Advanced nutrients Vs. General hydroponics

[ocitown]

Originally Posted by ganjaganja

yes it was developed for mj specific, and i like that....but i just found out that when AN connoisseur first came out they recalled the hell outta it caused it killed a lot of people's plants but when i try to find info, their is not that much. Either im looking in the wrong places or its a little suspect...anyone know more???

I was explained that AN also had another product which was killing plants (Sensizyme)which was pulled/recalled and the hydro shop guy tried to steer me from the AN line(i felt he just wanted me to buy his recommendations(proly more profit in it for him)never did find anything substatiating this either and still use the sensi but have since changed to Multizyme($40 a quart)

Originally Posted by ganjaganja

i see...
i am now using botanicare pure blend pro grow with liquid karma.
my plants are about 2 and a half weeks-3week old

are their any super benificial nutes/suppliments from AN that would make a big difference during the veg stage? I do haqve sum more cash lying around for the grow and if there is something I could get nute wise to beef things up im all about it

Look into rooting with Pirhana for the 1st 2 weeks (dump it after that)while also using ANs B-52 through all weeks of the grow till one week prior to the flushing.7-5ml per gal in veg and 4-6.5ml in flower,starting at the lowest and working up through the grow.

[NorcoFiend]

general hydroponics. period. all you will ever need, and some mag pro (by dyno gro) for magnesium. this stuff is tried and true, everyone is so cali and san diego who smoked the best stuff down here for the last 10 years can attribute. 1000s of lbs and not once a problem with that stuff....never tried advanced nutrients but never needed to, look up my yields in the other posts and decide for yourselves, ill put my records against anyones and it was all done with general hydro. gl

[Aeroherbs]

Originally Posted by ganjaganja

are their any super benificial nutes/suppliments from AN that would make a big difference during the veg stage? I do haqve sum more cash lying around for the grow and if there is something I could get nute wise to beef things up im all about it

Not so much during veg... best thing to do there is to just dial your nutes in perfect and work on more light, CO2, stuff like that.

Besides that you could try some Piranha or Voodoo Juice, both should supercharge your roots which will pay off most in flowering.

[ocitown]

Originally Posted by ganjaganja

i see...
i am now using botanicare pure blend pro grow with liquid karma.
my plants are about 2 and a half weeks-3week old

are their any super benificial nutes/suppliments from AN that would make a big difference during the veg stage? I do haqve sum more cash lying around for the grow and if there is something I could get nute wise to beef things up im all about it

I would say use ANs B-52 throughout,i find it does make a dif. in veg.

[Klutter]

Here's what I'm really wondering though - as I have never tried the AN line of products.

First off - I dont think I have ever seen such a HUGE media hype effort as what I've seen for AN. This is either because they are dumping money in marketing, or the shit is the nector of baby Jesus himself.


My question though is: It looks to me as though AN is some of the most complicated mixes around, requiring quite a few different 'additives' and 'core' nutrient suppliments just to create the ideal environment for the plants.... am I wrong in that observation?

If not - how could anyone ever want to use this stuff? I mean the chance of failure increases rapidly each time a new item is added into a rez just trying to dial it in... with so many different things needing to be added, it's like a setup to burn the fuck outta the plants.... or no?

[ocitown]

Originally Posted by Klutter

Here's what I'm really wondering though - as I have never tried the AN line of products.

First off - I dont think I have ever seen such a HUGE media hype effort as what I've seen for AN. This is either because they are dumping money in marketing, or the shit is the nector of baby Jesus himself.


My question though is: It looks to me as though AN is some of the most complicated mixes around, requiring quite a few different 'additives' and 'core' nutrient suppliments just to create the ideal environment for the plants.... am I wrong in that observation?

If not - how could anyone ever want to use this stuff? I mean the chance of failure increases rapidly each time a new item is added into a rez just trying to dial it in... with so many different things needing to be added, it's like a setup to burn the fuck outta the plants.... or no?

I can see your point BUT,remember they started this with scientists who were growing OUR plant and many strains in many dif environments and most of the sups dont have high ionic salt content which would burn plants.

They also have a direct phone # and are willing to talk about MJ (I would think)and you climate,grow environment anr strain etc. to set you up with their very extensive (and expensive line)BUT also remember they unlike others (even says on their bottles)give an unconditional money back guarantee.

