Dual arc tube bulbs?

[SteveDave]

Has anyone heard anything about these bulbs...http://www.hhydro.com/cgi-bin/hhydro/HH01019.html


They're supposed to be a 600watt hps and a 400 watt MH in one bulb. It would save money, since I would only have to buy a 100 watt hps ballast.

[balla420]

never heard of that shit.......but even without it you can avoid buying 2 ballasts... just buy an hps ballast and when you veg use a MH CONVERSION bulb... they are made specially to run off of an HPS ballast. you will still have 2 bulbs.. but only need one ballast, and i'm sure that 2 in one bulb is a lot more expensive, so a regular hps bulb and a MH conversion bulb together would probably cost about the same as that one dual bulb.... plus its been around already and everyone knows it works...

plus with that two in one bulb...if one of arcs fucks up then you gotta buy the whole nrw bulb again...when if you had seperate ones, of one fucks up then you only gota replace one, so it will save you money

[brokencage]

realy quit low lumen output to for a 1000 watter.my 600 hps puts out only 3000 less lumens.

[SteveDave]

Originally Posted by balla420

never heard of that shit.......but even without it you can avoid buying 2 ballasts... just buy an hps ballast and when you veg use a MH CONVERSION bulb... they are made specially to run off of an HPS ballast. you will still have 2 bulbs.. but only need one ballast, and i'm sure that 2 in one bulb is a lot more expensive, so a regular hps bulb and a MH conversion bulb together would probably cost about the same as that one dual bulb.... plus its been around already and everyone knows it works...

plus with that two in one bulb...if one of arcs fucks up then you gotta buy the whole nrw bulb again...when if you had separate ones, of one fucks up then you only gota replace one, so it will save you money

na man I know that I wouldn't have to buy two ballasts, Its just that the dual arc is a dual spectrum lamp, so it would be like a mh and a hps at the same time, i heard that having both spectrum's is better for growth.

[turbolaser4528]

yeah this is what ive heard as well. I saw these bulbs on ebay they look very promising. Some grower i heard say that the growth of his plants under a dual arc bulb was incredible. Its not that much more expensive, and so what, your bulb dies after a year 2 years, just buy a new one itll be worth it!!!

DOES ANYONE HAVE A GROW JOURNAL OR MORE INFO WITH THE DUAL ARC MH/HPS BULBS!?!?!?!

[Sebae09]

they seem to good to be true.....

[turbolaser4528]

that doesn't help too much...

They put out less lumens then the regular hps, but the increased spectrum should make up or it. I dont see why this wouldn't create better plants and yields. Anyone!??!?

[turbolaser4528]

bump

[curtropolis420]

ok so basically i'm gonna tell you that thing is a huge waste of money..... your paying 170$$$ just for the bulb and then dropping another 350-360$$ on the stupid ballast..... you're only getting 100,000 lumens for 1000 watts thats not shittttt my 200watt MH puts off 30,000 lumens and a 600w hps puts off 60-70k lumens your best bet would either buy one or the other if you buy a MH dump the money your saving effefiently like 2700k cfls (same spec as a hps) or if you get a hps grab 6500k cfls its so much more light,cost effecient

[curtropolis420]

this wouldn't create better yeilds either you'd have to compensate for all the wasted money you dumped on a conversion bulb anyways the only thing adding a mh arc to a hps bulb does is lower lumens and put out more uvb rays uvb=thc not yeild if you want yeild grab a 600w hps for 200$ or even build one yourself for cheap as hell and get a uvb lamp and cfls......CONVERSION BULBS ARE A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY THEY ARE THE EASY WAY OUT FOR RICH PEOPLE...=)

[curtropolis420]

i'm just rambling but still the bulbs have such a low rated life anyways think of how many lumens you lose after a year of use i bet its only pumping out like 75k lumens thats useless if your trying to pack watts and your bulb goes dimmer....

[Anony]

The OP has been banned.

[curtropolis420]

what is the OP and why has it been banned?

[curtropolis420]

city 17 is a way fun game

[turbolaser4528]

i dont care that much about the money, if the bulb dies in a year ill replace it. The the biggest deal in the world. But the dual spectrum during flowering should increase yield. Even though the bulb would be putting out less lumens the plants could use more of it because its blue and red spectrum. Besides the cost of the thing, any other info on this?

I might consider ceramic metal halide actually since thats been proven....

thanks for all input, any more info preferably a grow report with a dual arc or cmh bulb would be freakin awesome