Freedom’s guide to quitting nicotine.

[freedom4ever]

Originally Posted by QuantumStorm

Yeah its basically a nicotine vaporizer. I want to quit to save some money and just because its better for me. I'm really high right now and watching south park so writing is hard. Hehehe

Doood, I hear ya man Try writing a whole guide when you are completely mashed up on some primo quality homegrown.

[QuantumStorm]

Oh I can only imagine, i've smoked a bunch of my friend's first grow and its good, just not like the sour diesel I smoked last night.

Edit: I forgot to add that the cartridges for the electronic cigarettes come in 16mg, 12mg, 8mg, and 0mg of nicotine so you can get the 0mg ones and still go through all the motions and get the taste without anything else

[myles117]

well freedom, I gotta come clean. I bought a pack for the camping trip and they all got smoked up. As I said earlier though, now I don't have any urge to get another. Probably won't for a month or so. I don't get my strange twisted relationship wit tobacco.

[Darkhosis]

You know it's bad when you walk into the doctors office and without missing a beat he said "I thought you were going to quit smoking" Those moments you realize how bad you smell like cigs. All my clothes are cig scented even the ones I just washed.

Thank you for your guide. I've smoked from 18-38 now... I love cigarettes and it is SO hard for me to stop. It was easier quitting meth than cigs. It's past time I should quit to where it is dramatically affecting my health. Very very hard as you know.

Your guide was like a sign to me that I need to really take the shit seriously and stop.

[freedom4ever]

Originally Posted by myles117

well freedom, I gotta come clean. I bought a pack for the camping trip and they all got smoked up. As I said earlier though, now I don't have any urge to get another. Probably won't for a month or so. I don't get my strange twisted relationship wit tobacco.

I totally understand man. But you must STOP seeing yourself as twisted and/or strange, I know there's nothing easier than self fladgellation, but it's non productive. The fact is, that at the moment your brain sees no real reason for you to quit. You are young, don't smoke everyday or even every week and because of that it probably doesn't really even cost you monetarily.
On page one I talked about us often needing a significant event to pre empt an attempt to quit, you just haven't had that yet...but you will. Give it a few years and when your teeth start going brown at 25 and your hair becomes lank and dry and your skin starts sagging and going gray and you feel like you can't get out of bed because your lungs are trapped in your throat, you might feel more inspired. Or you could try and save yourself that agony by dropping this bag of bricks now. It's all about realising that there are waaaay more sensible drugs to be taking.

Something will happen at some stage which makes you really want to try and quit. Then you will know you are ready.

I've got you on the couch again man!

Anyhoo, don't sweat it. I know you won't be a slave to nicotine forever, trust Freedom.

Originally Posted by Darkhosis

You know it's bad when you walk into the doctors office and without missing a beat he said "I thought you were going to quit smoking" Those moments you realize how bad you smell like cigs. All my clothes are cig scented even the ones I just washed.

Thank you for your guide. I've smoked from 18-38 now... I love cigarettes and it is SO hard for me to stop. It was easier quitting meth than cigs. It's past time I should quit to where it is dramatically affecting my health. Very very hard as you know.

Your guide was like a sign to me that I need to really take the shit seriously and stop.

I hear ya man, even my pets used to smell of tobacco. I remember the cat jumping on mhy lap in the garden once and he reeked of cigs! He does love his drugs though. Shhh. I didn't say that k?.
I loved cigs too dude, I know how you feel. Just try and accept that we're not allowed them MJ gooooood, nicotine, baaaaaaad. In the end, if we value our health, we gotta make some brave decisions. Besides, I'm thrilled I had the quitting experience now, it was honestly life changing. Like taking acid for the first time.
You can do it, you know you can. You've recognised it's time for a change, now ya just gotta make it happen. Formulate a plan and stick to it, make it that simple for yourself. Gluck!

[myles117]

Originally Posted by freedom4ever

I've got you on the couch again man! Mmmmmm, Myles on a couch.

