General Questions about Grow closet

[Planted]

yes this was my 1st grow and now that ive learned more i can honestly say wassloppily done.
was running 240v
5200 square feet
2 oz per plant about
i do have some pics on an old phone that i will dig up post some pics next time

[Planted]

i honestly didnt weigh the herb once dried , only when i just harvested , so i honestly dont know the dry weight because back then i didnt realize there was a difference

[Zonyc]

Originally Posted by ricard0

??????? Really ???????



Couldn't the same benefit be had without the cigarette? Maybe more so?



Personally (since i'm no botanist), neither can i. But i can at least point to a source for information on the subject, speculation not included. ---> http://www.stemnet.nf.ca/d6vsatf2000/s6/p3/
First google result for "cigarette smoke and plants"



Does it now?



I'd like to know ---> If you've always smoked in your grow room, how do you know it doesn't affect them?

I'd at least try one grow with the same gear & strain to know for sure whether or not it was posing a risk or having a negative affect. - All that gunk on your gear can't be fun.

I'm really not bashing you here, if it seems that way, just trying to clarify.

Of course the same effect can be achieved without cigarettes; more so, however? NO. As you know, when you smoke, you are inhaling, and exhaling considerably more than you would normally. This amounts in an increased CO2 concentration in the air, combined with the combustion of the tobacco or whatever you're smoking, this equates to much more CO2 being released than normal respiration.

Did you read the link you posted? You do realize that the specimen is a spinach plant... right? Ok, I wont bother with this one, but i'll supply you with an equally arbitrary study. Here is the observation from their experiment.

The test concluded that highly toxic levels of carbon monoxide were reduced to non-toxic levels in 24 hours by one spider plant (Chlorophytum comosum). Therefore, more than 96% of the carbon monoxide was removed.

Feel free to take a look at the link; it was a test conducted by NASA http://www.flowers.org.uk/plants/hea...on-removal.htm

The study you linked to is conducted by students who didn't even bother to conduct the test with any controls, there was also no conclusion, nor any information based on observation. I'm sure they didn't have any access to air quality meters, either. Nice try though.

Originally Posted by ricard0

Has anyone here ever washed a wall or window of a smokers place? It is not pretty. Think -> Cleaning oil or grease off your hands, it ain't easy.

Over time all that tar in the smoke will accumulate on just about everything, including your plants. Clogging and choking them to some degree. Not to mention the Carbon Monoxide. And yes, i'm a smoker....... i just go outside to smoke. Then my place doesn't smell like an ashtray either.

I'm no Oncologist, but if smoking kills people, what do you think it will do to the plants?

The Stomata on the leaves are kinda like lungs and actually breathe for the plant. They don't work so well when clogged, kinda like humans. Why would you force your babies to cope with any unnecessary stress? Are you that uninspired to grow?

Ever been to a breeders room or a greenhouse for that matter? I doubt they smoke in there.

Of course, you've got the choice to affect your plants any way you see fit. I prefer to treat them with great care.

I'm not saying "you won't be able to grow and smoke in your room".

I am saying "Do you think your plants want to smoke"? Just my $.02

I really, really appreciate you coming into this thread and spewing your brilliantly composed, yet utterly nonsense scientific knowledge. Your knowledge has no scientific basis and is really just hearsay. Now in my original post, I spared the scientific and technical details of why I didnt thing smoke harmed plants, but let me lay it out for you.

Cleaning oil and grease from your hands is COMPLETELY different than cleaning tar from a wall. Let me explain this to you. Intra-molecular forces are attractive forces that hold particles together with ionic, covalent, and metallic bonds. Inter-molecular forces are attractive forces among or between particles, called dispersion forces, dipole-dipole forces, and hydrogen bonds.

Hydrogen bonds are the strongest bonds, and dispersion bonds are the WEAKEST. Take water for example the molecular formula is H20. This means that you have two oxygen atoms surrounding the hydrogen atom with a double bond. This means that water sticks to it's self, or is very COHESIVE. Oil on the other hand, is ADHESIVE meaning that it does not stick to it's self; oil is non-polar, and thus the forces that hold it together are dispersion forces - the weakest. This is why oil sticks to it's self. Your comparison of removing oil or grease from your hands and removing tar from a wall is like comparing a giraffe to a tennis ball. Now, I'm sure you have experience with mixing oil and water together, right? You know that they don't mix. I'm sure that you're aware that the plant uses transpiration for various functions. Again, you have the oil and water effect occurring on the leaves, thus removing any build up.

