A Comprehensive Guide to Dealing with Police (No Snitching Involved)

[ChrisSmokes]

Originally Posted by sinsemillapleas

Here is an outline of appropriate behavior following a traffic stop:
1. Make no visible attempts to conceal evidence unless you can do so surreptitiously (w/o being noticed).
2. Pull over fully providing the officer with enough room to safely approach the vehicle. Turn off the car but leave the ignition set to accesory as to allow raising of the windows.
3. Do not reach for license or registration until told to do so. Do not store anything illegal near or with your license or registration. Turn down music.
4. Roll up all windows leaving the driver window open only enough to permit conversation.
5. Do not answer any questions, especially incriminating ones, except to invoke your 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment rights.
6. If asked to step out of the vehicle roll up your window and lock the door on the way out. Pocket your keys.
7. Remain calm and never physically resist.
8. Do not consent to any searches and do not confess to any wrongdoing.
9. Ask if you are free to leave.

In my state we have "implied consent" if we are in a motor vehicle. idk what kind of rights we have there.. But I'm pretty sure its next to nothing meaning the cops can pretty much search the car even without evidence? Perhaps you can help inform me?

[sinsemillapleas]

Originally Posted by ChrisSmokes

In my state we have "implied consent" if we are in a motor vehicle. idk what kind of rights we have there.. But I'm pretty sure its next to nothing meaning the cops can pretty much search the car even without evidence? Perhaps you can help inform me?

Which state are you referring to? As far as I know implied consent only applies to breathalyzers and field sobriety test but I can't be sure without knowing which state.

[Laughing Grass]

I like the guide except the search part. If you get pulled over and the cop asks for consent to search your car you should give consent. If you dont, the cop is going to make you sit there and wait for a dog to show up and then the dog is going to do one of those famous fake positives that will give the cops the right to search the car anyways. Refusing consent is going to light up a bright red flag to the cop and he is going to comb that car pretty well and also have a dog to use too. Where as if you had just consent, he would have looked at the common areas like the floor, center console, glovebox and be on his way. Far less likely to me of getting busted in my opinion then to make the cop get a dog and do shit the hard way.

[sinsemillapleas]

Originally Posted by Laughing Grass

I like the guide except the search part. If you get pulled over and the cop asks for consent to search your car you should give consent. If you dont, the cop is going to make you sit there and wait for a dog to show up and then the dog is going to do one of those famous fake positives that will give the cops the right to search the car anyways. Refusing consent is going to light up a bright red flag to the cop and he is going to comb that car pretty well and also have a dog to use too. Where as if you had just consent, he would have looked at the common areas like the floor, center console, glovebox and be on his way. Far less likely to me of getting busted in my opinion then to make the cop get a dog and do shit the hard way.

Please don't be misled by this post. This is the absolute worst thing you could possibly do. NEVER consent to a search. Police are not permitted to detain you until the dogs arrive unless they have specific, articulable facts that constitute reasonable suspicion. Any search without consent and without probable cause will be thrown out in court. Refusing to consent to a search does not constitute suspicion or cause to search, arrest or detain you long enough for k-9 unit to arrive. Cops will try to scare you into believing that they will call in a k-9 unit but without reasonable suspicion they won't do this either. This guy has no clue what he is talking about and no knowledge of his constitutional rights. Don't be like sheep led to slaughter. Know your rights!

Repeat after me, "Sir, I do not consent to any searches."

[Laughing Grass]

Originally Posted by sinsemillapleas

Please don't be misled by this post. This is the absolute worst thing you could possibly do. NEVER consent to a search. Police are not permitted to detain you until the dogs arrive unless they have specific, articulable facts that constitute reasonable suspicion. Any search without consent and without probable cause will be thrown out in court. Refusing to consent to a search does not constitute suspicion or cause to search, arrest or detain you long enough for k-9 unit to arrive. Cops will try to scare you into believing that they will call in a k-9 unit but without reasonable suspicion they won't do this either. This guy has no clue what he is talking about and no knowledge of his constitutional rights. Don't be like sheep led to slaughter. Know your rights!

Repeat after me, "Sir, I do not consent to any searches."

Have you ever seen Barry Cooper's video's dude?? Plus if I were the cop and you didnt consent to my search I would find any and every reason to have probable cause...have you ever noticed when you get pulled over the cop usually trys to lean into the window? He is smelling for drugs and the cop can just say he smells weed even if he doesnt and have probable cause. Cops are trained lier's so dont think they wont pull that shit on you. Try getting a copy of Never get busted and Never get raided....I trust this guy over some dude on GC any day and I know my rights and I do know that alot of whats in those video's will save your ass.

Oh and I forgot to add that it should be common scents that if you are cool with the cops they wont give you too hard of a time, but if you make them go the hard long route they will turn into assholes pretty fast and you end up making the situation even worse then it was.

