White Widow Grow- Generic Potting Soil vs. Miricle Grow

[SmknVTEC]

Here they are at 26 days old. First pictures are before being topped, second set are after topped; MG plant has no perlite in it so no white in the soil. As we see the MG plant has a slight bit of fert burn. I will water and adjust pH after these were taken. Non MG plants get fed the Fox Farm FF grow big.

[doob3r]

awsome side by side shots man. its cool to see it actualy going down. they all look happy and healthy to me anyways. little burn on the MG plant in the last pic, the non MG plants look beefier(sp?) to me

[SmknVTEC]

FUCKING BUGS!@@! THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I GOT BUGS FROM MIRICLE GROW SOIL. They are only in the MG plant but, they are all together so my guess is they all could have bugs now. This junk soil better not ruin my other three or I will be pissed.

Thanks doob3r, they all are a bit stretched from the CFL's last week along with the unexplained stretching initially. All I need is a good mom to clone from. In all fairness I burned one other plant slightly. You can barely see it but it looks like even organics can burn; especially a nute sensitive strain such as white widow WW.

[SmknVTEC]

All is well except, compared to the other three, the MG plant looks like a runt. Pictures later this weekend.

Nodes are alternating on one of the plants as well here on day 33 of life and veg.

[cultivationist]

Originally Posted by SmknVTEC

All is well except, compared to the other three, the MG plant looks like a runt. Pictures later this weekend.

Nodes are alternating on one of the plants as well here on day 33 of life and veg.

they say alternating nodes is a sign of matureity or maybe u need bigger pots it thinks its got little more room to grow i think it cant be mature yet

[SmknVTEC]

Oh sure I see alternating nodes all the time at 4 weeks; especially when topped. It's the top shoots that are alternating. I would agree that they could use more pot room but, until they show sex I won't transplant. I think I see male characteristics on one already. MG plant burned a bit more too. PICS tomorrow or Monday.

[mordgrow]

shit, thats nota burned plant

haha Ive got some godamn burnt plants!

but hey, they still produce buds, just not as pretty to look at.

[SmknVTEC]

Well the MG plant is looking worse. It took about four weeks for the excess ferts to finally catch up with it. Today I flushed the MG plant with 3 gallons of pH ballanced water.

Pictures were taken just before the watering/flushing. They were not fed and all pH ballanced [run-off] at 6.6-6.8. These were under a 400 watt MH for 3 weeks and CFL for one week and were topped once. They are 34 days old and remain under the MH on 18/6.

Looks like the basil I aeroponically cloned is doing well in the MG soil.

First picture: alternating nodes at the top of the best plant
Second: group shot
Third and Fourth: MG Plant
Fifth: basil

[mordgrow]

looks prety stunted.. I dont think its fair to flush it, your washing out all the ferts that we try to warn people about!!

[IMgreen]

nice experimant SmknVTEC!

I love side by side futzing with stuff, makes watching he grass grow all the more interesting

[cultivationist]

thats a pothetic top job on top of the nasty mg shit
thats what stunted it the topping
then all that nitrogen in phosphorus in the mg in my oppinion not enough or too much nitrogen is in the mg
i threw out my mg organic choice for container plants
and went with fox farm ocean forest

[SmknVTEC]

Originally Posted by mordgrow

looks prety stunted.. I dont think its fair to flush it, your washing out all the ferts that we try to warn people about!!

LOL Flushing Probably won't make much of a difference.

Originally Posted by IMgreen

nice experimant SmknVTEC!

I love side by side futzing with stuff, makes watching he grass grow all the more interesting

Thanks brother, I like side by side comparos too!

Originally Posted by cultivationist

thats a pothetic top job on top of the nasty mg shit
thats what stunted it the topping
then all that nitrogen in phosphorus in the mg in my oppinion not enough or too much nitrogen is in the mg
i threw out my mg organic choice for container plants
and went with fox farm ocean forest

What's wrong with the topping job? The others were topped exactly the same way too. Why are they not stunted? Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil has nutes in it as well. Some seedlings, especially white widow, could get burned from that soil too just to let you know.

[myles117]

dude ur top job has nothing to do with that stunting. the mg plant is being toasted by the nutes. the other plants look great. ur doin ur part right

[SmknVTEC]

Thanks myles.

[gonejah17]

Originally Posted by SmknVTEC

Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil has nutes in it as well. Some seedlings, especially white widow, could get burned from that soil too just to let you know.

If you don't believe him, check the beginning of my thread where I burnt my seedlings with FFOF and who else but SmknVTEC talked me through it!!

The thread is great V a nice tutorial on the effects of MG - can you explain why flushing "wont make a difference", and also do you think the ph had anything to do with the "plant burn"

Sorry if the questions are obvious keep in mind im still a noob and always learning.

Thanks again for the thread Vtec very informative as usual - one of these days itll let me +rep u again lol