A Comprehensive Guide to Dealing with Police (No Snitching Involved)

[BluntTrauma]

Should have told him straight out that you don't consent to any search, and you were not performing any action that gave him the right to search you. Also, you should have gotten a lawyer.

[the dingusus]

i hear you couldnt aford the lawyer and i told them no...they said becouse i match the discription of someone involved in a disturbance i had no choice they basicly threatened me told me they would do it one way or the other?

wish i could have gotten a lawyer

[Starian]

great guide +rep, one thing that i cannot stress enough is NEVER EVER leave ANYTHING in plain sight in your vehicle. i always make a point to make sure my passengers and myself have everything put away either on their person or in a bag or something. a cop will get on you about the smallest things even just a lighter or a subculture mag.

IF THEY CAN SEE IT, IT IS FAIR GAME IN THEIR MIND. never hide shit in your glovebox or anywhere else you need to access during a routine stop.

[BluntTrauma]

You can always get a lawyer. That's why we have public defenders, dude. And again, you can ask--are you detaining me?

[the dingusus]

true ...and if i come opon this situation again i will remember the advice here
backwoods fla cops dont always play by the rules... they have what is called the good old boys nework... where they are all related soandsos uncle is the judge and the other guys nefu is the public defender... bout as corupt as it gets but definitly some good advice here
thanks guys

[StoneColdChilla]

Don't snitch even if they snitch on you.

[IFFN32]

Originally Posted by pigstick

As you had said numerous times in the post, consenting to a search, or admitting to having any MJ in the car is sure to get you in trouble. I was wondering what your view was concerning medical marijuana cards. What would be the best path to take in the event of a police stop? Admit to having marijuana/paraphernalia and show him my medical card/doctor's note and hope the officer is nice enough not to still arrest me? (in california, under proposition 215, people with a doctor's recommendation are allowed to purchase medical marijuana from dispensaries and possess quantities under two ounces or something like that. HOWEVER, california passed that law despite federal law (which supercedes state law) banning marijuana and paraphernilia, so technically he could still arrest me.

In short, the question is this...
I have a Medical Marijuana card. Would it be better just to admit to having weed and showing my card and hoping the officer is accepting of the proposition 215 thing, or denying everything alltogether?

Also, in the event of being stopped at a random time, say, the middle of the night or something, the phone number you call on my medical recommendation won't work because the doc isn't at the office at that time. If the officer can't get a hold of the place that issued me the recommendation at the time of the traffic stop, what would happen then?

This guide helped a LOT! Thank you for taking the time to post it!

I recently got pulled over, showed the cop my recommendation and i was off with a warning. The cop asked me a couple of questions like how much i have, and i answered truthfully. Im assuming he was just checking to see if i didnt pass the legal limit.

Make sure your recommendation has a clear expiration date, and i think you should be fine.

Also instead of a recommendation, the state card is much better since they can just run your ID number in their database, no calling necessary i believe

[sinsemillaplease]

Originally Posted by pigstick

As you had said numerous times in the post, consenting to a search, or admitting to having any MJ in the car is sure to get you in trouble. I was wondering what your view was concerning medical marijuana cards. What would be the best path to take in the event of a police stop? Admit to having marijuana/paraphernalia and show him my medical card/doctor's note and hope the officer is nice enough not to still arrest me? (in california, under proposition 215, people with a doctor's recommendation are allowed to purchase medical marijuana from dispensaries and possess quantities under two ounces or something like that. HOWEVER, california passed that law despite federal law (which supercedes state law) banning marijuana and paraphernilia, so technically he could still arrest me.

In short, the question is this...
I have a Medical Marijuana card. Would it be better just to admit to having weed and showing my card and hoping the officer is accepting of the proposition 215 thing, or denying everything alltogether?

Also, in the event of being stopped at a random time, say, the middle of the night or something, the phone number you call on my medical recommendation won't work because the doc isn't at the office at that time. If the officer can't get a hold of the place that issued me the recommendation at the time of the traffic stop, what would happen then?

This guide helped a LOT! Thank you for taking the time to post it!

Do everything as recommended in the guide... but if it comes to the point that he will be searching your person or your car, without consent, and he finds your medicine tell him that you are legally permitted and show your registration.

[hubblybubb]

Did you see the article on norml about a new handheld instant drug tester that can detect active cannabinoids instead of inert metabolites?
Prohibition Hi-Tech Tool: Just Another Anti-Marijuana Silver Bullet? | NORML Blog

[xBIGD525]

We are living in a police state. Look at Professor Gates' case, look at the EMT who got pulled over and assualted by two Oklahoma state troopers, look at Shem Walker who got shot and killed by an undercover cop who was sitting on his stoop and refused to leave when instructed because he was wearing headphones and listening to a buy bust operation, look at David Mayo who was convicted after the cops secured a search warrant to his home based on a purchase invoice for grow lights that the cops never even had and never showed to the warrant-granting judge... the list goes on and on.

