Advanced nutrients Vs. General hydroponics

[Ekibiogami]

yeah i was really confused by his post... especially since it was like a few months after the discussion was taking place.. lol? maybe its like a marketing autobot.

edit: yeah i checked out his 4 posts and they are all super random and talking about nutes for humans.. wtf?

[ganjaganja]

yes it is a bit interesting....

[BCNeil]

Originally Posted by OshGoshKaBosh

Oh and another bullshit fact: GH: under a LB, and around 6% THC compared to AN: over 2 LB and over 20% THC...come on, genetics are supposed to be the same, we all know nutes dont make that huge a difference. If GH is so bad, why is it used successfully by so many growers?

Anyways, I don't want to take anything away from AN but I am disappointed they decided to make this public when it is obviously doctored.

I agree, I use AN products with no problem. However these claims of over double the yield of GH, and like almost 4 times the THC
I don't mind spending abit extra for nutes if they make up for it with yield, but comeon.

I am going to check things out for myself. I am starting a grow with 8 waterfarms.
I am going to sacrific 3 of them to test it out.

Bucket 1.......GH base nutrients only
Bucket 2.......AN base nutrients only (conneisure)
Bucket 3.......GH base nutrients along with a selection of AN additives.
Buckets 4-8.....AN base nutrients along with a selection of AN additives.

All will have the same clones, same pH, same light, same air, same water, same temp. I even plan to rotate the plants daily, so they each get equal lighting over their flowering life. I will make a journal too

[Ekibiogami]

Originally Posted by BCNeil

I agree, I use AN products with no problem. However these claims of over double the yield of GH, and like almost 4 times the THC
I don't mind spending abit extra for nutes if they make up for it with yield, but comeon.

I am going to check things out for myself. I am starting a grow with 8 waterfarms.
I am going to sacrific 3 of them to test it out.

Bucket 1.......GH base nutrients only
Bucket 2.......AN base nutrients only (conneisure)
Bucket 3.......GH base nutrients along with a selection of AN additives.
Buckets 4-8.....AN base nutrients along with a selection of AN additives.

All will have the same clones, same pH, same light, same air, same water, same temp. I even plan to rotate the plants daily, so they each get equal lighting over their flowering life. I will make a journal too

go for it! it will be interesting to see the results.. make sure to throw up the link to your grow journal in this thread!

[shanks]

i see you dont like dutch masters, i trust you have tried it before. if you have what didnt you like about it. i have compared the price of it to AN its at least half the price. with AN they have all these additives they encourage you to buy. i know the saying you get what you pay for. but by the same token generic asprin, is the exact same ingredients as bayer.
just an old stoner
the shankster

[Dewave]

I used several types and always come back to GH for it's ease of use and great yields. But what Ilike mostly is it's consistant results with each grow. I grow in coco which is considered hydro. And I trust the GH company that's been in the hydro business since the 1970's compared to AN's start in 1998.

If anyone is a fool enough to believe that GH doesn't know what their product line is being used for then I have some swamp land to sell ya.

AN is way over priced and gunks up hydro systems with sediment. GH Flora series and Kool bloom are 100% water soluble which makes clean up a breeze with minimal salt buildup.

To each his own just my .02 cents.

[BCNeil]

Originally Posted by Ekibiogami

go for it! it will be interesting to see the results.. make sure to throw up the link to your grow journal in this thread!

I will, currently I just got the clones going, will veg for about 3 weeks.
I didn't have any AN base nutes other that the conniesure (as its not recommended for veg).

So all 8 plants will be vegged using gh base nutrients. This way all plants should be similar right before flowering, so any variance can be observed easy.

[Aeroherbs]

Originally Posted by Ekibiogami

yeah i was really confused by his post... especially since it was like a few months after the discussion was taking place.. lol? maybe its like a marketing autobot.

Yeah, it just homed in on the mention of nutrition/nutrients and went to town. I don't know how they work for sure, but it would seem simple enough to automate something like that. Bastards. The least they could do is send a guy to advertise. Still annoying that way but at least you get the personal touch. Hehe.

Originally Posted by BCNeil

Bucket 1.......GH base nutrients only
Bucket 2.......AN base nutrients only (conneisure)
Bucket 3.......GH base nutrients along with a selection of AN additives.
Buckets 4-8.....AN base nutrients along with a selection of AN additives.

