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Old 01-21-2008, 05:19 PM
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1 female +1 hermie =fem seeds for life???

alright everyone i have a nice lill setup over here, nothing elaborate , just 200W of cfl's for my 2 plants, but none of that really matters, since my question has almost nothing to do with that...

so heres the story, i have 2 plants, one seeming to be primarily indica, and one primarily sativa. now the sativa one seems to be 100% female which makes me quite happy... but the indica seems to be a hermie (not 100% sure tho), it does have "balls" but it also has a few white hairs, and what looks like the start of buds. my question for you all is, if i pollinate the sativa would i obtain fem seeds? and if so, what would be the best method of pollinating without contaminating my closet (grow room). since i only plan to ever have 2 plants at a time this would essentially provide me with fem seeds for a verrrrrrrrrrrrrry long time. also how long before the balls are mature enough to harvest the pollen?
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Old 01-21-2008, 05:29 PM
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1 female +1 hermie =fem seeds for life

Yes. But you run the chance of still getting hermies with "female" seeds.
 
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yeah but its still better than this crappy 50/50 chance that im currently dealing with
 
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yeah, but lets hope the strain is stable. Or it could just be a horrible waste of time. Good luck I hope it goes well!
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what do you mean by stable?
 
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yeah but its still better than this crappy 50/50 chance that im currently dealing with
well its pretty much the same, you still have kind of a 50/50 chance of either hermie or female.

and the stable part, I'm pretty sure, means that you cant just cross any 2 plants and have a good strain come out of it. breeding is a lot more complicated than just taking a random male and random female and crossing it. there are a lot of variables and factors that play a big role.
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50/50 chance female/hermie > 33/33/33 chance female/male/hermie

Yes, you're thinking correctly.
 
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Often times hermies are caused by screwed-up genetics. Femmed seeds are not derived by taking pollen from any ol' hermie and pollinating a female with it -- that could still result in males. The hermies that are used for generating femmed seeds are specially developed plants that are genetically 100% female and don't have screwed-up genetics.
 
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so lets say the female i have is from a feminized seed, would that make it a 100% female? and since i would be crossing it with a hermie, would that produce a feminized seed? and also what was the thing about stability?
ps phatcat i think there is something phishy about your math, im fairly sure its not a 1/3 chance of each, and with non femmed seeds you still have chance of hermie. so im not totally sure
 
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so lets say the female i have is from a feminized seed, would that make it a 100% female? and since i would be crossing it with a hermie, would that produce a feminized seed? and also what was the thing about stability?
ps phatcat i think there is something phishy about your math, im fairly sure its not a 1/3 chance of each, and with non femmed seeds you still have chance of hermie. so im not totally sure
SEARCH, just research it there is tons of information on the net.

and it doesnt matter that the female you have is 100% female, the hermie is the one that has to have the genes of a female. toastybiz already mentioned that.
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50/50 chance female/hermie > 33/33/33 chance female/male/hermie

Yes, you're thinking correctly.
love this misinformation. hermies happen due to a plant's overstress. it's not a 33/33/33 from seed. nope not at all.
 
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Since hermes are brought on more by stress, and there's no chance they will be like that under ideal conditions, can a hermaphrodite be somewhat obtained by genes? I guess what I'm asking is that if he had one hermaphrodite, one female, when the pollen gets released from the hermie, onto the female, the percentage of female to male ratio, since the hermie DID have more female genes(ie. stigmas) but there is still no chance of hermaphrodite under ideal conditions(NO STRESS!!!!)??
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I'd really like an answer to this, does anyone know? I see the views, man.
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Hermies are not always brought on by stress, that's the point. Sometimes it is screwed up at the genetic level.

Look at it this way -- if all you had to do is stress the hell out of a female to make it a hermie that would generate guaranteed feminized pollen, then don't you think you'd see tutorials all over the place about how to grow a hermie? There aren't such tutorials because in most cases hermies are bad (for growers and smokers). Getting a plant to hermie to produce feminized pollen is a bit trickier than that.
 
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you cant just stress a plant and itlll turn hermie
and thats the stupidest thing ive heard
also just because your hermie pollinized ur fems doesnt mean feminized seeds
 
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