Super Growth Using Ultrasonic Frequencies!

[2confess]

i dont know if that rice thing will work. if it does im gonna shit.

[Dug]

Originally Posted by 2confess

i dont know if that rice thing will work. if it does im gonna shit.

Similar experiments have been done to water:

There you go!

And there!

And here is a video!

Its no secret anymore even to our western culture, mates, words and sound are powerfull tools within our grasp! If these things happen to water, and we are 70% water, imagine what negative feelings and words do to us^^

Here is an experiment with rice!


The japanese scientist who initiated these experiments is called Emoto. Search the net for more info.

Take care.
~Dug.

[Wrex]

Hey everyone i am going to stop by and add my own to cents here. I am growing with Sonic Bloom and their special frequency device. I use it once a week and the plants LOVE it. I see dramatic growth after 24 hrs and am thinking of doing this more than once a week. But for now im gonna follow the directions. The foliar spray that they give you works great and is well balanced for the pot plant. I can post everything that is in it if you guys want. i will know after work today. I strongly suggest buying one of these units/foliar feed it helps immensly. I also use no nuts except this and superthrive

[Wrex]

http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-gr...-hps-grow.html


This is my grow so far come check it out. I didn't start using the sonic bloom until the second set of pics btw=D

[Dug]

Originally Posted by Wrex

Hey everyone i am going to stop by and add my own to cents here. I am growing with Sonic Bloom and their special frequency device. I use it once a week and the plants LOVE it. I see dramatic growth after 24 hrs and am thinking of doing this more than once a week. But for now im gonna follow the directions. The foliar spray that they give you works great and is well balanced for the pot plant. I can post everything that is in it if you guys want. i will know after work today. I strongly suggest buying one of these units/foliar feed it helps immensly. I also use no nuts except this and superthrive

Very interesting, mate. How much did you pay for the Sonic Bloom package?
You got some pretty nice looking plant there

~Dug

[Wrex]

Well actually it was an item i aquired through one of my bosses so i have no idea i can do some quick research for ya but i know it is a specialty item. Completely organic foliar spray. Crap i was gonna write down what was in it but i forgot haha. ill just get it tomorrow =P. But just google Sonic Bloom and you should find something. i think i am going to ramp up the foliar feeds to two times a week since im runnin 24/7 light cycle.

[Dug]

Originally Posted by Wrex

Well actually it was an item i aquired through one of my bosses so i have no idea i can do some quick research for ya but i know it is a specialty item. Completely organic foliar spray. Crap i was gonna write down what was in it but i forgot haha. ill just get it tomorrow =P. But just google Sonic Bloom and you should find something. i think i am going to ramp up the foliar feeds to two times a week since im runnin 24/7 light cycle.

If its organic then I don't think you'll have any problems. But what about the sounds, mate?
Are they audible? Can you hear anything? birds singing and shit? That's what I read on their site. So they are stimulating growth by jubjecting the plants to sounds similar to those that are heard during the spring?

Tell me something more about the specifics of the sounds please.


~Dug.

[Wrex]

Yes they use the frequencies of those birds but it does not sound like that they just play all the tones together as one sound. We as humans can distinguish it but the plants do not. That in turn makes the plants open it pours to absorb the due that would usually collect in the morning. They tell you to play it 45min before and 45 min after the feeding so that the plant absorbs all the nutrients.

[Dug]

Thanks for the reps and good words, mates. It's really good to know that people are interested in new things, willing to explore new possibilities.

Keep in touch, I'm currently experimenting some more with a new technique, which, at least for me, has done a huge difference in the way I grow. More info in a new thread soon to be posted.

Keep a child's perspective to new things, as a sceptisist's trojan horse.

Hell,

Originally Posted by Laocoön the Stoner;

Fear the growers, novelty bearing...

Talk about a good metaphor.^^

Thanks again.

~Dug

[Mr. Mojorising]

Interesting stuff. I wonder what the frequency of a utra sonic humidifier is perhaps the transducder could be place in the resivor on a deep water culture/aero unt the enegery should radeiate(sp) up the plants roorts. I would be cheap and easy to try. Ultra sonic cleaners may also worth looking into.
I am not a electronics expert but I have worker as a tech for over tw enty years and have lots of experance with RF antennas, satellite (TV) CATV systems as well. I can not do any experements of this nature at this time(to busy with other important issues). So please keep updating your finding if you try this. I look forward to investigating this myself hopefully in the not to distant future.

PS Dug check out the (edit)if you have not already. I have been a memember since it inception. PM me if you join i will let you know my handle over there.
Cheers

[Dug]

Originally Posted by smoove

Here's a somewhat related article you may or may not have already read.

Smoove, mate, this article that you found has opened a whole new world to our experiment. Thanks.

Here are some interesting points, just to illustrate its significance to those bored to read it all.

"What is particularly interesting is what happens when at the moment when the amino-acid brought by its tRNA is being hooked onto the ribosome. Something happens that Joel Sternheimer discovered, namely that the amino-acid at that moment emits a signal. This signal is a wave of quantum nature which is precisely called a scaling wave. This means that it connects different scales together and more particularly the scale of each amino-acid to the scale of the processing protein. This signal has a certain frequency and a certain wavelength."

A sound, mates! A sound is emited from the very core elements of an organism, every time a part of a protein is being constructed! Interesting enough fact on its own, but lets take a look at some other points, too. It gets better! ^^

"The protein melodies or proteodies we can hear acoustically are transpositions 76 octaves down of the quantum melodies of proteins. When organisms, whatever plants or animals, listen to the melody of a protein transposed, a resonance phenomenon occurs, which is scale resonance and will stimulate or inhibit, in case of phase opposition, the corresponding protein synthesis."

