Hydroponics

[NtothePtotheK]

Originally posted by unoit
Now it doesn't matter which way you grow your still going to need the timers, power of coarse.

Most people already have a wristwatch or alarm clock, and a finger capable of flipping a switch, therefore most people already have a timer And power, yes, but less power and less wires if you ONLY have lights, vs. lights, timers, pumps, negative ion dispensers, c02 generators and all that other fun stuff. It's not cheap, it's not necessary.

As for adjusting nutes...nope not with me. I use Nutrilife and it's good till the next change.

True, but the stuff ain't cheap OR easy to find (offline). Atleast not in my location. I for one am also not thrilled about ordering too many hydroponic growing supplies to my home address, using my real name and credit card.

To be fair, though, I'll reform my statement. MAKING (and testing, adjusting, etc.) your own nutrient solution isn't easy, lots of trial and error, error = wasted money and effort (which goes against the objectives of the post).

When I clean my buckets it's too easy...rinse, rinse...when you do yours bring out the bleach and go to "work".

You win this round! It is tedious.

Of coarse each to their own..but you can't tell me it's easier and cheaper....ever hand water 50 plants it takes time.

You make another good point, but you almost made mine, too. If you're growing 50 plants then the last thing you need is advice on the cheapest or easiest way to get started as a grower - you probably already know what anyone on this board could tell you and more

For the startup grower, I still think it's easier to get into soil-rooted growing and work your way up to something more advanced like pure hydroponics. But of course this is also my opinion - and if there were more readily available guides for homebrewing a cheap, complete hydroponic system without too many variables, it might change my mind. My concern is chiefly with people interested in hydroponics who may be confused by all the different choices and factors involved. A simpler hybridized soil setup is a bit more forgiving of n00b error. As a n00b I completely messed up hydroponics and wasted a lot of money, and by the time I knew all the things I was doing wrong, I realized I didn't want to work that hard anyway! But I've kept most of the ideas I liked and applied them to potted plants.

Like you said, to each their own

[unoit]

Originally posted by NtothePtotheK
Most people already have a wristwatch or alarm clock, and a finger capable of flipping a switch, therefore most people already have a timer

HIGH All, done it did it won't do it anymore...some people can't be in their rooms when it's time to change or flip the switch. Miss a couple by hours each day/week will stress plants when 12/12. Sorry too much of a pain...timers are the answer.

And power, yes, but less power and less wires if you ONLY have lights, vs. lights, timers, pumps

These are in my room..do you know how much power 3 air pumps suck...not much my friend. Wires in the way...nope!!

negative ion dispensers, c02 generators and all that other fun stuff. It's not cheap, it's not necessary.

Agree...not necessary.

True, but the stuff ain't cheap OR easy to find (offline). Atleast not in my location. I for one am also not thrilled about ordering too many hydroponic growing supplies to my home address, using my real name and credit card.

Yup not cheap...that's why I grow great Buds. No online buying for me!!

To be fair, though, I'll reform my statement. MAKING (and testing, adjusting, etc.) your own nutrient solution isn't easy, lots of trial and error, error = wasted money and effort (which goes against the objectives of the post).

Follow the directions= easy.

You win this round! It is tedious.

You make another good point, but you almost made mine, too. If you're growing 50 plants then the last thing you need is advice on the cheapest or easiest way to get started as a grower - you probably already know what anyone on this board could tell you and more

For the startup grower, I still think it's easier to get into soil-rooted growing and work your way up to something more advanced like pure hydroponics. But of course this is also my opinion - and if there were more readily available guides for homebrewing a cheap, complete hydroponic system without too many variables, it might change my mind. My concern is chiefly with people interested in hydroponics who may be confused by all the different choices and factors involved. A simpler hybridized soil setup is a bit more forgiving of n00b error. As a n00b I completely messed up hydroponics and wasted a lot of money, and by the time I knew all the things I was doing wrong, I realized I didn't want to work that hard anyway! But I've kept most of the ideas I liked and applied them to potted plants.

Like you said, to each their own

Yes I do agree if you've never grown a thing before go soil or a soilless mix. It's just Hydro's not as hard as people make it out to be.

