Organic Growers... I am ready. Show me the way.

[Enuff4All2Share]

I have a couple of nice simple bagseed grows under my belt and the next seeds I sprout are going to live in a non-chemical world. I want to make my own organic feeding regimen consisting of a pre-mix soil additive and some sort of soluable nutrient, like manure/guano tea or something. I'm all ears, so show me what ya' gots!

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[cman86]

some nice organic recipes...

http://www.bcbudonline.com/forums/in...ded&pid=110925

[Headless Hornet]

You are asking politely, but you will likely get better response if you come to the table with some of your own options. Searching, thinking, rethinking, searching again, etc. etc. Thats what I did before I asked my first question.

All ears is good, but solid self-directed research is good too.

Good luck!

[Enuff4All2Share]

I don't feel the need to tread on egshells here...


I don't feel the need to impress, nor do I want to try and show how pro I am. I know what I want and I asked for it. I want to try some pre-mix soil additives (probably a mix of bone and seed meal, lime and kelp meal, although with the sweet leaf, I don't know if I want the lime...) to plant the girls in, and a few different teas to add nutrients later in the grow. This isn't vague. It isn't full of profanity. And I'm not bloody asking how much I can expect to yield (GAWD!). While your info was well intended and polite enough, please save your advice on effective postings for those who are challenged. I asked the question I wanted to ask.

[covertntrovert]

Originally Posted by Enuff4All2Share

I don't feel the need to tread on egshells here...


I don't feel the need to impress, nor do I want to try and show how pro I am. I know what I want and I asked for it. I want to try some pre-mix soil additives (probably a mix of bone and seed meal, lime and kelp meal, although with the sweet leaf, I don't know if I want the lime...) to plant the girls in, and a few different teas to add nutrients later in the grow. This isn't vague. It isn't full of profanity. And I'm not bloody asking how much I can expect to yield (GAWD!). While your info was well intended and polite enough, please save your advice on effective postings for those who are challenged. I asked the question I wanted to ask.

KICK HIS E-ASS!! lol pulling up a chair. i'm doing a small organic grow here soon.

[GotzMahGatt]

I'd use either blood meal or fish emulsion for your nitrogen. Just one or two single doses during the whole life of the plant since they are both so strong and can burn..

I use this stuff called 'Open Sesame' from fox farm which has all the micros and tons of phosphorus and potassium to get your baby producing flowers earlier and longer. Not to mention its totally organic and it dissolves without stirring!

My fave for flowering ntrient has to be the indonesian bat guano. It mixes really well with open sesame (and it kind of looks like blood mixed... METAL!) to dense up your buds and give a great taste. Not to mention it is cheap as hell compared to the open ses.



If you are interested ill throw up my regement... this shit is cheap ($70 for a gallon of fish emulsion, a pound of open sesame, and 11 lbs of guano) and i have done four small grows and my shit isn't even half gone yet... Organic is so the way to go!

[Overflow]

Originally Posted by Enuff4All2Share

I don't feel the need to tread on egshells here...


I don't feel the need to impress, nor do I want to try and show how pro I am. I know what I want and I asked for it. I want to try some pre-mix soil additives (probably a mix of bone and seed meal, lime and kelp meal, although with the sweet leaf, I don't know if I want the lime...) to plant the girls in, and a few different teas to add nutrients later in the grow. This isn't vague. It isn't full of profanity. And I'm not bloody asking how much I can expect to yield (GAWD!). While your info was well intended and polite enough, please save your advice on effective postings for those who are challenged. I asked the question I wanted to ask.

a long way to say 'shutup and answer my q'

[InvisibleSmoke]

Originally Posted by Enuff4All2Share

I don't feel the need to tread on egshells here...


I don't feel the need to impress, nor do I want to try and show how pro I am. I know what I want and I asked for it. I want to try some pre-mix soil additives (probably a mix of bone and seed meal, lime and kelp meal, although with the sweet leaf, I don't know if I want the lime...) to plant the girls in, and a few different teas to add nutrients later in the grow. This isn't vague. It isn't full of profanity. And I'm not bloody asking how much I can expect to yield (GAWD!). While your info was well intended and polite enough, please save your advice on effective postings for those who are challenged. I asked the question I wanted to ask.

It's not that you need to impress, but you do look a little lazy (not challenged) for doing no research...

You'd probably save a ton of time if you just use the damn search button. Who'da thunk that maybe a section on indoor growing might contain a few threads about fertilizing regimens/recipes.

http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...lar-ferts.html

http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...ost-guano.html

Look I found you a few threads to start with.

