Whats this harvest when trichomes become a certain color to have a "type" of high ?

[jooeel211]

a couple of threads back, one of the guys had a question about when to harvest to have the head high. well, of course, mu was in that thread and he gave a lil picture of when to harvest. the picture was when the trichomes become a certain color, itll give you a indica or sativa high > couch-lock or head high. so whats this sativa and indica dominant strain thing ? i need a clear explanation to how it is that chopping plants at an earlier time can give you the sativa high.

you feel me on this ? like wth ... i think this is bs ...

[ISTANDALONE]

chopping the plants when the trichs are mostly cloudy prevents the thc from degrading into other cannabinoids (sp?), which cause the couch lock high. once the trichs turn amber is a sign that thc degradation has occured. at least thats the way it was explained to me.

[BrazyJay]

if u have an indica and harvest when most trichs are cloudy, u will get a more sativa-like high. If u have a sativa and harvest later when a lot of trichs are amber then u will have a more indica-like high. hope that makes sense

[88bonk88]

its no BS

When THC is being produced, you start seening it come from spikey things coming off the pistles.....(forget name....trichs...trycylic...i dunno, whatever!!)

THEN.....THC is broken down with UV light, so if you leave them growing to long....the cloudy THC producing psitles will change amber, which means more cannabinoids are being prodiced.
Cannabinol (CBN) and Cannibidol (CBD) are just some of the many cannabonoids that help with the "couch lock" high, while more THC will produce a head/ high.

Its really smokers prefrece when to pick....for me, I let em go a little amber cause I sit and play video games all day.....
My roomate likes a little less amber and more cloudy, cause he spins trance/hip-hop so he likes to "feel" the music!

I suggest going to radio shack (the source by circut city) and pickup a 60-100x magnifying tool...(like 10 bucks or so) and that way you can really get in and take a look when to pick.


(p.s. let me know if you want to learn more about Cannabinoids and their effect on the human body. I am taking 4th year Nueroscience, specializing in drug effects and behaviour)

[-mu]

Hey! Now I'm in this thread, too!

Something I've wanted to add to this when-to-harvest debate for a while...

Picking a Sativa late won't get you a couch-lock body-fuck in the same way as picking an indica early isn't going to get you a psychedelic headrush high. The important thing to remember is that each strain is unique in its expression of its full range of cannabinoids (and many related volatile oils, flavanoids, etc.), so, by harvesting early or late, you can pick the balance that suits you best with that strain.

Each strain has a "perfect" harvest point that is a) most suitable to the strain, enabling us to experience its full range of effects, and b) what we personally prefer. With a new strain, it's wise to pick a nug or two every few days from when the first cloudy trichome appears, right up to 50% amber. The next harvest, you'll know exactly when that perfect day is.

The maturation process is so incredibly complex, we would need a good few pages to really get to the bottom of it, but probably the most important thing to keep in mind is that it's not a singularly linear process...

Some trichomes will mature faster than others.

UVB increases the amount of fully-realized THC in the buds, but also degrades it faster than regular light.

While some precursors are maturing into full blown THC, at the same time THC is degrading into other cannabinoids. Somewhere in the middle is that perfect day when THC has reached its maximum potency.

Maturation and degradation continue throughout the drying process, but more maturation than degradation which pretty much ceases when you harvest.

And when picking your harvest day, the moon phase is one of the most important factors. I've just finished my "pickings plant" which has been gradually reducing in potency since the full moon, even though technically it was maturing.

If you can schedule your second harvest (that perfect day you picked the first time around with your strain) to coincide with the period directly after the full moon, you will pick the dankest nugs by far. If you have a predominantly indica strain, and want to add a more cerebral quality to it, pick right on or just after the full moon. Caution, though, weed picked at the full moon can have unexpected qualities.

With all this stuff, seeing (or rather, experiencing) is believing, so try it yourself, and see.

-mu

[cupcheck]

how does the moon have an effect on an indoor grow?

[-mu]

The fact you are indoors is irrelevant, it's nothing to do with its light. Links and info here...

http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...questions.html

-mu

[jooeel211]

so no matter what mj strain you purchase, it all depends on when you harvest your plant ? cause why is it that people are shooting for these expensive strains that are real costy and yet all you have to do is harvest at a desired stage. according to brazjay, his explanation is that stativa strains can give a indica high, vise versa ... ummm ok.

lol this is all because of you MU ! i hate you ...

jk its just a lil weird that all of a sudden, strains dont matter much ...

[jooeel211]

yo 88bonk88, fill me in on the effects of cannabinoids. good to know human behavior with plants that play us. thanks bro, looking forward to your essay.

also Mu, thanks for your clear explanation of the differences in trichome colors.

[Dan42nepa]

hmmm so right after the full moon? Like how many days? I'll have to check the calender for febuary

[-mu]

Originally Posted by jooeel211

so no matter what mj strain you purchase, it all depends on when you harvest your plant ? cause why is it that people are shooting for these expensive strains that are real costy and yet all you have to do is harvest at a desired stage. according to brazjay, his explanation is that stativa strains can give a indica high, vise versa ... ummm ok.

lol this is all because of you MU ! i hate you ...

Hah! wait until I tell you the one about how seeded bud is more potent!

Originally Posted by jooeel211

jk its just a lil weird that all of a sudden, strains dont matter much ...

Nope, you're still not getting it. Strain is EVERYTHING.

Every strain is unique, has a unique blend of the many available ingredients that make up a good smoke, THC, etc. But every strain, as well as being unique, has a range of effects ranging from the purest, clearest high that it is capable of, to the most opiate-like cannabinoid stone that it is capable of.

The italics are important; if you grow a heavy indica strain, designed for maximum resin and couch-lock, it will have only a small amount of "cerebral" capability. If you harvest the plant early, you can experience this more cerebral high without its usual couch-lock cannabinoids interfering, but it can never have the devastating cerebral qualities of a good sativa, no matter how early you pick it; the quality is just not there to begin with (though it may be interesting and unique in itself). The strain is designed to be harvested later, where all the genetic traits the breeder was aiming for will reach their full potential. And vica versa; very few sativas buds can induce a true indica couch-lock, no matter how long you leave them on the plant, or how much you smoke.

Think of it like an lamp, an HPS, for example, being an indica lamp. Each lamp has a unique spectrum, some have more blue, others more red, solarburst more green ( oh! how useful! ) and so on. Let's call red the opiate side of things, and blue the cerebral side. With me so far?

Now, as an analogly for early harvesting, we could place a filter over our chosen HPS lamp to cut out most of the red light, making the overall light spectrum more blue, but a) there's now less total light, and b) it's still not transformed into a Metal Halide!

Strain is all important. The day of harvest is your final tweak, no more, though with some strains, it can be a fairly powerful tweak. Experimentation is the only way. So first you choose the right strain for your needs, then you find which point in its maturity is ideal for you.

Originally Posted by Dan42nepa

hmmm so right after the full moon? Like how many days? I'll have to check the calender for febuary

The day after is probably best, though do pick a nug or two bang on the full moon, dry and cure as normal, and then find somewhere quiet and comfortable to smoke that shit. Check the calendar here...

http://www.zodiacarts.com/Calendar.shtml

-mu

[BUDS-R-US]

Mine is due to be cropped 4 days after the full moon..

[-mu]

That whole week is golden. Have fun!

-mu

[BUDS-R-US]

Sweet thats what I like to hear Magic in my BUDS...

[mister2]

Originally Posted by -mu

Check the calendar here...

http://www.zodiacarts.com/Calendar.shtml

-mu

is that the same for the UK?