Now, offcourse he meant that they are transpositions 76 octaves up, not down, we all do stoner mistakes. What this means, however, is that by finding out the resonance frequency of a protein, we can stimulate or inhibit its synthesis. It means that we can directly impact the physiology of plants using sounds! This is the key to explain why our ultrasonic frequencies have had these effects on our trees!

I've been diving in texts and articles concerning these things, for the past week or so. Molecular biology is no easy subject, and I really hope I don't get to a point where my will for knowledge is dwarfed by the nessecity for academic studies in order to further proceed.

I know it's a long shot, but if any of you mates has an academic background in one of the fields concerning this experiment, your contribution would be priceless.

Here are the things I have dwelved into so far, apart from the things mentioned in previous posts.

a)Finding an exact list of the proteins synthesized within the cannabis plant's ribosome, and their specific functions. A long, cumbersome process. Also, their structure. This is needed for (b).

b)Algorithms for calculating the resonance frequency of microscale particles, depending on their structure.

c)Theoretic harmony. I need to have a way firmer grip on the notions concerning music and sound in general.

d)Funding this experiment. I need to get a larger plant population under experimental observation. Space is really an issue here, and sound is not something which has only localized effects. A sound signal can easily bathe all my house plants in the same frequency, spoiling the objectivity of the different experimental observations.
So a larger space is needed, with isolated chambers.
Also, the equipment for measuring and emiting specific frequencies is ridiculusly expensive. Not sure why. But it seriously impairs my process. I don't live in a place where cultivating cannabis plants is easy, so for obvious reasons I cannot set up any funding plan. I'm stuck on this one. Any idea would be really appreciated. I mean it.


As you can see, mates, there is a lot to be done here, and there are some problems that must be overcome.

Once again, I strongly encourage anyone willing to spend some time exploring these exciting possibilities to do so, and share any findings here so that we, as a whole, will get a better spherical understanding on the specifics of this project.

Just imagine the possibilities. What if we could, in some time, produce results that would change the way we grow alltogether? Some of the things that may very well come out of this, as illutstrated in previous posts and sources cited within this thread, are more rapid growth, tighter nodes, less vulnerability to draught, higher resistance to diseases, higher potency in desired components, and even direct control on veg/flowering phases, by controlling the synhtesis of the respective proteins.

Although a few of these results have been already achieved with epxeriments utilizing sound waves, the majority of them is still theory. There is a lot of work that needs to be done, and every little idea, every thought, really counts.

I have just ordered 1500 seeds of Phalaris Arundinacea, in order to secure a good sized plant population upon which I can experiment faster, as these plants have a very rapid growth. There is also another reason I chose this species, as some of you may very well know, but its outside the scope of this thread. Mr Mojorising can elaborate a little bit more on this subject, I'm sure.

Keep in touch, I'll keep you posted on the latest progress.

Originally Posted by Mr. Mojorising

PS Dug check out the DMT NEXUS if you have not already. I have been a memember since it inception. PM me if you join i will let you know my handle over there.
Cheers

I've been a silent reader there for quite some time, mate, excellent forum. Maybe it is time for me to join, see you around the hyperspace boards, friend. Thanks for your post, interesting ideas.


Take care, guys. See you on the flip side..

~Dug

[Dug]

Originally Posted by Mr. Mojorising

PS Dug check out the DMT NEXUS if you have not already. I have been a memember since it inception. PM me if you join i will let you know my handle over there.Cheers

SWIM joined the nexus mate!

[GorillaFarmer]

id like to see a side by side in two tents. If you do produce more lanky plants, this could actually be a benefit for scrog growers like myself. Would be able to cut down on veg time.


It says the radishes basically got ripe weeks before the others. I wonder what this would do to the ripening time of ganja. Take a 8 week cycle and make it 5. Take a 2 month veg and turn it into 1. You got my hooked. Subscribed!


Good work for surfacing this knowledge dug.

[Dug]

Originally Posted by GorillaFarmer

Good work for surfacing this knowledge dug.

Thanks mate, appreciated.

I got a friend of mine, biologist, to look some more into this, as an oppinion coming from an academic environment will be priceless indeed. Maybe she will provide me with some much needed info about the way things work deep down there.


And...

Good news!

I've been recently contacted by an individual willing to further our experiments on a WAY bigger population of plants than the one I currently have. Also, he has dwelved into some even more radical techniques, and this is a good opportunity to push a bit further the borders of this experiment's scope. He suggested a collaboration of some sort, so we will be able to do some parallel expansion of our knowledge.

I am really glad to see that more people are interested in techniques that are still experimental. Truth be told, I strongly believe that it is individuals like us who are in the frontline of plant growing techniques exporation. Mainstream growers, researchers and companies rarely have the ability to dwelve into this sort of work.

I really hope that more and more people will be open to new suggestions.

Keep in touch.
~Dug

[Mr. Mojorising]

Interseting update. I wonder if the resonate frequencences that effect the protien systhesis are the same for all plants. I would suspect not because the mass and shape of the protien would effect is resonate frequency. Just like a tuning fork of differente sizes and weight wll resonate at different frequencies even though they were struck or stimulated by the same frequiency. As the wave travels we are also dealing with harmonics mulitplying expodentually. Thats what comes to my mind but I am not a expert some one correct me if I am wrong in all or parts.

Also since we are dealing with quantum events here ie a wave. Since waves and particles seem to be able to change into to each other depending upon how they they are observed this may also play a into this experement. As Einstien said Spooky.

Also I have no ideal what freq. we are dealing with but a under water transducer at a low amplitude placed in a liquid (resivor of deep water culture) most likley yery little should be transmitted thru the air outside the liquid. This may enable one to contain the ultrasound in the liquid with out contaminating the air around allowing one to run experemenst with close proxcimity to one another. sorry about the spelling but im in a rush


Cheers