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Old 01-14-2007, 03:40 AM
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Hermie, Don't understand???

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Ive heard people talking about hermie's when talking about plants,is this when the plant is female aswell s male could somene plz tell me..Thanks for any repleys

P.S Could this be possible if buying packets of feminised seeds?
 
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hermies is a female plant that has both female flowers and male seed pods
now someone correct me if am wrong but I think this happens when plants go under alot of stress
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Yes thats what it is. I think it can happen whenever, but is semi-rare. But if you get one, the seeds you get off it or other plants around it will be feminized.
 
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Yes thats what it is. I think it can happen whenever, but is semi-rare. But if you get one, the seeds you get off it or other plants around it will be feminized.
that is not totally true. if your hermie plant is mainly a female, with some male flowers then the chromosomes it passes will LIKELY(not definitly) only be female, hence femmed seeds. if you've got a mostly male plant with a couple of female flowers then the chromosomes it passes will likely be mostly male. in either case the chance of a hermie resulting from home-made fem seeds is very great. the breeders use a chemical to induce hermies, to make fem seeds so the chance of a professionally bred fem seed going hermie is less but still there.
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that is not totally true. if your hermie plant is mainly a female, with some male flowers then the chromosomes it passes will LIKELY(not definitly) only be female, hence femmed seeds. if you've got a mostly male plant with a couple of female flowers then the chromosomes it passes will likely be mostly male. in either case the chance of a hermie resulting from home-made fem seeds is very great. the breeders use a chemical to induce hermies, to make fem seeds so the chance of a professionally bred fem seed going hermie is less but still there.
Thats not right, a hermie crossed with another female creates female seeds, a hermie crossed with itself or another hermie will produce hermie/female. In no way will a hermie crossed with any female produce male plants as there it is still female chromosomes.

Any female plant can be forced to hermie, the difference being breeders do it intentionally we grow try not to.

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Only experience with "hermies" i've had has been random male pollen pod thingies visabe in late flower on female plants. This has happened several times with the exact same genetics (ongoing cuttings of cuttings... technically the same plant) with varying severity, leading to varying quantities of seed per bud. Note that i think a dozen or so seeds per oz is a bloody good thing for future fuck-ups or whatever.

Anyway as an example; my current harvest (of ~ 1 lb) has so-far yielded no seeds, directly relating to the fact that there were hardly any male pollen sacks / or bananas or whatever ya wanna call 'em visible throughout flower.

In contrast the harvest before that (also approx. 1lb) delivered over 250 seeds. I could see a fair amount of 'pollen producing' male bits during late flower on this plant, and kinda expected the result of a bunch of seeds scattered throughout the yeild.

Note that the temperature conditions for the most recent "seedless" grow were near on perfect, after unblocking a dusty as fuck carbon filter (no shit, i slowly but eventually lost ~ 50% air flow), whilst the previous, air-flow restricted grow copped some pretty high temps for the most part of flower. My observations seem to show good temps / less stress made for fuck all self impregnation... and high temps / more stressed plant cracked the shits and went into survival of the species mode and made it's own seeds. (i'm serisously thinking all female chromosomes or whatever too now)

Naturally curious about the feminised seed theorie's out there, i sowed about 20 of these 'self pollinated' 'hermie' seeds all of which (who survived lol, about 12) showed FEMALE preflowers... before being kulled off for lack of space and my hate of dirt (sorry kids).


I've read a lot, and produced a lot, but that's just my 2 cents worth of experience on "self pollination"


Did that make sense? lol

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best way to avoid heries is get ur environment right - ie no light leaks, heat / ph stress etc & stick to regular seeds.
Feminised seeds are where the trouble lies.
imo they are not feminised at all, but hermaphrodised!!
Especially avoid dutch passion feminised seeds atm as their quality control is fkt up.
Everyone I know who has used dp in the last year has had crops ruined by hermies - me included.
3 hermies from pack of 10 pollenated themselves & my other grow :/

avoid them like the plague. 2nd grow with fem seeds & 2nd hermied crop.
Before using feminised seeds I had never had a full blown hermie in years of indoor & outdoor growing - seen a few bananas late in flowering but nothing like the freaks i got off DP
 
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I just noticed my plants are showing a few seed pods and the plants are about 5 weeks into flowering. Is there anything I can do to stop the seed pod growth w/o removing the plants
 
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:21 AM
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There are two types of hermies.

One type is a deformed and most likely genetically screwed-up plant -- it will have both male and female flowers pretty much all over the place. These plants aren't good for much -- they won't grow well, the female bud probably won't be very potent, and the pollen from these is not necessarily feminized. It's a freak and can pass this screwed-up trait to any offspring.

The other type is a female plant through and through where individual bud sites have been stressed or coaxed with special hormones to produce physically male flowers. These are very rare and difficult to produce purposely. Since these plants are 100% genetically female the pollen from these male flowers is feminized.
 
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