The stomata on a plant is nothing like lungs. Yes they may be analogous, but thats where the similarities end. The stomata is covered by guard cells called parenchyma which regulate the opening and closing. Thats right, guard cells! what a concept, a cell that guards the stomata! Who woulda thunk it? Additionally, cannabis is a dicot, which contain more parenchyma and stomata on the lower part of the epidermis, rather than upper. So now this exhaled smoke enters your grow room, is then heated by the ambient air and rises to the top of the room, where it is then removed. I'll let you do the math.

I'm really not bashing you here, if it seems that way, just trying to clarify.

To the OP, smoking around your plants is fine.

[Planted]

Thank you soooo much Zonyc for straightening me out on the smoke thing .
Your scientific knowledge is phenomenal and after reading your post 3 times (because it was so interesting)i did learn alot.
I was confused on this topic because i was getting mixed answers and ricardo led me to believe that smoke would pretty much screw my grow over if it got into the grow room.
I will still do my best to limit the smoke entering my grow room.
I am new to this Micro Grow? situation in my closets (4 plants in flowering closet and up to 8 in my vegging closet)(always good to have some extra plants to clone/experiment/just incase something goes wrong.
As for previous grows that i do have pictures and will post asap,more specificaly for the warehouse grow i spoke of (my 1st growing mj experience)
#1 i did not solely fund this operation
#2 i did NOT know what i was doing
#3 i did have help from sources over seas (i live in NY)
#4 i was 21 yrs old and had cash and went in with two older guys that claimed they knew what to do and was told w/e i cash i put in id get triple the cash back from it.
So i was i obviuosly taken advantage of because the dudes garage we stored the harvest in was suposedly seized by the police and then the 2 guys i did this with magically disapeared.
So i lost all my money , only thing i got was about 18 pounds of WW which i smoke with my brother and cousin in about 6 months.
That was great tho lol
Anyways thanks again Zonyc for the big help.
And to the rest of you..

Happy Indian Rituals

[ricard0]

Originally Posted by Zonyc

Of course the same effect can be achieved without cigarettes; more so, however? NO. As you know, when you smoke, you are inhaling, and exhaling considerably more than you would normally.
I'm really not bashing you here, if it seems that way, just trying to clarify.

To the OP, smoking around your plants is fine.

Well then. I won't argue with the captain biology here. I will however reiterate my belief that smoking is not good for your plants. A simple test with a control would be an easy tell-all (which i'm sure has been done by many). perhaps yourself. Care to share your results?

Here's a more reputable source supporting my belief that cigarette smoke is bad for plants, and yes, this time i read it. LOL. ---> http://cahe.nmsu.edu/ces/yard/2001/020301.html
^^it's the second question down^^. So it seems some rather astute individuals share my opinions. Maybe they just need to have it laid out for them as well.

The link you posted, albeit quite interesting, is no more relevant than mine in relation to the topic. The spider plant is no more a part of the group dicotyledons than spinach, and even less of an equal candidate for comparison due to it's particularly robust nature and being "very tolerant to neglect". Not to mention those studies are 20 years old, So.........

As for my comparison of cleaning oil from your hands being similar to cleaning tar from walls, both are rather difficult and thus the criteria for comparison. I never said that the processes shared the same molecular roadmap, or abatement regimen. That's reading quite a ways further into the issue than most of us laymen are concerned with. But no less appreciated. And if you thought that was over my head, well just take a look at the wind burn on the OPs' dome. LOL.

As for the study i linked, i did state that it was the first google result for "cigarette smoke and plants", hinting that it's not hard to find studies on it.
Also, i figured i'd at least make an attempt at pointing to a source. Something i thought was missing from all of the opinions drifting about.

