Few Questions on 1000W HPS.

[wunschshrek]

Hello Everyone,

Well I am starting a new farming operation. I am converting a basement room, into 3 seperate rooms.

I am going to have two 1000W HPS, and 1 1000W MH.

First room with the 1000MH, is going to be for 2 or 3 Mother Plants and the clones. Do I need a 1000 Watt MH for 3 mother plants, and 40 clones? Or can I go with a lesser light?

The 2nd room will be for vegetation with 1000W HPS, and 3rd flowering of course, with 1000W HPS.

All rooms will be covered in Mylar on all sides (walls, ceiling and floor). How many plants could I put in each room, with the 1000W lights? I am hoping to have 30-40 plants under each of the 1000W HPS, so 40 in flowering and 40 in veg at once. Is this to many, or is this a reasonable amount?

Also, heat is going to be a concern of mine. I am going to be running a duct out of my central air unit, into each of the rooms.

My other question, with regards to the heating, should I just get the regular 1000W light system, or should I spend the extra 250 bucks (per light, so extra $750.00), to get the Cool Breeze lights, which will let me hook up an exhaust fan that blows air across the bulb.

Is this worth the extra 250 per light? How much does this help control heat? Or is it not worth the cost. Here is a link -- http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/customkit...HLHPS10CB6&eq=. They do not come with the fan or accessories to hook it up, so it would be $344.00 for the light system and an extra 250 for the fan and accessories to install it.

Thanks guys,
If you could shed any light I would appreciate it.

My last grow was only 5 plants in a cloest under a 400W MH, so this is all new to me. Just trying to get everything planned as best as possible, so when I start, I have as little amount of problems as possible.

[wunschshrek]

Bump.

My main question is if anyone has any experience with the Cool Breeze lights, and if they are worth the extra 250.00 per light. Does the fan make that much of a heat difference to justify the cost?

[irieluv]

Ok dude, I would do things just a bit different.. I would change it to two separate rooms instead of three, one for veg, one for flower, In the veg room I would probably get a 600w, just cause yer gonna leave it on, and then in the flower room put 2 1000w next to each other, this is better than two separate flower rooms because the overshed of the other 1000w light increases the light in the room over all.. So, with your clone/moma room you would take 40-50 clones, root them, veg them for a week and then throw them into flower under 1000w in your flower room, 4 weeks later the next batch of clones will be ready and veg'd and you can put them under the other 1000w light in your flower room, now you have 1000w canopy that is ready to be cut in about four weeks, which will be replaced immediately with the new 40-50 clones your preparing in your veg room, So you'll harvest 1 1000w canopy every month, so long as you have your clone production stable. If I'm not mistaken, a perpetual harvest is what you were trying to acheive by havein a clone room and veg and flower room right? cause if so, this would work better I think...

I would go with the aircooled lights, I use them and they are very productive in exhausting the heat from the lamp so long as you have a good exhaust blower hooked up and the lights hooked up inline... you start fidgeting ducting all over and they are less efficient...

Hey bro, by the way, you never mentioned what medium you were using, dirt, hydro? this 40-50 plant per light thing is real easy in hydro tables with rockwool or coco, and it's actually less work than dirt.. little more equipment to buy in the beginning, but you'll love the results.. Either way though, soil is good too....

[wunschshrek]

+REP

Thanks a lot for the great advice man. Yes I was aiming to get a perpetual harvest.

I am going to be building a hydroponic system for them, right now I am deciding between and ebb and flow, and drip system. I am trying to find a good large-scale how to guide to build a hydroponic system, a lot of the how-to's I have found were for smaller grows.

I am currently downloading the grow video "I grow chronic", because I remember it had a how-to on building a hydroponic system, I believe it was an ebb and flow but I can not remember.

What hydroponic system would you suggest for a grow of this size?

I have never done hydroponic before, my previous setups were all organic grows in FoxFarms ocean forest.

Thanks again man, appreciate it.

[wunschshrek]

Ok I decided I am going to ebb and flow methon, in both veg and flowering.

I am still going to set up 3 rooms, but using your advice, I will use 1 room for flowering with (2) 1000 W HPS, and a room for vegetation, with (1) 1000 Watt MH, and I will use the third room for the mother plants and clones, and I will get some Fleuro's for that room (I actually have a spare hydrohut, so I want to put that to some use and will use that for the clones/mothers).

Couple more questions, rep for anyone that can help me out with these.

1-- With my new setup, I think it would be easiest, to just flower them all at the same time, under the 2 lights. So could I fit 60 clones udner the 1000 Watt MH, and then move those 60 into the flowering room, under the (2) 1000 watt HPS? Would the 1000W MH be enough light for all 60 in vegetation for a month?

2-- How many mother plants should I use, in order to be able to cut 60 clones every 2 months, without harming the plant. I don't want to cut to much away from one plant, so if I need 5 or 6, I would rather just keep that many.

Thanks for the help everybody, and if you can think of anything else to add, please, and I will rep you for the help.

Shrek

[irieluv]

I'll try to help out a little more here. If I can.. I think your idea of making a 2000w room flower at once is a great idea, that's what I do, it will just be cutting every 2 months instead of every 4 weeks, that is what doing it like I said would achieve. But yes, to have a cut every 2 months and you would have plenty of time to root your clones, veg them, and yes I think the one MH would veg 60 plants into nice little bushes, near the end of the month they will really need to go into two tables though..

on the mother question, it kinda depends on what you veg them under, I can get about 200 clones off my two moma's every 3 weeks, but they are under a 600, so if it's just some t5's you'll want a few of them... if you have enough watts on them then I'd say probly like 2 would be fine... You could keep six moma's but when they got more mature you'd probly run out of room.. 2 mature moma's would do nicely...

[fatdog]

Originally Posted by wunschshrek

All rooms will be covered in Mylar on all sides (walls, ceiling and floor). How many plants could I put in each room, with the 1000W lights? I am hoping to have 30-40 plants under each of the 1000W HPS, so 40 in flowering and 40 in veg at once. Is this to many, or is this a reasonable amount?

i wouldnt put mylar on the floor. the reflected light can burn the sensitive undersides of the leaves.

[plastic bob]

You definitely need those 2 1000W's in your flowering room, even with two you are going to be sacrificing some of plants potential growth unless you are moving them around so they all get a chance to be closer to the light-source at one point or another. Unless growing with hydro somehow allows you to grow the plants closer together, but I doubt it.

If you are going to be vegging 60 plants constantly, then you will be fine with the single 1000W as they aren't going to need a shitload of light to get going. Just enough to stay hardy and in good health.

And those cool-breeze lights aren't too shabby, I've had experience with some Canadian brand that make the same systems, and they work pretty damned well. You are still going to need a charcoal filter, a few of those fans you hook em into, a bunch of ducting, and some normal standup fans. But a large part of the heat is going to be sucked through those ducts in the lights and taken outside wherever you are putting it.

For that clone question I think you could survive with like 5 to 6 mothers, maybe even get away with 4 if they are some giant bushes.

[Mr.Sparkle]

you should get a scrog net for the flowering room, i wanna do something similiar to this except with aeroponics, but thats for another time...