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[gord420]

UFC is awesome. I was watching some other fighting show I forget what it was it wasnt pride and I swear the guys could woop any UFC fighters butt they were so fast it was unbelievable it almost seemed like they fast forwarded it they were so quick.The matches never lasted more than a minute or 2. I dont think a UFC fighter would stand a chance with these guys they were so lighting quick. If I remember what it was called ill tell you you guys have to see it its insane. If you like UFC you would absolutely love it its way faster paced.

[BMISS]

just curious if you guys knew that chris leben had tested positive for steroids after the fight in england with bisping.

[doindia]

Originally Posted by sneakatoke

I wasn't surprised that Mike won, although I was surprised by how quickly it happened. He's no joke, it's just that he's not well known. He's just as skilled as Urijah, except for hand speed, and he's bigger and stronger. That means he nullifies Urijah's biggest strength which is wrestling. 100% agree with you about Paolo. He's just not the same fighter without the juice and when he's hooked on drugs. Jens loss didn't surpise me, either. Leonard is a great fighter, but like Brown he's just unknown. He also trains at an amazing camp, Greg Jackson's (same camp as GSP and Rashad Evans.)


Hell yeah. I've started training jiu jitsu and muay thai. I'll be picking up wrestling soon. I do it partly because I like to fight, but also because I want to work my way up the ladder and make a boatload of cash. Whether or not that happens... well, we'll see, but I'll be working my ass off to do it. Beats forty a week any fuckin day.


MMA ftmfw

Nov 15 has a lot fights that are hard to call... Will Randy's gameplan be good enough to handle Brock's wrestling and athleticism and size? We'll see. Does Brock have the conditioning to go into the later rounds if Randy manages to drag him into deep waters? We'll see. Will age FINALLY catch Randy? Maybe. Could go either way. Too hard to call since we don't know enough about Brock.

If Stevenson can hold Kenny down he'll win. If Kenny can stay on his feet he'll pick Joe Daddy apart. And even if Stevenson get's Kenny down, Kenny might sub him. I'm picking Kenny, but it'll be a good scrap.

Don't know enough about the other fighters to call the other fights.

i know Mike's no joke or else he wouldnt be up enough in ranks to hold the belt, but i still didnt see it going down like that.

as for the lesnar couture fight, i realize anything could happen but, lesnars strength is power, and wrestling, i wouldnt say athletisism because ive yet to see a true test of his cardio and endurance. any old school mma fan knows, anything could happen, but NEVER bet against couture. not to mention his wrestling background is VERY extensive as well, and his power is always there. his style is greco roman, which has been proven to best suit the mma style. when lesnar first came to the ufc, i wanted to see him do good. when he lost to mir and tipped his hat, my confidence only went up, thinking he was gonna learn from his mistakes and do better, but after the heath herring fight, i think its OBVIOUS he is a showboat, and needs to go back to the organization, that would actually pay you for "riding someone like a horse" with time left on the clock and grabbing the mic, yelling "do you see me now" fuck that. you have won ONE fight. he is UFC'S kimbo slice and i think he will realize what he's got himself into when he goes up against couture. as for his age... i still have serious faith in the fact, that age= experience and in mma experience= win. like i said its always a possibility, but i think couture will put him where he blongs.

D'oh! Yeah, I meant Mike, don't know why I put Mark... And yeah, from what I've read that was supposed to be Paulo's last fight for WEC anyway so maybe thats why he came in overweight and was just kinda hanging out for the fight.

yeah well the story behind this is, chael got robbed last fight, he was DOMINATING, but thats what mma is all about. anyway once he got his rematch (title fight) chael promised his grandfather on his death bed he would win the belt. paulo came in WAY over weight like he didnt even try. giving chael no way to win the belt back. what a sack of shit, he weighed in at 192... wtf?


and yeah leben just lost another fan.

[BMISS]

^ i wouldn't say that leben lost me as a fan...but i am disappointed by it.

but i've also heard fighters say over half are prolly juicing - if nothing else, just to help with injuries..

[neutr0n]

i know yall watched that couture(however you spell his name) lesnar fight. couture would have had him if he had more weight on him.