All will have the same clones, same pH, same light, same air, same water, same temp. I even plan to rotate the plants daily, so they each get equal lighting over their flowering life. I will make a journal too

Sounds awesome, please send me a link when you do that so I don't miss it!

[shanks]

Originally Posted by OshGoshKaBosh

I've never tried Dutch Masters. But I don't know if that question was directed to me.

to osh gosh,
i apologize i didnt mean to ask you the question. i just dont know how to send a direct message to a person . i am still new to this format

have a nice day

the shankster

[Aeroherbs]

You guys seen the latest?

It was on PR Web but it's gone now. There's a copy of the press release on Cannabis Culture Magazine's website, but they cheated and changed it so it doesn't mention General Hydroponics (makes you wonder if maybe that has something to do with why the original version isn't on PR Web anymore.)

Here's the CC link - Giant Bud Banner Half the Size of Football Field Flies over the San Francisco Bay | Cannabis Culture Magazine

And a link to some videos by Advanced Nutrients - The Growers Underground - Bigger Buds For The Plants You Grow, Join The Nutrient Revolution

Pretty cool if you ask me.

[Wharfrat74]

LOL the GU is a AN enterprise.. anything said there is gonna be one sided.....but like I said about the vid for a million bucks .. if "big mike" would just spend that in samples for us growers.. he might get some more growers..but how many orders is that hellie and sign costing...or how many orders is gonna take him to recoupe his loss if he does lose the million dollar bet.. better to just hand the savings down instead of being the most spendy and loudest guy in town.


my .02

[octogontom1]

House and Garden has the best base nutrients period. If you havent used em i really recommed it. Use some fulvc/humic acid with it during veg. When flowering i use budswell for flavor/taste enhancer. Shooting powder by HG is the best potassium/phosphorus boost, ive used em all and this shit is phenominal!

Bud Candy from AN is a good new product too! I hate advanced but this stuff rules!

Also Dutch master is the shit. Liquid Light and Penetrator, Excellent! Use Foliech to shorten internodes.

[jonnyplayer]

do what we do in humboldt
cuttingedgesolutions.org/

[hydrocult]

I think everyone can agree that Growers Underground doesn't try to hide the fact that it's backed by Advanced Nutrients. It's obvious enough that no one isn't aware of that.

So yes, it presents things from a certain point of view but no one is truly unbiased. It's the people who want me to think that they're unbiased I distrust the most. At least with the ones that are up front with it you know for sure what their motive is.

I like Advanced Nutrients but like anyone else who does I'm not foolish enough to believe everything they say just because they say it. You take it all with a grain of salt. When they say this or that is the best thing on the market I'm inclined to think they're right, but I wait until I've tried it myself to make up my mind.

Keeping an open mind means being open to the possibility that they're telling the truth OR not until you have hard evidence to base a decision on.

[Motherhugger]

Originally Posted by hydrocult

I think everyone can agree that Growers Underground doesn't try to hide the fact that it's backed by Advanced Nutrients. It's obvious enough that no one isn't aware of that.

So yes, it presents things from a certain point of view but no one is truly unbiased. It's the people who want me to think that they're unbiased I distrust the most. At least with the ones that are up front with it you know for sure what their motive is.

I like Advanced Nutrients but like anyone else who does I'm not foolish enough to believe everything they say just because they say it. You take it all with a grain of salt. When they say this or that is the best thing on the market I'm inclined to think they're right, but I wait until I've tried it myself to make up my mind.

Keeping an open mind means being open to the possibility that they're telling the truth OR not until you have hard evidence to base a decision on.

Thank you for saying this. I get so frustrated sometimes when I read these forums and see that people go after various companies (a lot of it directed at Advanced Nutrients for some reason...) because they're trying to make a buck. Um, I don't know about anyone else, but I know I need to make money in order to pay my bills - and so do all of these companies.

Everyone wants you to buy their products, so it's up to the consumer to spend some time researching the products, trying them out for themselves, and, honestly, take everything everyone says with a grain of salt. Some people out here are giving great advice, but when it comes to nutes, it seems that everyone has their own opinion.

And that's cool too.