You may attack my source. You may point out my inaccuracies. But you may not question my intentions. However coarse my post/s may have been, they were all pretty benign and quite a bit less invasive than some of the other advice wafting through this thread.

I realize that plants of just about any variety will scrub carbon monoxide (and many other gaseous pollutants) from the air, but that's not the question. The question is "is it better for the plants than not"? Plus, what do you suppose happens to all the particulate matter mixed in with the smoke? Just more happy gas? Lol.

I also realize that dicots, in most cases, have more stomata on the under epidermis than they do on the top, but that's still not proof that smoking is good for your plants, nor does it negate/disprove the theory that it will stick on both sides. My ceiling has plenty of tar on it. The floor, not so much. Go figure.

If Stomata are used for gas exchange and lungs are used for gas exchange, how is that not a valid comparison?

I apologize for suggesting such unreasonable solutions as removing your smoking activities from your grow. Your sound reasoning combined with your superior knowledge of all things great and small surely proves that smoking cigarettes with your plants is good for them. Just kidding, c'mon now.

Maybe you should start a thread about the benefits of tobacco smoke in your garden. What has the horticultural community been waiting for? Let's get with the times. Another joke, if that's OK.

I applaud your literary whip (it stings), as well as your, apparently, extensive botanical & biological intellect, but i doubt either has much affect on the OP smoking in his grow room.

Really, it's OK if you want to smoke in your garden..... honest. But you won't catch me doing it till a reputable author suggests it.

I wonder if Shantibaba would mind if came over to smoke up his grow? LMAO. Maybe we could both go to double the effect and help the poor guy out already. Put a few packs in a leaf blower and lookout super healthy plants. If you say so. Lol.

I respectfully agree that if an intelligence quotient was measured in "fish in the bucket", you'd be bringing home more than i. I humbly bow to your fishing prowess. But my advice was based on good 'ol common sense, and again, considerably less invasive than yours. IMO.

Maybe you thought my original post was somehow "calling you out" due to my quoting you, but quite the opposite is true. You felt wounded, i get that. Retaliation, successful however... unnecessary. I was hoping for more participation as far as specificity and impartial sources were concerned. Which kinda happened. Thanx. Your 1st post was just so vague i had to call you on it for my own need to know. Again, sorry. Now that you've had a chance to exercise your excess wisdom, you're welcome, and thanx for stopping in.

BTW, can i just assume the answer to the question i asked you in post #15 is "no". I actually would like to know. Believe it or not.

+rep for being a know-it-all. Take it easy bro.

[gac]

[gac= generated advanced carbon: THINK PUFFHEAD??? CO2 GOOD FOR PLANT!!:GAC=GETTING ADUQUIT CIRCULALATION]

Originally Posted by Planted

Thx for the tip, I guess what i rly am asking is if im fucked ecause im using closet in my bedroom(which i smoke weed and cigs in) to grow or is there a solution .
anyways how bad is a little smoke for plants , just wondering

[ricard0]

Originally Posted by Planted

Thank you soooo much Zonyc for straightening me out on the smoke thing .
Your scientific knowledge is phenomenal and after reading your post 3 times (because it was so interesting)i did learn alot.

I don't doubt that at all.

I was confused on this topic because i was getting mixed answers and ricardo led me to believe that smoke would pretty much screw my grow over if it got into the grow room.

Misled huh? I guess that's gratitude for ya.

So in post #24 it was all

thank much for your help dude , i was about to not do anything about the smoke.
ive never grown in such a confined space and havent ever worried about smoke so im a little confused but im pretty sure if i air tight the door of the closet and intake air from inside the walls and exhaust it pretty much any where outside the closet i should be ok.
im also gonna put my air purifier in the closet , it cant hurt. ( i think).

But now that you've been called on your experience it's all

ricardo led me to believe that smoke would pretty much screw my grow over if it got into the grow room.

Decisions, decisions. Fickle much?

What happened to us, we had whitty banter and everything?
This is me pretending to cry.

I will still do my best to limit the smoke entering my grow room.
I am new to this Micro Grow?

