Boosting Growth: Electrical Stimulation w/ Pv Cells!? ^^

[WhatUserName]

Hey, so I have this great article to share that I found on electrical stimulation using a TENs unit. They're in depth study found 2 - almost 3! times the growth than a plant in direct sunlight. The plants that were electrically stimulated received ambient, window light only and grew twice the size of those outside in half the time! Here is the link:

Plantricity - great with lots of pictures

I'm buying a TENs right now

[weren't me]

Good Leg work! Rep+

[BluntForLunch]

Plantricity is an amazing article, I would suggest everyone reading this also click the link above, posted by whatusername.

[Ganja47]

here's another really interresting one about electro culture in all its forms. just spent the last 3 hrs reading there.

Robert A.Nelson: Hemp Husbandry ~ Electro-Culture (Ch 5)

Regards,
Ganja47

[Dug]

Originally Posted by Ganja47

hi dug and everyone of course,
first of all respect for your work and experiments and for sharing them withs us.

Thanks mate, I hope you'll stick around. It's great seing people who act. I'm a diy gyu too

Originally Posted by Ganja47

i left the u-bend to give them better halt in the coco, will this be alright or disturb the electrical flow ?

what about those tiny photovoltaic cells in calculators, i got hundreds of those.

finally would you mind me posting the results over at ukc which is the grower forum im at most, obviously with credits given where due.

Yes bending it a bit is better, it would be even better if you attached a kind of metal piece on each end, like a big screw. Carefull, don't put the electrodes to close at first, test your plant's response progressively.

As for the small PV cells you got, why not, if you can be bothered to connect them together, they would be like a normal PV cell. Parallel.

Ah, fell free to post the info whenever you like. Credits and a link to this thread would be cool indeed, not nessecary though ^^. Information for everybody, by everybody. Try making more people post their results.



@Ganja47 , @WUN, these are some excellent reads mates!!

Plantricity
Robert A.Nelson: Hemp Husbandry ~ Electro-Culture (Ch 5)

The info contained within those articles is mindnumbling! Well done dudes, thanks for the finds.
Plantricity demonstrated just the right kind of curiocity and will for exploration we got to have in order to progress! The possibilities are endless.
Nelson's stury is nothing less than staggering! So much great info and bizzare techniques.

Damn, with so many techniques around that have such great results, but are not widely known, the cannabis growing community could have been on an entirely diferent page by now! We need more peolpe with the curiosity bug in them!

Keep it up, we're getting somewhere!

~Dug

[cantharis]

Originally Posted by WhatUserName

Hey, so I have this great article to share that I found on electrical stimulation using a TENs unit.
I'm buying a TENs right now

I have a TENS - works WONDERFULLY wired to my cock !!!!

[Dug]

Originally Posted by cantharis

I have a TENS - works WONDERFULLY wired to my cock !!!!

Me 2, canth, it has grown huge! My cock really loves this sort of stimulation.






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[Ganja47]

lol, brilliant.
i found nelsons stuff very interresting as well, creating magnetic fields means nothing in terms of material, power or work involved. have a look through his genetic section too m8. now where can i get this colchicine stuff
so far nothing has changed but the electrodes just went into the ground yesterday so lets wait and see. i'll keep yous informed.

Regards,
Ganja47

[Dug]

Originally Posted by Ganja47

lol, brilliant.
i found nelsons stuff very interesting as well, creating magnetic fields means nothing in terms of material, power or work involved. have a look through his genetic section too m8. now where can i get this colchicine stuff
so far nothing has changed but the electrodes just went into the ground yesterday so lets wait and see. i'll keep yous informed.

Regards,
Ganja47

Magnetism is a very interesting thing, mate. I've been dwelving into its specifics for some time now. So far my results imply the probability of magnetism being the long sought-after solution of TRULY vertical grows. Imagine the possibility. Keep in touch, one of these days I'm gonna write a thread about magnetic fields, I hope we'll find something interesting there too.

I read a post a long time ago from a dude who used colchicine, and one part that has stayed in my memory is that the popping sounds of the male plants were SO loud that woke him up at night lol. We'll have to further investigate genetics, for sure. I convinced a friend of mine, a biologist, to take a look at this thread, and she said she'll hook me up with some interesting books (thanx M). Let's see what we'll find there.

Keep an eye on the ladies, Ganja, make sure the current is not too stong.

See you on the flip siiiiide ^^

~Dug

[1greenthumb]

Good work on the thread Dug If this all works out we could truly revolutionize the way herb is grown. I just have a few questions/points to make, Do you think it would be possible on a outdoor grow? Or do you think the rain water would affect it? Could you lay down an area plastic to control rain if needed ? If I understood the op correctly it works better in minimal light/sun. So I am curious to as if this could change way gorilla growers work, say may be allow them to grow up under the canopy's of the trees to reduce aerial visibility from LEO/MILITARY ? I live out in the mountains and wide open fields are few and far between if a farmers not using it. Lots of very large trees around everywhere. My neighbor has a solar panel on his gate opener for his driveway, that should work ehh ? It would truly be sweet if this would pan out I could actually grow some real plants 6+ ft tall. I have to keep my plots small in numbers with multiple sites or it becomes to visible. The regional military folks come out here and do training missions almost weekly in helicopters dropping off personnel to roam through the woods for a few days at a time. Its truly nerve racking strolling up on your plot !!!!!!! It could be worse though I a polaris ranger that I use to get out to my spot on the edge of the national forest ,and my dog (that can smell a bear from a mile away and run like a greyhound) and my little brother helps out with the operation, we have walkie talkies,escape routes & meeting spots already planned out in case!!!!!!!!!!

