White Widow Grow- Generic Potting Soil vs. Miricle Grow

[CoreyP]

ARGGH!!! It makes me soooo angry to see someone that has both MH and HPS and only use HPS to flower. Sure you want to use mh for bushy stocky plants, but for flower you want to cover as much of the spectrum as possible. And since LED technology isnt were we need it to be at the moment we are stuck with MH and HPS. Use them BOTH at the same time. Or use the HPS and throw in some leds for added spectrum OR do like i did. I have a 1000w HPS and 3 4ft T-5s on each wall. You want to cover the full spectrum guys, we should know this. The exception is if you only have one light or can only afford one light then you want to get an HPS. It is the best all around light.

[SmknVTEC]

Corey, my HPS bulb is the Hortilux bulb. In addition to being 55,000 lumens as opposed to the standard 50,000 hps bulbs, it has a blue spectrum in it. Therefore, the need to flower with both mh and hps is really not necessary because the bulb has all the spectrums. Of course one can never have too much light unless temps get out of control which mine would running anything more than one HID.

[SmknVTEC]

Hey guys tell me what you think.
Pictures are of
plant 1
plant 2
plant 3
plant 4

[Swa_Swa]

1, 3, 4 look like males

[SmknVTEC]

Swa, check out the top of plant 2 again.

[SmknVTEC]

All four of the plants were male. I blame the government. If their ridiculous laws were not the way they are, I would have germinated all 10 seeds and had at least one female. However, not all was wasted as I feel I have proved that MG soil with time release is a distant second to just about anything else. Here are a few last pics before I destroy them, such a shame because they are so beautiful. I don't think I can keep them because my other closets have cloths in them which I fear could transfer pollen to my future females.

[Swa_Swa]

Originally Posted by SmknVTEC

Swa, check out the top of plant 2 again.

ahh I missed it. That sucks bro! I blame the cia.

[urgr8estfear]

Yo VTEC, excellent thread man!

I love reading side by side's comparisons, especially so when done by an experienced grower like yourself.
Great experiment, too bad you ended up with 4 males.
This should be made mandetory reading material for all new forum members.

Thanks buddy!

[lancir]

well mg soil has worked pretty good for me in the past, but thats pretty much all i ever used, and after a few weeks i even introduced more fert to the plants. BUT,,, I think maybe I'll try something else with less fert and see what happens. Maybe i've been missing the boat. I moved to a new place, and just built a new grow box. I'll let you know.

[SmknVTEC]

Thanks urgr8est and definitely give a different soil a try lancir.

Also, I could not bring myself to chop them all so I saved the runt of the litter, the MG plant. Maybe I can get some pollen to make for seeds when I get some broads.

[luvofthagame]

In my soil mix i used earthworm castings, bio-bizz light-mix, black peat, and Miracle Grow Organic Mix and I just couldnt imagine using just the Miracle grow, seriously. A "fresh" bag(and i use that very lightly)from home depot was just full of gnats and just the overall texture and moisture of the soil is disgusting. If you ever compare a high quality bag of a soil-less mix like bio-bizz next to MG, ud see. I dont think anyone can argue that if u want to grow marijuana and not have tons of issues, please spend the extra money and save yourself the trouble. I've read alot of posts where most will claim its all they have in their area, this is true, I have the same issue. However, the internet is a beautiful thing. If you look hard you can find a good company to work with to buy soil and have it sent to you. Yes, shipping can get high sometimes depending on how much you need. for example, i bought bio biz light mix online, great price-a 50 ltr bag cost me around 20 dollars to ship-sounds like alot i know, but its worth it to do it right, plus 50 ltrs will last me a while since i mix with others, plus I can make the shipping prices back cuz i wont need to buy weed, which is most peoples goal. I think these threads proves what so many experienced growers have stressed before, it just does not work well for weed. I agree that the thread should be a sticky and considered important info. Awesome job SmknVtec

[SmknVTEC]

Well I am attempting to germinate 2 more WW and one Sour Diesel I only have one diesel so best wishes there. I guess if I decide to photograph them I will have to start a new thread because they won't be in MG. The MG Male sure has big balls though. Soon he will be moved to a separate closet where I can hopefully get some pollen.

BTW that neem oil is great. It killed mostly everyone on the first spray and everyone on the second 7 days later.

[RedSorcerer]

Oh lucky me.
I've got 8 plants about 1 week old each. All in MG.
This threads giving me a feeling I'm in for one hell of a grow season.

[gonejah17]

srry bout the males cuh

[SmknVTEC]

thanks my younger brother gonejah17

RedSorcerer, which MG soil do you have?