlight=romp19 CREATE TABLE 420.THESHIZNICK As SELECT STRAIN, sum(THC_IND) As THC_AVERAGE_Indicator FROM STRAIN_MAIN WHERE THC_IND => 28 AND HIGH_LEVEL => 8 AND PEDAGOGIC_IND = 'Y' GROUP By STRAIN;

#10 (permalink) 02-08-2009, 09:20 AM
Greenfrog Gold member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 128	Re: I'm back I think its too late to try and seed the plants. At this point is it worthwhile to trim the buds off the plants and try to re-veg them? I still have about 75 seeds left to try growing another batch. I have three plants that are showing that trait. I trimmed another bud off one of the plants and the trimmed leaves, not the fan leaves, are extremely potent. Anyway, can I re-veg the best plant after harvest? I would like to then clone that one.

#12 (permalink) 02-15-2009, 09:29 PM
Greenfrog Gold member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 128	Re: I'm back I will definately try and clone the plants with that trait. There were three plants with fan buds. Today is eight weeks from light cycle switch. I trimmed some lower fan leaves that were yellowing. I think they need another week. I will try to take some pics tonight and post tomorrow. Greenfrog

#14 (permalink) 02-18-2009, 07:37 AM
Greenfrog Gold member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 128	Re: I'm back I just ordered a portable microscope to check the trichomes. With so many different strains I dont think they will all finish at the same time. I would like to ask about revegging? Should I repot the mother plant after I harvest the best buds? Greenfrog

#15 (permalink) 02-18-2009, 03:03 PM
chunkdaddyo Middle Age Medicine Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,752	Re: I'm back Oldgrayhair has a pretty good thread on re-vegging.....I'd definitely try to re-veg that dank ass shit!!! Re-Vegging the OGH way = Foolproof

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