Anyhoo, don't sweat it. I know you won't be a slave to nicotine forever, trust Freedom.

Hahahaha maybe I needa new addiction to replace nicotine. Wanna be that addiction?

[freedom4ever]

Originally Posted by myles117

Hahahaha maybe I needa new addiction to replace nicotine. Wanna be that addiction?

Oh dear, new lows.

[myles117]

nahhhhhh new highssssss god I missed these convos

[QuantumStorm]

Originally Posted by freedom4ever

I'll be your addiction or your slave man, you choose.

Oh dear, new lows.

Hahaha thread derailed, now about BDSM and green?

[Not-Samatha]

Great guide!

I am in the process of quitting the habit myself!

+rep

[kerenski]

hey freedom,

well first off +rep for making such a greatly amusing and informative guide.
i gotta say... i'm a fucking nicotine-junky, i'm not addicted to the stuff i'm dependant -.- i started 14years ago at age 13 and pretty much since then i've been a chainsmoker, i've been up to 3packs a day at times, atm at about half that, so 20-30cigs/day. what i mean by being dependant instead of addicted is as follows: an addiction constantly prompts you to get whatever you're addicted to, a dependance however prohibits you from doing anything else until it is satisfied. it's usually like that: i think "hmm... could have a cig about now..." and either i immediately do that or it just becomes so hammeringly fixated in my mind until i finally(like 5 mins later) give in.
i once even had a pneumonia and didn't even manage to quit for one day...
i've quite often been at a point where i thouight "ah fuck this, i'll just quit" but then immediately the whole self-delusioning machinery jumps into action as you've described quite well, i have virtually tried every quit-aid available: the gum, the patches, injections, hypnotherapy, books, just willpower... all of that saw me fail... my record was 5 days... 5 days without smoking in 14 years, no wonder i got chronic bronchitis... -.-
but i have to say actually your method has something all those others lack... it prepares you, it deals with the time before quitting, it gives you means to counter-act the traps your addicted mind constantly sets for you, and i really like that, plus it's written real entertainingly by an ex-smoking pothead
so actually reading this thread has for the first time in like 4 years gotten me to seriously thinking about quitting again, but not in that fearful "i'll lose sumthin"-way, but rather as something good i can actually achieve... thanks just for that already
so actually now i think as soon as my new grow (check my sig xD) really kicks in and i got the constant harvest schedule rolling i might have a viable shot at becoming a non-smoking pothead (buying really isn't an option here, the cops are so damn annoying that all but the shadiest dealers have quit, making the price for hash about 15$/g and for weed 20 at least if you manage to get any at all...)
thanks again^^

peace



kere

[freedom4ever]

Originally Posted by myles117

nahhhhhh new highssssss god I missed these convos

Originally Posted by QuantumStorm

Hahaha thread derailed, now about BDSM and green?

Right you fuckers. I'm getting this bitch back on track. Man, my threads always go off on tangents.

Originally Posted by Not-Samatha

Great guide!

I am in the process of quitting the habit myself!

+rep

Thanks a lot. Quitting is soooooo 2009.

[freedom4ever]

Originally Posted by kerenski

hey freedom,

well first off +rep for making such a greatly amusing and informative guide.
i gotta say... i'm a fucking nicotine-junky, i'm not addicted to the stuff i'm dependant -.- i started 14years ago at age 13 and pretty much since then i've been a chainsmoker, i've been up to 3packs a day at times, atm at about half that, so 20-30cigs/day. what i mean by being dependant instead of addicted is as follows: an addiction constantly prompts you to get whatever you're addicted to, a dependance however prohibits you from doing anything else until it is satisfied. it's usually like that: i think "hmm... could have a cig about now..." and either i immediately do that or it just becomes so hammeringly fixated in my mind until i finally(like 5 mins later) give in.
i once even had a pneumonia and didn't even manage to quit for one day...

*looks suspicious* Are you sure we weren't separated at birth?! You just described the exact smokey-person I was two years ago.