So after having a few grows under your belt would you go back again?

[NtothePtotheK]

Yeah, I am going to start some White Cow (White Widow derivative, hardier strain) for the next round... Since I already have the know how and some of the equipment, and some money this time, and it's good bud, I might just get a little fancy with it. What's on deck right now are bagseed that me and my friends affectionately refer to as "crack weed" with a very potent but sloppy high.. I can't wait to test the final product and see if it's an improvement... well I already know it will be.. no seeds! XD

-N2P2K

[unoit]

HIGH All, White Cow from CannabiSeeds.net. There White Widow Crystal+ is worth it...going to try the Lord#1 next go maybe.

[zootallures]

how do i keep a perpetual hydroponic garden going and how easy is it URGENT!!!!!!!!!!!

[NtothePtotheK]

Originally posted by zootallures
how do i keep a perpetual hydroponic garden going and how easy is it URGENT!!!!!!!!!!!

There is nothing URGENT!!!!!!!!!!! about undertaking a 3-4 month project which involves caring for the health of living beings in order to achieve any kind of success. You need to slow down and educate yourself. You can't grow a pot plant overnight and you can't learn how to grow it overnight, either.

[unoit]

HIGH All, couldn't have put it better. read, read, read and when you thought you read everything...read some more.

[NtothePtotheK]

ATTN: I am changing my recommendation on something

Earlier in this thread, after discussion about it, I mentioned that I still think nutrient-enhanced potting soil is good for starting plants. That has been MY experience, and YES I have had problems because of the same soil later on. But I have since heard more than one person tell me the OPPOSITE: nutrient enhanced soil has been known to cause problems with seedlings and cuttings [also mentioned was that it might be ok to add later in the plant's life]. Although new soil shouldn't become potentially dangerous for atleast a couple weeks, I would now recommend playing it safe rather than be sorry.

This just goes to further show that the results of using nutrient enriched soil as your primary medium is unpredictable at best and herbicidal at worst. There are enough unpredictable things to worry about, being a grower

That's all I wanted to say! Hey hey! - N to the P to the K

[MasterWidow]

people make growing MJ so complicated all you really need is llight, dirt, water, seeds. I mean MJ plants r just PLANTS! sense when does your mother grow her rose bush in perfectly balanced soil? so all im saying is before everyone goes all complicated how bought you just start at the basics and work your way up from there? I mean its not rocket science if you dont want it to be! With alittle common sense you can grow a MJ plant!!!!(and succesfully at that)

[RookieGrower]

Hi hello everyone i'm new to this and also i've never grown nething : / but I plan to start growing some feminized Whire Widow seeds I was wondering which hydroponic system is best and if anyone could help me 1 on 1 with growing it thx.

[NtothePtotheK]

Bubble buckets (deep water culture). See the overgrow FAQ. You really might want to grow a round in soil first and get some experience before you gamble with your WW seeds.

[mejohnboy420]

Keep it up don't let people push u around keep it real and on the dl locally and maybe one day people like us will get weed legal!

Peace

[smokingreen]

hey, so im growing 16 plants in a hydro tank i have, with the small pots. and im using 250 watt hps lighting, probably mh for the veg. but i was wondering if anyone had any clue how long i can expect this to take for some good, really potent herb.
thanks

[WeFitPineSoFine]

No one has posted on this thread for a while, but I will still ask for help. I have only grown in soil once, but now I have moved so I won't freak out the whole growing process. Anyway, I've spent the last month gathering info on hydroponics and my budget is large enough for what I want. I have a ? on my lights. For veg. period would it be better to have a 400W hps or would one 600W hps work without damaging the plants? Also, I plan on flowering with 2 600W hps, which I know will work, so is it worth to get the extra 400W? I plan on using either an Aeroflo or AeroJet system. The other systems aren't as organized and clean as I like to be.

[WeFitPineSoFine]

nevermind I read up some more and went to buy the MH for veg. and the hps for veg. and flowering. I don't understand if the two types of lights use the same wattage then why are converters or different ballasts needed to run both?