What, after all the proof that smoking benefits your plants. Are you sure that's wise? But seriously, i commend you for heeding at least some sensical advice.

situation in my closets (4 plants in flowering closet and up to 8 in my vegging closet)(always good to have some extra plants to clone/experiment/just incase something goes wrong.

Are you going to start a journal?

As for previous grows that i do have pictures and will post asap,more specificaly for the warehouse grow i spoke of

Can't wait.

(my 1st growing mj experience)
#1 i did not solely fund this operation
#2 i did NOT know what i was doing
#3 i did have help from sources over seas (i live in NY)
#4 i was 21 yrs old and had cash and went in with two older guys that claimed they knew what to do and was told w/e i cash i put in id get triple the cash back from it.
So i was i obviuosly taken advantage of because the dudes garage we stored the harvest in was suposedly seized by the police and then the 2 guys i did this with magically disapeared.
So i lost all my money , only thing i got was about 18 pounds of WW which i smoke with my brother and cousin in about 6 months.
That was great tho lol
Anyways thanks again Zonyc for the big help.
And to the rest of you..

Happy Indian Rituals

Ok, i'll give you the benefit of the doubt here. But i must point out a couple things.

1. You say you had 1,000 female plants harvested
2. You say you had 5,200 sq. ft.
3. You say you got 2 ounces (wet) per plant
4. You say you got 400 ounces total
5. You say you got 2 ounces a plant

In case you weren't aware, the questions were designed to check your facts.

1,000 plants and 5,200 sq. ft. = 5.2 sq. ft. per plant - OK and you only got 2 ounces wet off each one? With all that space and the mini-froest you described?

But wait, that's like 2,000 ounces which is only 125 lbs...... I thought it was 400 lbs. total. Which is it? Maybe you just don't remember 'cause of smoking all the good WW you grew.

We all here at the city are pretty forgiving, so don't be afraid to tell the truth. We can all help each other more effectively when honesty supercedes ego. IMHO.

[ricard0]

Originally Posted by gac

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[gac= generic automated comments: LOL

I love this guy. Every post is the acronym gac with reassigned definitions.
+rep you clever little devil.

[Planted]

lol ricard0, no harm ment in any way and i am gratuitous of ur help. You sound like a smart guy so when u say things like 'tar,uninspired,ozone generator' i get worried lol.
And remember im not smoking in the actual grow room itself . Its a bedroom , in the bedroom in a closet, in the close is the grow area, so im not blowing smoke clouds all over them and of course ill be sure to air out the bedroom thuroly when i do smoke.
i am just worried about residual smoke being a problem. the closet will be ventilated (constant air movement) as well as the air being purified in the closet.I dont know how this can compare to the stagnant smoke that hangs in the middle of the room marinating the walls with tar when the window is closed , i wont let this happen obviously, im not retarted just not as scientificaly inclined as some but that also doesnt meen that i dont understand what u or zonyc are talking about.
As for the warehouse grow, i realize i may have exagerated a little on the weight but honestly i never got to weigh everything, just weight wat i brought to my home.it looked like 2-3 oz per plant but i guess and imiss judged the weight of it that i felt while loading into chevy. iether way it was something ill probably never see again.

[myguitariscool]

Science aside, think about your plants feelings. What would you think if you were sitting in your house minding your own business, when all of a sudden you smell burning human? Probably freak you out a bit, no? Joking aside though, I can see absolutely zero benefit in smoking around the plants... whether it hurts them or not is not a call I can make. Think about it guys, what chemical compounds are in the smoke you exhale? Pretty terrible stuff! And as posters above me have stated, plants ARE air scrubbers. They basically filter out anything in the air! If you are surrounding them with cyanides and nicotines and numerous other poisons, THEY ARE ABSORBING THIS! Why would you want to purposely introduce POISON to your plants?? Judging by planteds previous posts, I gotta say these plants are already gonna live a tough, hard life. No need to further stress them with poison...

[Zonyc]

Originally Posted by ricard0

Well then. I won't argue with the captain biology here. I will however reiterate my belief that smoking is not good for your plants. A simple test with a control would be an easy tell-all (which i'm sure has been done by many). perhaps yourself. Care to share your results?

