LBH's 4-Way LST tutorial (w/ "topping" sub tutorial)

[DiAmOnD RaStA]

Originally Posted by LBH

How about like this? Partitioned but planted in the center, perfect for training. Not exactly "4 way lst".... but a VERY cool derivative!!.



** after reading through this again, I think this is pretty much what Rasta mentioned earlier **

Thats about right lol.

[nice_nugz]

i really like the way your plants turned out. Im defiantly gonna try to do this for my second grow nice post man

[shroomyshroom]

Originally Posted by LBH

How about like this? Partitioned but planted in the center, perfect for training. Not exactly "4 way lst".... but a VERY cool derivative!!.



** after reading through this again, I think this is pretty much what Rasta mentioned earlier **

thanx LBH and rasta this is exactly what i wanted to do

I wish sep would hurry up so i can start

[shroomyshroom]

LBH any updates bro

[LBH]

Lots has been updated with these plants but no so far as the lst. That part is over and we are onto something new, something outside the box again,............a "Double Scrog". Follow along by clicking the "Pineapple Express grow" link in my signature

[Smoked365]

This thread should be a sticky. Totally Legit.


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(i personally like the 'swastika LST' pic myself...with the 4 red arrows; )

[infamykillss]

ahhh i love that you put this tutorial up!

[dijobo1]

Originally Posted by LBH

The longer you can wait, the better the yield potential. It IS acceptable to go right to 12/12 but you'll be lowering the yield dramatically.

Now that's a piece of info that I am going to treasure. As I have been reading many journals most don't want to wait that long and I argue that fact. It is helpful seeing your grow and listening to constructional advise like yours. I saved you to my friends list and will be picking your brain later on. Thanks.

[LBH]

Originally Posted by dijobo1

Now that's a piece of info that I am going to treasure. As I have been reading many journals most don't want to wait that long and I argue that fact. It is helpful seeing your grow and listening to constructional advise like yours. I saved you to my friends list and will be picking your brain later on. Thanks.

well, it's an arguable point and the variables matter; strain, conditions, grower's time, attention , knowledge and creativity are just a few

Although the yield will be smaller per plant (I think we can all agree on that), you may be able to get 2 grows in during the same time frame to grow 4 full plants. With the sog, you also plant many more plants as smaller pots can be used taking up less space. So if the grower has his/her shit together with the next batch all sprouted and ready to go, a SOG grow can put out as much as a full grow and in some cases more. Depends on the variables

[dijobo1]

Originally Posted by LBH

well, it's an arguable point and the variables matter; strain, conditions, grower's time, attention , knowledge and creativity are just a few

Although the yield will be smaller per plant (I think we can all agree on that), you may be able to get 2 grows in during the same time frame to grow 4 full plants. With the sog, you also plant many more plants as smaller pots can be used taking up less space. So if the grower has his/her shit together with the next batch all sprouted and ready to go, a SOG grow can put out as much as a full grow and in some cases more. Depends on the variables

I do believe you can achieve much more utilizing this technique if you were to upgrade your lighting system. I'm all for the do it yourself projects as I have also built my own DWC and C loner, but as far as lights I'm going to come out of pocket along with an air scrubber. What do you think? A 600hps would definitely increase your yield.

[Joe Luxon]

Originally Posted by LBH

How about like this? Partitioned but planted in the center, perfect for training. Not exactly "4 way lst".... but a VERY cool derivative!!.



** after reading through this again, I think this is pretty much what Rasta mentioned earlier **

I would not recomend this at all.

Plants release growth inhibitors from their roots that stunt plants growing right next to them, you'll end up with 1-2 dominant plants, and the others will become runts; you will not get even growth on all 4 plants (except in a BB?)

1 plant per pot.

[LBH]

Originally Posted by Joe Luxon

I would not recomend this at all.

Plants release growth inhibitors from their roots that stunt plants growing right next to them, you'll end up with 1-2 dominant plants, and the others will become runts; you will not get even growth on all 4 plants (except in a BB?)

1 plant per pot.

What's a BB ?

What if the dividers were completely sealed so each segment was essentially it's own pot?

[shroomyshroom]

Originally Posted by Joe Luxon

I would not recomend this at all.

Plants release growth inhibitors from their roots that stunt plants growing right next to them, you'll end up with 1-2 dominant plants, and the others will become runts; you will not get even growth on all 4 plants (except in a BB?)

1 plant per pot.

this is utter bullshit at its best......... i have always grown 4 plants per pot and have never... ever...seen what you describe...............

[LBH]

Originally Posted by dijobo1

I do believe you can achieve much more utilizing this technique if you were to upgrade your lighting system. I'm all for the do it yourself projects as I have also built my own DWC and C loner, but as far as lights I'm going to come out of pocket along with an air scrubber. What do you think? A 600hps would definitely increase your yield.

HPS over CFL is a given, I'm restricted here though. My house was built in 1865 and if the cooling system ever failed, I'd come home to ashes with an HPS system, not acceptable. I'll be growing elsewhere in the future and those will all be HPS systems

[dijobo1]

Understood. You have t make the best of what you have available. Either way your grow is inspirational. I will be using your stlye of growing among other suggestions. Thanks