[doindia]

Originally Posted by BMISS

^ i wouldn't say that leben lost me as a fan...but i am disappointed by it.

but i've also heard fighters say over half are prolly juicing - if nothing else, just to help with injuries..

i dont know man, i just cant side with someone who juices IN THIS SPORT. im FAR from against steroids, my roomates use them, a friend of mine does competitions and uses them. im very educated on the facts, things within moderation are ok. HOWEVER this is man to man combat, it does not get anymore brutal than that. the last thing we need is someone juicing to get where he or she is. on the flip side, i DO realize that most of the people who get popped for roids ie leben, sherk etc... they arent like dball/winstrol etc.. and yeah your right they are just trying to overcome injuries, some of the roids are so minute that they really wouldnt play into the fight itself i just feel like when your making hundreds of thousands of dollars and its in your contract what you can and cant do, then forget it. and it may be hypocritical but in this sport especially. i dont think anyone could tell me there is a more combatinal sport.


and yeah i was really dissapointed at the couture fight... he is by far the better fighter, brock is just by far the better athlete, i couldnt imagine the energy expended trying to get his big ass off of me like couture did.


lets get some upcoming predictions??

penn, st pierre?

i say penn, he BARELY lost the last fight by a hair, and he has come MILES from where he started. i think he will pick apart with strikes. i dont even count gsp out though i think it will be amazing

[redpeepers]

Originally Posted by doindia

i dont know man, i just cant side with someone who juices IN THIS SPORT. im FAR from against steroids, my roomates use them, a friend of mine does competitions and uses them. im very educated on the facts, things within moderation are ok. HOWEVER this is man to man combat, it does not get anymore brutal than that. the last thing we need is someone juicing to get where he or she is. on the flip side, i DO realize that most of the people who get popped for roids ie leben, sherk etc... they arent like dball/winstrol etc.. and yeah your right they are just trying to overcome injuries, some of the roids are so minute that they really wouldnt play into the fight itself i just feel like when your making hundreds of thousands of dollars and its in your contract what you can and cant do, then forget it. and it may be hypocritical but in this sport especially. i dont think anyone could tell me there is a more combatinal sport.


and yeah i was really dissapointed at the couture fight... he is by far the better fighter, brock is just by far the better athlete, i couldnt imagine the energy expended trying to get his big ass off of me like couture did.


lets get some upcoming predictions??

penn, st pierre?

i say penn, he BARELY lost the last fight by a hair, and he has come MILES from where he started. i think he will pick apart with strikes. i dont even count gsp out though i think it will be amazing

Good post. The risk you run into with letting steroids slide -- because, let's face facts, steroids don't win fights -- is that guys can train through and heal from injuries and maintain training schedules far above what is achievable by a natural athlete. So while steroids may not win the fight, they open the window for one to train without concern for the limits of natural recovery. That...is a big factor.


Going crazy waiting for ufc92. I expect to see Wandy vs. Rampage III to be a bit more competetive, but with a similar ending to the first two. Really psyched for the Forrest/Rashad fight, to be honest every time I see Rashad fight for some reason I want him to lose...but he never does. Here's hoping! *crosses fingers*

[BMISS]

bj will win .....

[tiny_in_ireland]

Just found this thread, im a big MMA fan, my biggest letdown so far was that shit tito ortiz beating ken shamrock, Twice FFS!

Have to admit i would have liked Randy Couture to beat Brock Lesnar last month too,

Im starting to train in either reko roman or vale tudo soon, should be fun!

[BMISS]

clay guida and nate diaz has been confirmed....

[BillDavis]

Originally Posted by BMISS

clay guida and nate diaz has been confirmed....

That should be a pretty good fight. Both dudes don't hold anything back but Diaz will win by submission.

Crap.. Its not even gonna be televised. Just read that its gonna be on the undercard. Hopefully some of the fights end quick so they can show it.

[BMISS]

^i've read its gonna be undercard but that is just speculation right now until i see ufc confirm it.

if so, that is so shitty....definately has the FOTN potential...

[doindia]

hopefully it will be brought up from the undercard to an aired anyway...

i see diaz taking a fist beating then submission by leg.

[BMISS]

here's the fight card tonight....

-Josh Koscheck vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
-Jonathan Goulet vs. Mike Swick
-Razak Al-Hassan vs. Steve Cantwell
-Matt Wiman vs. Jim Miller
-Brodie Farber vs. Luigi Fioravanti
-Johnny Rees vs. Steve Bruno
-Brandon Wolff vs. Ben Saunders
-Nate Loughran vs. Tim Credeur
-Dale Hartt vs. Corey Hill
-Justin McCully vs. Eddie Sanchez

[BMISS]

Dale Hartt def. Corey Hill by TKO at :20 seconds, R2.
The fighters start trading on the feet as Dale Hartt lands a leg kick, and just as Corey Hill plants his right leg to throw a punch, he crumbles to the mat. It appears that Hill has a broken leg. The sound from the break echos in the arena. Hill is carried out on a stretcher. Marc Ratner says he is pretty sure Hill has a broken leg. Dale Hartt stays by Corey's side as he is hurt in the Octagon. Everybody in the arena is visibly shaken by the situation in the cage. The replay shows a very, very nasty break in Hill's leg. Dale Hartt is extremely classy staying by Corey's side and talking after the fight.

Dale Hartt def. Corey Hill by TKO at :20 seconds, R2.