Bubble bucket hydro method 101

[op8man]

I tryed the bubblebuckets and liked it. Simple and straight forward. But I have to admit that my airo setup is even easier and I got better growth with it. I really like it. It is very similiar to the unit shown in april Cannabas Culture Magazine. "How to Build a Aeroponic Unit" except I used 9 inch instead of 6 inch......excellent instructions and I recommend it for a person handy with a hammer.

[zen_420]

Originally Posted by froggy

id like to spit out a few comments.

first...this sounds like fun. love to see ppl doing new grow methods.

seems like alot of work. certainly not for the novice grower. one little mistake and ur plant is toast.

which brings me to the question, what kind of growth increase are we talking about? 90 -120 days in soil gets me 1.5oz grow. i would hope for the work involved, u can speed that time up by??? 10% ? 20%?

which brings me to the maturity question, are they as 'full bodied' at that same age?

which brings me to my last question, what about taste? seems to me that it would take quite a few grows of the same variety for u to get ur food dialed in.

anyhow, again sounds like fun and maybe ill have to give it a whorl sometime.

BPP; excellent thread, i will try this method when I get more grow experience. This is a little off topic, but I just wanted to ask Froggy a question about his yield; you said that you got 1.5oz in 3-4 months, I have a buddy who used to grow soil who got 4oz/plant, in that smame time frame, and he kept his plants small (indoor)...??? Do you just keep your plants very small or what? Because I thought most plants averaged a higher yield than that? Thanks.

[waddo]

Bubble Buckets work great... They grow fast and well if you look after them properly...

zen_420: yield really depends on experience of the growe, strain and conditions....

[BU5T4THEJOCK]

Hi Folks,

I recently built my bubble bucket system that is located in a enclosed cupboard in spare room in my house. It all seems to be setup properly and I got the nutes added without too much confusion. The ph is a little alkaline but I am using a liquid ph tester so don't really know how accurate that is.

I have a 400 watt hid lamp and the whole space is mylar'd up with silver mylar.

I germinated a couple of seeds in damp tissue paper for a few days and the seeds cracked and the root came out. I then soaked a couple of rockwool cubes in some water over night and then made sure they were not sodden with water. I then put the seeds in to the two rockwool cubes about the seeds hight below the surface and covered them up being careful not to damage the root whch was pointing down the way.

I then put the two cubes at the bottom of my hydropot and filled in the space around it with clay pebbles.

I then put the pot into the bubbler with the water/nute solution with the level just below the pot with the bubbles popping below and spraying up some solution onto the bottom of the pot.

I put my light on and sealed up the closet, I checked each day and made sure not too much water was evaporating but the seedlings didn't grow any more.

So I wasn't sure what the problem was but after reading about lots of sites I think it may be that the room was too hot (not enough air circulation). When I opened it up it wasnt really that hot. My lizard tanks are hotter and they only use 100 watt bulbs to heat them.

So this time I want to do it right as I only have a few seeds left.

So far I have germinated another seed in tissue again in my cupboard in my bedroom which is dark and warm. This time round I put the seed in the rockwool and left it in the cupboard and I know have a little shoot with two little leaves and another couple of tiny leaves just inside these leaves.

The thing i'm scared about is putting this in the room with the lamp and killing it. Do you guys think my problem could be the heat? or lack of air circulation?

I have a fan (small office type fan) in the room which blows onto the top of the bubbler and there is a small gap along the top between the door and the top shelve that the lamp hangs from that lets any excess heat escape from the room. As I said the room doesn't seem too hot.

I'm going to put the light on tomorrow without the plant in it and measure the temps to see what they go up to.

Any ideas where I could be going wrong? Did I just put the first seeds in too early before they had the little leaves on it? and will it just kill my new seedling if I put it in the grow room now?

Any help would be great.

here's a picture of the new seedling, I'll put some pics of the setup up soon.



I have never grown like this before so i'm a bit of a noob but I have grown in soil before with natural light not very successfully I may add but it still managed to get to a few feet tall.

Looking at the size of some of you guys plants after just a few weeks amazes me, that little seedling can get so big in such a short space of time?

[Rumpleforeskin]

Keep it under a florescent lamp until you get roots showing outside the rock wool.

Now it's time to put the sprout in the main grow area under the grow lamp of your choice. Until you have roots below your basket, keep the lamp higher then normal.

Remove half the hydrotron pebbles from a mesh basket that fits your bubbler. Place the cube and sprout into the basket. Fill the basket to incase the rock wool cube.

Bring your bubbler's nutrient level to just touch the bottom of the mesh basket. The level depends on how much bubbles you have, so some setups with low air pressure you might have to bring the level to 1/4"- 1/2" above the bottom of the basket. The key is to check on it a few times the first 24 hours.

Before walking way, fill a glass with nutrient and wet the pebbles and rock wool real good.

Your nutrient should be 50% veg.

When you see roots coming out of the basket, drop the nutrient level to 1" below the bottom of the basket. Maintain this level throughout your grow.

Change the nutrient to 100% veg. and finish your veg cycle.

[BU5T4THEJOCK]

Cheers mate your a star!!!

I will do that, my mate has just cropped his first ever grow which was grown under florescent and with soil. He only got about 1oz worth of bud though so he is going to give me his florescent lamp to use for this. It's sitting on my window sill just now and we have some lovely Scottish weather just now so i'm sure it will be fine till tommorrow.