I use 9 products and have been growing for only a year with the same regiment and ALL my grows were huge and disputed by some in JCJ77Ds thread as you can see,my new hydro is two weeks away from harvest and my colas are 14-23" long and some will be 5" round as i will show in my journal soon.

Baby jesus blood man!

[IMgreen]

what new hydro??

[ocitown]

Originally Posted by IMgreen

what new hydro??

Read the link on post #2,nothing new just some info bro.

Remember my AN soup resipe?

[Aeroherbs]

Originally Posted by ocitown

I would say use ANs B-52 throughout,i find it does make a dif. in veg.

True, I didn't think of that.

Originally Posted by Klutter

I dont think I have ever seen such a HUGE media hype effort as what I've seen for AN.

People keep saying that. Where are these ads? I've never seen any media for Advanced Nutrients. Where is it?

Originally Posted by Klutter

If not - how could anyone ever want to use this stuff? I mean the chance of failure increases rapidly each time a new item is added into a rez just trying to dial it in... with so many different things needing to be added, it's like a setup to burn the fuck outta the plants.... or no?

If you follow the nutrient calculator you aren't generally going to run into problems, especially if you're paranoid like me and run it a bit lower just to be safe (which I do regardless of whose product I'm using, btw).

You don't have to use the entire line-up, either. It's really not that complicated anyway. It just can seem like that at first, but once you've mixed a couple resses it's no biggie.

BTW, don't talk about MJ with the Advanced Nutrients Tech Support guys. They're supposed to hang up on you if you say that's what you're growing, to cover their butts from a legal standpoint. If they ask what you're growing just say tomatoes or that you'd rather not say. They can get in trouble for specifically giving you advice on growing weed because there's a lot of nazis that would love to bust AN for giving advice to pot growers.

[ocitown]

I just LOVE growing huge TOMATOES.

[IMgreen]

Originally Posted by ocitown

I just LOVE growing huge TOMATOES.

you and me both oci!


AN does a lot of product placements on weeds (the showtime show)

[Ekibiogami]

Originally Posted by ganjaganja

http://www.marijuanafertilizers.com/...xperiment.html

comparison..........

that was a sweet read! I'm still skeptical that it wasn't biased or anything. Also maybe different strains like AV more or less? im not sure.

[Aeroherbs]

Originally Posted by IMgreen

AN does a lot of product placements on weeds (the showtime show)

Yeah, I seen that but what else? I haven't seen anything else to suggest this giant media thing people complain about.


Also, one of the bigwigs at Advanced Nutrients did a ton of consulting on the show for season 2 or something like that. I read an article about it a few months back but I don't remember the details. It was all about how one of the founders of AN was asked to come in and help them make the show more realistic and how he basically showed them how to build a real hydroponic system with all the controls and so on. Top rate stuff.

Oh, and it mentioned how they had all these high-end fake plants made up to simulate all the stages of growth so that it would look like the crop was maturing, since they can't exactly grow weed on the set just as a prop.

So maybe AN gets product placement in exchange for the help they gave the show? I dunno, but I doubt they're really shelling out for that anyway.

[Rosannabuz]

Hi

Take your vitamins and supplements with meals and water, these supplements help to restore nutritional balance. I have been taking advanced liquid nutrients for a number of years; get into the habit of taking these vital nutrients daily, a healthy body is worth it!

Starting a program of taking vitamins is a personal matter and is up to you to decide. To have a healthy diet you need to realize that small changes can lead to great results and advanced nutrition.

Choose whole fresh foods and some liquid nutrient food which gives you more energy for our body..Hope this helps you better..

Thanks..

[ganjaganja]

Originally Posted by Rosannabuz

Hi

Take your vitamins and supplements with meals and water, these supplements help to restore nutritional balance. I have been taking advanced liquid nutrients for a number of years; get into the habit of taking these vital nutrients daily, a healthy body is worth it!

Starting a program of taking vitamins is a personal matter and is up to you to decide. To have a healthy diet you need to realize that small changes can lead to great results and advanced nutrition.

Choose whole fresh foods and some liquid nutrient food which gives you more energy for our body..Hope this helps you better..

Thanks..

hahahahahahaha is anyone else confused by this stoners rant about body health?

I think your on the wrong website Rosanabudz.

hahahahahahahahhahahahaha nice link by the way!