I have good news for you my friend. You can sooo do this! Oh yes, we are of the same breed and I'm here to tell you, you may not believe it now, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life!!! Sorry got carried away.

i've quite often been at a point where i thouight "ah fuck this, i'll just quit"

Haha! Yeah, I've been there. It's laughable really. Oh yeah sure, just quit. I mean it's not like it's as addictive as heroin or something. You gotta learn to give yourself a break with this shit. Accepting the difficulty in this task is the only way to move forward, no point ignoring it. What you are doing is NOT insignificant.

but then immediately the whole self-delusioning machinery jumps into action as you've described quite well, i have virtually tried every quit-aid available: the gum, the patches, injections, hypnotherapy, books, just willpower... all of that saw me fail... my record was 5 days... 5 days without smoking in 14 years, no wonder i got chronic bronchitis... -.-

*nod* All the quitting aids in the world won't help you unless your brain is on board wih the task.
Try not to think of it as failing. It has more of an effect on you than you might realize. When I was quitting I kept a diary on the wall and marked off each day with a cross as I went along. The negative affect that that 'cross' ended up having on me was a nightmare!! Allow me to try and explain:
After a week and a half of no cigs, I suddenly had a baaaad craving. For inspiration I looked at my chart, covered in crosses. The only real association my poor, tiny brain could make at the time with crosses was doing badly at school. Crap answers ended in a cross, good ones got a tick/check. My brain screamed at me that the whole quitting process was a negative one and I had the goddamn paperwork to prove it!!
I promptly started marking the days off with an acid house smiley face instead.

You have not failed because you will still succeed. Tell your subconscious, if it starts that shit again your gonna tell it to fuck off!

but i have to say actually your method has something all those others lack... it prepares you, it deals with the time before quitting, it gives you means to counter-act the traps your addicted mind constantly sets for you, and i really like that, plus it's written real entertainingly by an ex-smoking pothead

This made me a smile a lot and is why I created this guide. Thank you.

so actually reading this thread has for the first time in like 4 years gotten me to seriously thinking about quitting again, but not in that fearful "i'll lose sumthin"-way, but rather as something good i can actually achieve... thanks just for that already

You are very welcome. Thank you for taking the time to read it. Bet you can't believe I haven't even got to the best bits of quitting yet huh? You sound like someone who is so ready for this challenge! It's time to remind yourself what tough stuff you're made of. It's both liberating and enlightening, I promise.

so actually now i think as soon as my new grow (check my sig xD) really kicks in and i got the constant harvest schedule rolling i might have a viable shot at becoming a non-smoking pothead (buying really isn't an option here, the cops are so damn annoying that all but the shadiest dealers have quit, making the price for hash about 15$/g and for weed 20 at least if you manage to get any at all...)
thanks again^^
peace

kere

Growing totally fucking rocks and fyi, is a great way to keep you occupied. Embrace it as a hobby and learn everything you can, the rewards are fucking fruitful!

Laters.

[kerenski]

woohoo, now that's a proper reply
thanks for your concern, it's really seeming to go uphill in a way^^ just two more months or so and i'll have enough bud to finally make the switch from smoker to smoker
thanks again, you really made my day

peace



kere

[NYCdeisel]

Im so glad i dont smoke cigarettes, i can see how difficult it really is, and that most people who fail at quitting probably have the wrong mindset for the sudden change.
Anyway, my mother has been smoking for many many years(not sure how many), and now has something like bronchitis( orsome lung infection) and says it actually hurts to smoke cigs, and she hasnt had one in over 2 days now! I thought great, maybe she actually has a shot if she gives it a try, so i said 'hey since you already stopped, why dont you just quit smoking?'(i bet i make it sound too easy). So she says 'i dont want to' and then tells me to go away and bother someone else. Im honestly really worried about her, i think she might have already accepted that she will be a smoker for ever.
If you have any advice or anything it would be greatly appreciated, though im not looking for anything specific here, just thought id share my little story.