Thanks so much for the help, i'll try out your tips.

I use a two part multi nute that i got from growell so i should just use quarter of the amount required for a litre and then just use some of the water from the solution made up to water it while its in the cube?

Cheers buddy

[BU5T4THEJOCK]

Got the florescent tube in to my grow room and have that on 24/7 seems to be doing the trick. I now have four little leaves. Two rounded ones and two little jaggy ones.

How long does it normally take for the roots to start showing through the bottom of the small rock wool cubes?

Amazing how much the seedling can move during the day. I have the florescent tube to the left of my room as its too big to run across the top and the seedling moves the head of it too point to the light and ends up bending the stock so i turn it round and next time i check it has bent itself all the way round again to the light. It amazes me

[hammeron]

Check out this link for building a BB

http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...step-step.html

[Coagsy]

Originally Posted by Big Poppa Puff

Its been a while since anyone has asked. Is there any interest out there on how to grow hydro by the bubble bucket method?

I would just as soon do this one time and then make this a sticky at the top of the forum.

Hi i would like to know roughly how much less nutrients should i use as i have been told that you MUST use less than stated on bottle is that right? i have a 20litre bubbler with the IONIC grow,bloom and boost also cannazyme,superthrive and pk1314 would really like some help on this as i want good results.

[Ussor]

Ok so i have the above mentioned system, comes with all you need pots are 15lts per peice(5 gls i think) and the Resivor is 100ltr. It also comes with a 550lt per hr air pump, 6 airstones and all the pipe, airline and conncetions you need.

So i got it set up no problmes, (6 was too big for my space if i wanted to be able to move in there so i reduced to 4). I had to build the float from the parts which again was no problem, the problem is the water in the pots and head tank only fill maybe 2/3 or the way full. leaving at least 6 inc between the next pots and the water.

I spoke to the fella in the shop, and told him my problem, he said he will send me a 1500lt per hr pump and 4 bigger, pond style air stones, Hopefull this will crated enough splash for the water to reach the next pots. Additionaly i can top up the pots manualy to get water level higher if need be.

My main question is i have sorta decided that this system isnt great for plants under 2 weeks old, I was thinking start the seeds in a propagation tank in some rockwool, then when the root starts to bust through the rockwool, transplant into the DWC.

If i choose to do this would a tank and rockwool be all i need to get, or am i making things to complictaed.

This is my first hydro grow and although i have grown with vemiculate and perlite before never with anything that envolved this much water. better just mention i use Feminized seeds so i dont need to worry about sex.

[ocitown]

Most all threads about BB will say to wait to use them after the cubes have well developed roots,so yes root em well then add em to the BB system,and the more air (surface area agitated) the better o2 exchange and the happier your girls will be.

Originally Posted by Ussor

Ok so i have the above mentioned system, comes with all you need pots are 15lts per peice(5 gls i think) and the Resivor is 100ltr. It also comes with a 550lt per hr air pump, 6 airstones and all the pipe, airline and conncetions you need.

So i got it set up no problmes, (6 was too big for my space if i wanted to be able to move in there so i reduced to 4). I had to build the float from the parts which again was no problem, the problem is the water in the pots and head tank only fill maybe 2/3 or the way full. leaving at least 6 inc between the next pots and the water.

I spoke to the fella in the shop, and told him my problem, he said he will send me a 1500lt per hr pump and 4 bigger, pond style air stones, Hopefull this will crated enough splash for the water to reach the next pots. Additionaly i can top up the pots manualy to get water level higher if need be.

My main question is i have sorta decided that this system isnt great for plants under 2 weeks old, I was thinking start the seeds in a propagation tank in some rockwool, then when the root starts to bust through the rockwool, transplant into the DWC.

If i choose to do this would a tank and rockwool be all i need to get, or am i making things to complictaed.

This is my first hydro grow and although i have grown with vemiculate and perlite before never with anything that envolved this much water. better just mention i use Feminized seeds so i dont need to worry about sex.

[420Grower420]

For you guys who say you cant get a seed up to medium sized plant in the bubble bucket.

I don't know if this would work just as good as using another system for the small plant until its more mature, but what I do is put my sprouts in the grow meduim and then slowly raise the ph accurate water until it is covering the small roots. As the plant starts to develope a strong root system, I then lower the water level to the normal size. I do not use rockwool so I do not know how this wil work for that, just seedling in the hydroton.

Also, i would like to note that I put my airstones directly under my netpots and i can see bubbles coming out of the top of the hydroton and touching ym seedling, I do this to make sure the little seedling doesnt drown!

Hope thsi helps someone : )

[nueb]

all I know is I looked at the thread in the indoor grow for a bubble bucket and then looked at this one and after seeing the list of items needed for the other one I decided this was much simpler thx 4 thread

[bboybang]

Originally Posted by Hitokage

When you start out with a seedling, what do you do until you put it into the net pots? Do you start out the seedling by putting it in a rockwool cube and misting it until it grows roots? Or do you just immediately put it in the bubbler with the seed. I'm confused as to what to do right after the seed germinates

since i have general hydroponics

i was wondering about this too...

[tintala]

I just purchased a water farm by GH, its got 8 bukcets and a res.. drip system everythign came with it! for only 300$ .. I will put this under a 1000w.. its just like what is described here.