[Ganja47]

Originally Posted by Dug

Keep an eye on the ladies, Ganja, make sure the current is not too stong.

will do, actually she didnt look too happy so far so i moved the electrodes further away from the stem yesterday night and she picked up a bit last night (i keep her on 24/7). also i rotated the pot to move the cell a bit further away from the light.
maybe this cell would be good for the 3 pots together in series. for now i might just stick some black tape onto it to lower the power.

looking forward to your magnetism results m8. keep it rocking.

regards,
Ganja47

[Dug]

Originally Posted by 1greenthumb

Do you think it would be possible on a outdoor grow? Or do you think the rain water would affect it? Could you lay down an area plastic to control rain if needed ?

Sure thing, mate! No plastic needed, just cover the back of the cell with some kind of waterproof insulation, like silicone. You should be fine.

Originally Posted by 1greenthumb

So I am curious to as if this could change way gorilla growers work, say may be allow them to grow up under the canopy's of the trees to reduce aerial visibility from LEO/MILITARY ?

That's a great idea, dude, PV cells would be ideal for supplementing the light a plant gets under a tree! Give it a go!

Originally Posted by 1greenthumb

My neighbor has a solar panel on his gate opener for his driveway, that should work ehh ? It would truly be sweet if this would pan out I could actually grow some real plants 6+ ft tall. I have to keep my plots small in numbers with multiple sites or it becomes to visible. The regional military folks come out here and do training missions almost weekly in helicopters dropping off personnel to roam through the woods for a few days at a time. Its truly nerve racking strolling up on your plot !!!!!!!

The PV cell for the gate opener is probably too big, mate, it's gonna burn your ladies up. Get one of those PV gadgets from a local store, anything with a small cell should be fine.
PS: military dudes sweating and pumped up with adrenaline roaming close to your plots yelling @ eachother sounds like hell, mate.

Originally Posted by Ganja47

will do, actually she didnt look too happy so far so i moved the electrodes further away from the stem yesterday night and she picked up a bit last night (i keep her on 24/7). also i rotated the pot to move the cell a bit further away from the light.
maybe this cell would be good for the 3 pots together in series. for now i might just stick some black tape onto it to lower the power.

looking forward to your magnetism results m8. keep it rocking.

regards,
Ganja47

Yeah, there's a probability that the cell is too big, moving the electrodes away should fix the problem, and duct tape is a good idea too. My cells are quite smaller than yours, but the electrodes are pretty close to the main stem.

Keep it up, mate.

~Dug

[kyoinidaho]

i am very interested in trying PV cells on my plants (one at first, of course), but i think i may have a problem. i'm growing using hempy buckets, and am using a 100% perlite mix, and with how completely dry the top of the perlite gets, i don't think i'll have the moisture to carry an electrical current, is this correct?
would it be possible to maybe stick the electrodes actually in the stem? perhaps put some tape on the cell to restrict light going to it, and take tape off if my plant doesn't fry?
sounds quite foolish after typing it out...
another PV question: if my grow room is totally lightproofed 100%, would the PV cell pretty much lay dormant throughout the dark cycle?

also i wanna say kudos to Dug on some brilliant, helpful threads...i'd try sound waves, but i have pets...definately looking forward to reading your magnetism thread, when you write it

+rep, man, you are awesome

[Ganja47]

hi guys,

sorry been tied up in business and will be a lot in the future since i just started my own business . theres always time to care for the girls though, just not as much to take pics and post results.

so heres what happened so far. when i put the cell in on the 4th (electrodes 1.5 inch deep directly next to main stem) the plant looked stunted. i thought it might have been my mistake when transplanting but she looked really sick. after 2 days i moved the electrodes about 1.5 inch apart from each other with the main stem in the middle. i also covered about half of the cell and rotated it to the shadier side.
after that she really picked up, especially considering she was the smallest in the first place and was completely stunted and not growing at all for 2 days compared to the other two. she misses volume which i put down to my stupidity by zapping her like mad but she overtook in height no probs.

just check the images

1st - 9 days ago zapped one to the left, poor girl
2nd - 5 days ago to the right (and from now on). still the smallest but a bit healthier
3rd - today before topping still to the right. know what i meant, not bushy but tall
4th - today after topping, topped them at a height so 4 grow tips are same height now
5th - 4th plant in the bubble bucket, shes massive, started to lst today. same age and strain from seed as the other 3 in canna coco

Regards,
Ganja47

[smoker123]

well the plantricity article says something about turning up the amps and how the plant "produced no leaves because it didnt have to"goin to try this with mine. mabye ill get a leaf free plant thus solving a trash issue scince im in the city!will let u know how it works. great thread!