Boosting Growth: Electrical Stimulation w/ Pv Cells!? ^^

[Alexyonfire!]

Dont fuckin torture your plant man, its a living thing.

You dont want shock therapy do you?

[HappyFish]

Don't Pv cells have a separate capacitor to store the energy until night? If that's the case then by just removing the cell your only getting power while light is on it, so it produces nothing during night cycles.

[Dug]

Originally Posted by smoker123

well the plantricity article says something about turning up the amps and how the plant "produced no leaves because it didnt have to"goin to try this with mine. mabye ill get a leaf free plant thus solving a trash issue scince im in the city!will let u know how it works. great thread!

Careful, dude, my girls seemed a bit stressed when the electrodes where to close, and Ganja47 stunned his girls the same way for a while.

That said, I'm sure you know how thrilled I am that you're willing to try this. Accept the possibility of damage, and proceed by avoiding it, right? Who knows what you might come up with, this is truly pioneer territory, cause not many people are willing to up the amps risking their plant's health. Progress, though, comes only through experimentation, and experimentation includes the notion of risk.

Be sure to get back with the results if you try this, mate, will be waiting for 'em. Good luck!

~Dug

[danielbmx]

mabey this technique with L.E.D. would be a good combo..

I think im gonna take a few rips of PEP SPICE (since i cant smoke), get ripped and get a couple plants from home depot and give the electrical stimulation a test, since im not gonna be growing here anyitme soon.

[neuthral]

This looks like an interesting thread, im always up to experimenting with new stuff.
First day of zapping a chili plant with 5v 700mA (might be too much, time will tell) by two copper electrodes in the dirt both sides of the stem,
and the second experiment with a Cannabis clone in water with the stem in the middle of 2 electrodes charging the water and releasing oxygen and hydrogen.

Hope to see some results in a few days.

[4twen_t]

Now, what I want to know, does the Voltage and amperage matter at all? Because I'm looking at a few at dealextreme and I'm not sure whats best to get. Higher amperage? Higher voltage?

[neuthral]

Originally Posted by neuthral

This looks like an interesting thread, im always up to experimenting with new stuff.
First day of zapping a chili plant with 5v 700mA (might be too much, time will tell) by two copper electrodes in the dirt both sides of the stem,
and the second experiment with a Cannabis clone in water with the stem in the middle of 2 electrodes charging the water and releasing oxygen and hydrogen.

Hope to see some results in a few days.

so i gues 700mA was a little too much for the chili plant, after a few days it got wery limp.
The electrolysis clone seems to like it in there, no roots thou but the leaves look lively.

[Atarijedi]

It seems to me that the Plantricity guys are using an EMS device (Electronic Muscle Stimulation), although they call it a TENS device. I have built one before (an EMS device) and it output 550mW max, 55V@10mA, at a maximum of 80Hz.

I could easily modify it to change its output, but only Pulse Width, Frequency, Volatage and Current. Making different waveforms would necessitate a completely different design. Albeit not difficult as I have built a waveform generator (1Hz to 1MHz/Sqr, Tri, Sine) before, which might be perfect for the Ultrasonic Frequency testing in that other thread.

There are lots of things I would like to test, for instance, would a sine wave or triangle wave be better than a square wave since the change isn't so sudden/violent? Or how about placing an electrode at the bottom of the pot and using an acupuncture needle as the other electrode in various parts of the plant, like the top of the main stem or main branches?

More research is needed, and some proper testing is needed.

[walshy69]

Interesting article,

noob closet grower here with 4 pots in my closet with a 125w dual CFL, but will be adding more light in 2-3 weeks, thery're about 10 days old and I'll be more than happy to attatch some cells to two of the pots to see what happens. Bit short of cash at the mo' but should be able to add the cells in about 2 weeks, will update as it happens.

Happy growing folks

[Crizl]

I'm really curious about this i really wish someone would show us more before and after photos

[Crizl]

I'm doing this right now and so far the results are good

http://forum.grasscity.com/general-indoor-growing/425678-my-finished-stealth-grow-dresser-grow-journal-start-aurora-indica-blue-mystic.html

go here if you want to see Electrical Stimulation in action and you want to see how it really effects the plant

[mangledp00n]

Originally Posted by Crizl

I'm doing this right now and so far the results are good

http://forum.grasscity.com/general-indoor-growing/425678-my-finished-stealth-grow-dresser-grow-journal-start-aurora-indica-blue-mystic.html

go here if you want to see Electrical Stimulation in action and you want to see how it really effects the plant

hey,
I followed the link and the only thing I saw related to this topic is ...
"one more thing you might not know is that I'm using electrical stimulation to boost my plant growth as well." and below that you reference a picture. I couldn't find that picture. I'm just wanting to confer w/ some one else before I began posting my research results all willy over the web.
Could you give us some details surrounding your setup(Volts/Miliamps? did you use a Photovoltaic cell like the OP?
Thnx.

[Crizl]

yea i didnt go into great detail because its all described on this post
i was just making it known that if you want to see how this affects a plant then you should check out my plant.
I dont have the details you're asking for though because i simply did as this post explained and bought a lawn light thats solar powered and removed the cell then extended the electrodes and placed them about an 2 inches apart 1 inch away from the stem and about 2 inches into the soil

so far the plant hasnt stopped growing its just non stop
every morning that i take a look at her i can visually tell that shes grown
I'll get some more recent photos up soon so you can see just how much its grown in the past 5 days

and my plants only 18 days old and it has grown a lot compared to previous grows in such a small amount of time

[walshy69]

Alreet Folks
My little grow is coming along nicely for a noob. Picked up some patio lights last night and I've just dismantled them so I have 2 pv cells ready to drop into my grow. Will get them sorted out over the weekend as I am adding a few mods and more lights.
Dug, if you're reading, I dont wanna highjack your thread so can either update on here or just keep it to my journal, happy to do either
have a good one all

[thisisgreg]

Great Info guys! I'm still working on getting my setup completed, but i'll be adding PV's to my DWC grow in a month or so when the cab is complete.

Dug, thank you. Your threads really are making the inner geek in me interested in learning more