Here's a more reputable source supporting my belief that cigarette smoke is bad for plants, and yes, this time i read it. LOL. ---> http://cahe.nmsu.edu/ces/yard/2001/020301.html
^^it's the second question down^^. So it seems some rather astute individuals share my opinions. Maybe they just need to have it laid out for them as well.

The link you posted, albeit quite interesting, is no more relevant than mine in relation to the topic. The spider plant is no more a part of the group dicotyledons than spinach, and even less of an equal candidate for comparison due to it's particularly robust nature and being "very tolerant to neglect". Not to mention those studies are 20 years old, So.........

As for my comparison of cleaning oil from your hands being similar to cleaning tar from walls, both are rather difficult and thus the criteria for comparison. I never said that the processes shared the same molecular roadmap, or abatement regimen. That's reading quite a ways further into the issue than most of us laymen are concerned with. But no less appreciated. And if you thought that was over my head, well just take a look at the wind burn on the OPs' dome. LOL.

As for the study i linked, i did state that it was the first google result for "cigarette smoke and plants", hinting that it's not hard to find studies on it.
Also, i figured i'd at least make an attempt at pointing to a source. Something i thought was missing from all of the opinions drifting about.

You may attack my source. You may point out my inaccuracies. But you may not question my intentions. However coarse my post/s may have been, they were all pretty benign and quite a bit less invasive than some of the other advice wafting through this thread.

I realize that plants of just about any variety will scrub carbon monoxide (and many other gaseous pollutants) from the air, but that's not the question. The question is "is it better for the plants than not"? Plus, what do you suppose happens to all the particulate matter mixed in with the smoke? Just more happy gas? Lol.

I also realize that dicots, in most cases, have more stomata on the under epidermis than they do on the top, but that's still not proof that smoking is good for your plants, nor does it negate/disprove the theory that it will stick on both sides. My ceiling has plenty of tar on it. The floor, not so much. Go figure.

If Stomata are used for gas exchange and lungs are used for gas exchange, how is that not a valid comparison?

I apologize for suggesting such unreasonable solutions as removing your smoking activities from your grow. Your sound reasoning combined with your superior knowledge of all things great and small surely proves that smoking cigarettes with your plants is good for them. Just kidding, c'mon now.

Maybe you should start a thread about the benefits of tobacco smoke in your garden. What has the horticultural community been waiting for? Let's get with the times. Another joke, if that's OK.

I applaud your literary whip (it stings), as well as your, apparently, extensive botanical & biological intellect, but i doubt either has much affect on the OP smoking in his grow room.

Really, it's OK if you want to smoke in your garden..... honest. But you won't catch me doing it till a reputable author suggests it.

I wonder if Shantibaba would mind if came over to smoke up his grow? LMAO. Maybe we could both go to double the effect and help the poor guy out already. Put a few packs in a leaf blower and lookout super healthy plants. If you say so. Lol.

I respectfully agree that if an intelligence quotient was measured in "fish in the bucket", you'd be bringing home more than i. I humbly bow to your fishing prowess. But my advice was based on good 'ol common sense, and again, considerably less invasive than yours. IMO.

Maybe you thought my original post was somehow "calling you out" due to my quoting you, but quite the opposite is true. You felt wounded, i get that. Retaliation, successful however... unnecessary. I was hoping for more participation as far as specificity and impartial sources were concerned. Which kinda happened. Thanx. Your 1st post was just so vague i had to call you on it for my own need to know. Again, sorry. Now that you've had a chance to exercise your excess wisdom, you're welcome, and thanx for stopping in.

BTW, can i just assume the answer to the question i asked you in post #15 is "no". I actually would like to know. Believe it or not.

+rep for being a know-it-all. Take it easy bro.

Hi Ricard0, I appreciate your reply written in a neat, concise and mild mannered way. I apologize for my somewhat hostile response, but I admit, I was somewhat miffed at your quoting each line of text to respond to.