Plus I would read some of mister postman's grow journals, if just for inspiration.

[Dawg2k7]

lol Im on his side.. so many retards here reply to people posting and say look for your self... isnt the point of all these threads is to ask questions get help share ideas?? I believe so I mean if it was a question like how much can I yeild off this??? yeah thats a pretty dumb questions ... some people now a days!

[joxter]

Originally Posted by Dawg2k7

lol Im on his side.. so many retards here reply to people posting and say look for your self... isnt the point of all these threads is to ask questions get help share ideas?? I believe so I mean if it was a question like how much can I yeild off this??? yeah thats a pretty dumb questions ... some people now a days!

yeah but your missing the big picture pal. your not the first person to try and grow, your not the first person to ask "that" question, your not the first person to try "that". so it has all been covered a million times, so it gets damn annoying answering the same questions over and over again. if you do a simple search you will find a ton of threads covering the same thing you just asked.

and not searching just shows how lazy you are, and that you want everyone else to do the work for you. and because of that, your grow is most likely going to be worthless, because your too lazy to do anything on your own.

where do you think all the info comes from? some big computer? no, it comes from people that have done their own research and have fantastic grows.

so do some of your own research, it will pay off in the end.

[Hashmouf]

Don't worry man I see this a lot, But most of the time its the people who can't give you a solid answer who tell you to search.


Here is a list of my Organic soil ingredients and Organic nutrients I use with great success.

SOIL: 2 bags Organic compost
1 bag peat moss
1/2 bag perlite
1/2 bag vermiculite
1 bag pumice dust
6 cups bat guano
6 cups worm castings
4 cups bone meal
2 cups lime

NUTRIENTS: Fish emulsion 5-1-1
Bat guano 0-5-0
Maxi-crop liquified seaweed
Molasses
Epsom salt



Do research, but never feel afraid to ask a question, I have read many of the older threads and stickies on certain subjects and I realized half of them dont't know what the fuck they are talking about, so some times you must start a new thread or send a pm to get the right answer. Best of luck to you and your grow.

[joxter]

there's no reason to tell him a recipe unless he's going to do research first. because he wont understand why those ingredients are in there and why at those amounts. so if something goes wrong in the grow, he wont know what to do, he wont know whats doing what, and what to change. and all he's ever going to do is ask everybody else what to do. and of course this website wont have all the info you need, but it is called the world wide web for a reason, there are plenty of other sites out there with a shit load more info on them.

the only reason i don't feel comfortable telling people how to grow their plants, is because they wont understand why you do what you do and add what you do, unless they research the facts themselves.

[Hashmouf]

That has some truth, but some people need interaction to learn this why we have teachers, if we were all forced to learn independently most people would fail completely.

I find it more productive to share and attempt to help rather then bitch and moan about a simple question. At least he is making some effort to gain knowledge of growing unlike most of these assholes who grow terribly and think they are pros who know it all.

I agree some research is in order, but the research material would not exist unless someone asked a question in the first place.

[joxter]

Originally Posted by Hashmouf

That has some truth, but some people need interaction to learn this why we have teachers, if we were all forced to learn independently most people would fail completely.

I find it more productive to share and attempt to help rather then bitch and moan about a simple question. At least he is making some effort to gain knowledge of growing unlike most of these assholes who grow terribly and think they are pros who know it all.

I agree some research is in order, but the research material would not exist unless someone asked a question in the first place.

at least were on pretty much the same note.

i admire your help in this catagory, but if he were to try and follow your recipe without an understanding knowledge of what all the functions of each ingredient are, then his grow would be a total disaster.

but with your help and a little of his own research, he could have a great grow.

your right it does take a little bit of both, help from others and doing your own research.

[Headless Hornet]

I really wasn't intending on stirring up so much emotion with my initial response.

I'm certainly not a jaded old-time grower. In reality, I am a very inexperienced first timer. I know very little, but I take pride in the fact that most of what I've learned I've learned quietly through self-directed research.

I greatly appreciate the help I have received, but I only ask after I have looked at several sources (at least 5 different sites), and filtered that found info through my own common sense (what little I have).

I guess I'm too old school, or hardcore, or stoic, or just plain assholish, or whatever. As a new poster, it probably wasn't my place to give my opinion anyway. I didn't intend for it to be so upsetting.

My way is definitely not the only way (thank god). To each his or her own, live and let live etc... lets just relax and get fuckin' stoned anyway!