I hate that we have to be adversaries of those who we pay to protect and serve but that's the way it is. Our founding fathers formed the constitution to prohibit federal police but now we have the FBI, DEA, ATF, and Secret Service. We've slowly allowed police forces to take control of our rights and we haven't put in the proper checks and balances to keep them from becoming a bureaucratic, tyrannical force wrought with corruption. It is our supreme duty as citizens to stand up for our rights and the rights of others who police wish to destroy. Even dangerous drug dealers have rights and if they have theirs trampled its one step closer to complete loss of rights for all.

-clapping hands slowly leading into a full standing ovation-
wow, im quoting this in real life, nicely put

[theonexx]

QUESTION:

Say a copper pulled you over and asked to search your car. You have a multiple ounces of nugget wrapped up in cellophane (so it doesnt smell at all) and you put them in one of those locker/safes. And the safe was in your car. And you allow him to search your car. What happens when he gets to the safe? Do you have to open it for him? What if you tell him you dont have the key or whatever...do you think he'll just let you go or do you think this would be even more suspicious and he would try to get the dogs in?

[sinsemillaplease]

Originally Posted by theonexx

QUESTION:

Say a copper pulled you over and asked to search your car. You have a multiple ounces of nugget wrapped up in cellophane (so it doesnt smell at all) and you put them in one of those locker/safes. And the safe was in your car. And you allow him to search your car. What happens when he gets to the safe? Do you have to open it for him? What if you tell him you dont have the key or whatever...do you think he'll just let you go or do you think this would be even more suspicious and he would try to get the dogs in?

1) Cellophane doesn't block the smell at all. Vacuum sealing does a good job though.
2) He can't get to the safe without a warrant.
3) You shouldn't be consenting to any searches.

[sinsemillaplease]

Originally Posted by hubblybubb

Did you see the article on norml about a new handheld instant drug tester that can detect active cannabinoids instead of inert metabolites?
Prohibition Hi-Tech Tool: Just Another Anti-Marijuana Silver Bullet? | NORML Blog

In my opinion, this is a good thing. It invalidates the argument made by cops that weed can't be legalized because they can't test for intoxication with breathalyzers. It would also hopefully eliminate drug tests at work... no need to test for past use when all employers should care about is current intoxication on the job.

[theonexx]

Originally Posted by sinsemillapleas

1) Cellophane doesn't block the smell at all. Vacuum sealing does a good job though.
2) He can't get to the safe without a warrant.
3) You shouldn't be consenting to any searches.

Cellophane has always done a pretty great job for me. With large amounts to. Maybe i should invest in a vacuum sealer/air tight thing tho. IDK where to get em tho...any suggestions?

I understand that i shouldnt be consenting to searches...but this question has been confusing me.

The cops around my town have actually made it publiclly known that they plan to ask every young kid (under 21) if they can search their car regardless of whatever reason they pulled them over for. I already know a few kids who have been searched, but they all stupidly consented.

One kid actually got pulled over. And a few minutes after being pulled over the K-9 unit came and parked in front of him. Then they took the dogs out, sniffed around the outside, alerted, searched the car and found weed.

So yeah, shits pretty heated now. Say a cop asks me to search, I have weed in my car, and I say politely no. Me being younger and more knowledgeable of my rights might piss him off. Plus he'll think i'm hiding something. I understand that he can't make me wait around for the dogs to arrive, but don't you think they can pull some bullshit to keep me waiting long enough? Like tell me to wait. Or tell me he has to run my license or some bullshit and then go back into his car and wait there until the dogs come? Or tell me theres a problem and he needs to look me up in his system. Or any other bullshit reason. I'm sure they can think of some stupid reason to keep you waiting a few extra minutes...enough for the K-9's to roll up?

So yeah, you think I should keep it in a safe and consent to search and act like i'm not hiding anything? Or deny consent to search and hope that he doesn't pull some bullshit and get the k-9's on me?

thanks brotha

[hubblybubb]

The cops around my town have actually made it publiclly known that they plan to ask every young kid (under 21) if they can search their car regardless of whatever reason they pulled them over for. I already know a few kids who have been searched, but they all stupidly consented. That sounds very unconstitutional if that statement from the police is in writing somewhere I would contact ACLU.