In regards to the experiment, a simple experiment would not suffice to provide concrete proof in regard to the efficacy of smoke on a plant. As you know the plant taxa are quite extensive, with over 7,000 plant species being harvested for use. As you know, the effect of a drug on a mammal not in the homo sp genus would not provide the same effect as if it were tested on a specimen within this genus. The same applies to plant, and as you know, due to the illicit nature of cannabis, I do not have access to provide you with the results of such an experiment. I do however, have access to a laboratory with all of the experimental methods available at my disposal. I have an opportunity at the end of this semester to write a research paper on a topic of my choosing. Perhaps the topic will be the effect of exhaled and ambient smoke on a plant in the same group as cannabis (perhaps hops, or hackberry?).

You're right, the link I posted was not anymore relevant than yours, and I stated that in the post I made. I had an opportunity to have a look at the link you provided, however, it is simply a statement made by an individual with no evidence of any experimentation. Common sense would dictate that if you put a plant in a sealed room, and pumped smoke into it 24/7, that some negative would be seen. This, however, is completely different that the discussion we are having. Smoking in a room adjacent to the room in which you are growing, such as the OP is doing would be a completely different scenario. I would be interested to see if you could provide me with a study conducted with proper controls, scientific method with the aforementioned scenario in mind. The argument presented by this person is that photosynthesis can be affected, and stomatal pores can be clogged. Which is it? The stomata are located on the underside of the leaf, and thus have less contact with the smoke. The time line for the study has no bearing on the result, I dont see why you brought that up. It is my understanding that the spider plant, nor carbon monoxide has evolved in any way since the inception and completion of the study.

I have never questioned your intent, just the way it was presented. If you hypothesize that smoke negatively affects plants in the manner we are discussing, then I have absolutely no problem with it what so ever. I am simply presenting to the OP, and your self an alternative view of the issue at hand.

Like I said in the original post, stomata and lungs are analogous, this is opposed to homologous as you have implied.

The question you stated in the quoted post is "is it better for the plants than not"? The question is would smoking harm the plants?. No where did I state that smoking around your plants is better for them. I simply stated that smoking will not harm them. There is quite a difference there.

As far as the particulate matter goes, you slough off many, many times more skin cells on and around your plants than the number of particulates in smoke. Why has nobody seen the effect of this? Is it plausible to surmise that, perhaps there is no effect? What about the particulate matter in the atmosphere, rain with particulate matter falling onto the cannabis plant outdoors? Have you noticed any sort of detrimental effect from this, in your experience?

Going back to your question on post 15 - How would I know that smoking around my plants is not detrimental? Simple, conclusively, I do not. I do, however, know that I have not seen any negative effect on the plants. Perhaps if I were to stop smoking around my plants, this would be more detrimental? Maybe the plants actually ARE benefiting from the increased concentration of CO2? Conclusively, this is very difficult to test, as slight genetic differences in different plants may respond differently. Consider it like topping - some plants benefit greatly, while others do not. I am simply stating, in Layman terms, that I have not seen any detriment.

Your joke, while not serious, gets me thinking. Perhaps in the next few months I will conduct a test in this regard, and post it on this message board. I'm sure that would interest many.

Again, I appreciate another intellectual person to have a lively if not slightly heated debate with on this subject. I do think, however, that in the future if you do wish to reply to this, you should PM me as this is now off topic to what the OP was asking. There is no doubt in my mind, that you are passionate about your garden and want only the best for your babies (who wouldn't)? But if smoking near the plants has no visible detriment, and it is inconvenient to smoke elsewhere, then why not? If, however, you notice that smoking around the plants causes them to lose yield or wither away into nothing, obviously, this would be cause for concern.

[ricard0]

Originally Posted by Zonyc

Again, I appreciate another intellectual person to have a lively if not slightly heated debate with on this subject. I do think, however, that in the future if you do wish to reply to this, you should PM me as this is now off topic to what the OP was asking.

^^You took the text right off of my screen.^^
With respect. Even though the thread title leaves things wide open. I admit to my contentious nature, though i must acknowledge the perception required to misinterpret my posts in this thread as basis for anything other than enlightened discussion, save for the last couple. My bad.