[Dr. Neux]

Originally Posted by Laughing Grass

Oh and I forgot to add that it should be common scents that if you are cool with the cops they wont give you too hard of a time,

I won't be taking the advice of anyone who calls it "common scents".

[sinsemillapleas]

Originally Posted by Laughing Grass

Have you ever seen Barry Cooper's video's dude?? Plus if I were the cop and you didnt consent to my search I would find any and every reason to have probable cause...have you ever noticed when you get pulled over the cop usually trys to lean into the window? He is smelling for drugs and the cop can just say he smells weed even if he doesnt and have probable cause. Cops are trained lier's so dont think they wont pull that shit on you. Try getting a copy of Never get busted and Never get raided....I trust this guy over some dude on GC any day and I know my rights and I do know that alot of whats in those video's will save your ass.

Oh and I forgot to add that it should be common scents that if you are cool with the cops they wont give you too hard of a time, but if you make them go the hard long route they will turn into assholes pretty fast and you end up making the situation even worse then it was.

Yeah right... so instead of taking the chance that he might search you in violation of your 4th amendment rights... you're recommending to guarantee a search by consenting. Once again... this guy is spreading extremely poor advice. I don't doubt most seasoned tokers know better than to consent. For all you apprentice tokers out there: Give yourselves a fighting chance in a court of law. Do not consent to any searches. EVER!

Check out this extremely helpful video from...

And here is the Flex Your Rights website. The title bar reads "Just Say 'No' to Police Searches.

The host is the former director of the American Civil Liberties Union. His recommendation: Never consent to any searches. So who do you trust? The bill of rights and the ACLU or the poster above? The choice is easy...

[Dr. Neux]

Excellent guide. There's so much people could do to avoid getting caught if they just keep their head when encountering cops and follow all the rights they have.
I suggest getting the book "Marijuana Law" by Richard Glen Boire for anyone who's further interested in this topic. It goes into great detail about property rights, searches, cars, homes, arrests, and more.

[mrgoodsmoke]

Beautifully written and very precise. Nice post man.

[GlitterPaws]

Really good thread. This is important information every United States citizen needs to know. Great Guide !

[sinsemillapleas]

Here is what the ACLU has to say about traffic stops. The full text of the Know Your Rights handbook can be found here.

Q: What if law enforcement officers stop me in my car?
A: Keep your hands where the police can see them. You must
show your drivers license, registration and proof of insurance
if you are asked for these documents. Officers can also ask
you to step outside of the car, and they may separate passengers
and drivers from each other to question them and
compare their answers, but no one has to answer any questions.
The police cannot search your car unless you give them
your consent, which you do not have to give, or unless they
have “probable cause” to believe (i.e., knowledge of facts sufficient
to support a reasonable belief) that criminal activity is
likely taking place, that you have been involved in a crime, or
that you have evidence of a crime in your car. If you do not
want your car searched, clearly state that you do not consent.
The officer cannot use your refusal to give consent as a basis
for doing a search.

[Dr. Neux]

Originally Posted by applepie28

good job on your guide, while I realize some people dis-approve of my actions I stand by them. while people may say that I am a snitch it is for the betterment of any user in my area. while people on grasscity may not appreciate what I do the people who live in my neighborhood certainly do, as I have been told. my best friend in the world said to me about a week ago that whoever was getting rid of the dangerous dealers was doing everyone a favor. I don't snitch because of what they sell, I snitch because of how they sell it

Don't worry about the punks hounding you for "snitching".

I find this guide to be a superior one to yours, only because it goes into better detail about how to act in certain situations.

I too applaud you for getting the dangerous and violent drug dealers off the street when you can. There's a difference between telling the cops who you got your weed or coke or ex from, and telling the cops about murderers and people who pull guns on folks. They're the people who give any form of drug use a bad name, and get violent stereotypes given to marijuana users by the ignorant public. Those are the people who make it harder to get herb legalized, and who make cops and judges feel inclined to be harsh on drug users, even just pot smokers. Anyone who calls you a "snitch" or insults you for it should read through your posts again and then hang their head in shame.

[420Skunk420]

Originally Posted by applepie28

good job on your guide, while I realize some people dis-approve of my actions I stand by them. while people may say that I am a snitch it is for the betterment of any user in my area. while people on grasscity may not appreciate what I do the people who live in my neighborhood certainly do, as I have been told. my best friend in the world said to me about a week ago that whoever was getting rid of the dangerous dealers was doing everyone a favor. I don't snitch because of what they sell, I snitch because of how they sell it

please keep this out of this non snitching thread.

[420Skunk420]

Also what if they say they smell some buddah?
can you get a witness near by to smell your car or something for proof?

[Dr. Neux]

Originally Posted by 420Skunk420

please keep this out of this non snitching thread.

Please keep your policies that are detrimental to pot smokers out of a marijuana forum.