There is no doubt in my mind, that you are passionate about your garden and want only the best for your babies (who wouldn't)? But if smoking near the plants has no visible detriment, and it is inconvenient to smoke elsewhere, then why not? If, however, you notice that smoking around the plants causes them to lose yield or wither away into nothing, obviously, this would be cause for concern.

Well sir, you have demonstrated beyond anyones doubt that you are indeed quite learned. Congrats, and good luck with your project/thesis. I happen to have the fortune of being born to someone who did their masters thesis on Polyploidy using Bluebonnets as the subject. She'd slap me silly if she caught me smoking in her greenhouse. LOL.

To the OP. I apologize for taking part in stinking up your thread with all the tobacco talk. Please give me audience to impart my sincerest apologies and honor me by accepting some superlative rep for being a man and stickin' up for yourself.

[ricard0]

Originally Posted by myguitariscool

Science aside, think about your plants feelings. What would you think if you were sitting in your house minding your own business, when all of a sudden you smell burning human? Probably freak you out a bit, no?

myguitariscool, i nominate you for the unofficial GC comedy ambassador.

Seriously, how did i never read your sig till now. I'm considering charging you for the Depends i'm gonna have to buy to keep reading your posts.

May a warm, gentle parade of beautiful women shower you with the adulation you, so obviously, deserve. Live long and prosper and all that other crap.

[ricard0]

Originally Posted by Planted

lol ricard0, no harm ment in any way and i am gratuitous of ur help. You sound like a smart guy so when u say things like 'tar,uninspired,ozone generator' i get worried lol.
And remember im not smoking in the actual grow room itself . Its a bedroom , in the bedroom in a closet, in the close is the grow area, so im not blowing smoke clouds all over them and of course ill be sure to air out the bedroom thuroly when i do smoke.
i am just worried about residual smoke being a problem. the closet will be ventilated (constant air movement) as well as the air being purified in the closet.I dont know how this can compare to the stagnant smoke that hangs in the middle of the room marinating the walls with tar when the window is closed , i wont let this happen obviously, im not retarted just not as scientificaly inclined as some but that also doesnt meen that i dont understand what u or zonyc are talking about.
As for the warehouse grow, i realize i may have exagerated a little on the weight but honestly i never got to weigh everything, just weight wat i brought to my home.it looked like 2-3 oz per plant but i guess and imiss judged the weight of it that i felt while loading into chevy. iether way it was something ill probably never see again.

Again, sorry for fogging up your thread, i really do commend you for giving smoke abatement the "good 'ol college try".

I may have given you a bit of flack, and even taken a not-so-clever shot or two at you. But that was only after discovering your mysterious mega-grow post and the swiss cheese-like texture of your story. Lol. Now that you've admitted your embellishment, i'll lay off.

I'll make this my last comment on the subject in hopes that others will jump in, hopefully with some actual evidence supporting one theory or the other (ie. Is tobacco smoke more beneficial or less beneficial to your plants). And regardless of the specifics of the thread author's situation, that IS the underlying question to be answered.

here we go -->
The fact that you were concerned enough to post the question about "smoking & plants" is quite telling. That reveals to me that your common sense told you that it would/could be/become an issue. And you didn't even need a degree to figure it out. <-- Rather telling again. Kudos, that's some good 'ol logic talkin'.

Any time you have a question about growing, your gut is usually steering you towards the answer. Sure it's nice to have third-party confirmation before acting, that's why alot of us are here. I'll tell you though, you are the best thing that ever happened to your plants if they're alive, and 99% of the time it's up to you to make the decisions that will affect your grow.

Good luck with everything and watch out for us blades. We've been known to call folks on their BS. But it sounds to me like you've decided to start walking a more righteous path. Peace brother.

Blah blah blah. Scientific bull shit aside. Smoke stains surfaces with tar. Don't smoke in your room.

And you want to take air in from where?? In from the wall? Dude.. thats a sealed area... nevermind. Common sence is over your head.

I am doubting you have ever grown anything more than a twig in your back yard.

Growing weed isn't just about making crappy buds to sell as home gown, its about the nature process of life taking place. Starting from young or seed, and watching them develop and taking care of them... you know what...I don't even know why i posted in this thread... Highly doubt you have a grow in mind anyways.