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overgrowray · #1 (**permalink**) 08-31-2003, 06:21 PM

First off i have to say i'm sorry to everyone. I rarely have time to get online anymore. I'm very sorry i haven't been coming around. My sister lost her kids and we have them now, and there more than a handful. I was also on a rocky road with my girl, but thats all AOK now and i'm happy to say we got engaged on Aug 29th. I really wish i could be on the city like i used to, i feel really bad that i haven't been helping out.

In High Times Oct 2001 they talked about breeding female seeds. I heard of this before i found the article, but now i believe it will work. It just sounds too easy to be true in a way. But all female cannabis plants are born with the potential to be hermaphrodites as a safty factor(so the species can't die out). So if you have say a room full of known females, for the first three weeks of flowering you have the light on for a hour in the middle of the 12 hour dark period. Well the plants think there dieing out so one of the females grows a male branch, but since theres no males in the room theres no male chromosomes, so when the seeds produce theres no seeds with male chromosomes so theres going to be no male seeds. ... Well thats what i've read a few times, but i haven't gotten to try it yet. I would but right now i don't have anything indoors, and my electric is about to be turned off anyways because i'm broke. Has anyone else tried this or would like to, so we can find out if this is the true way. I know you can buy all female seeds, so there has to be a way to produce them and this is the best way i've heard so far.

gr0wer · #2 (**permalink**) 08-31-2003, 08:26 PM

Im sorry to hear of the hard times man at lest you willhave somebuds to fallbackonto to chill out

. About the femanized seeds, if you let the plants finish more they put out male pollen sacks that you can collect and use to polinate for femanized seeds. At lest thats what a high times article said. Im going to give it a try when i harvest by harvesting the main colas and leaving some of the lower colas to over ripen.

bubblegum_man20 · #3 (**permalink**) 08-31-2003, 08:42 PM

yep let them go as long as possible then harvest hang upside down to dry after two weeks look for male flowers (probaly only one) pick them and keep cool use on the next crop ,,,,thats what they say ,,, we will see ,,,,,,any form of stress can make a female produce male flowers ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,good luck

overgrowray · #4 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 05:38 AM

yeah i really want to try it now, it would be great to have all female seeds.

clonemeister · #5 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 07:20 AM

I have grown seed produced from stress induced herms several times and, it does work.The resulting plants will all be female. I also had a clone mother years ago whose clones always produced a single male flower, by putting the clones in close proximity to clones from other strains I was able to cross-breed and have all female seed. As much as I loath quoting Martha Stewart, I must say, " It's a good thing."

overgrowray · #6 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 07:46 AM

thanks for your input, i wanted someone to come on and say it works. Yeah when i get a indoor grow going again i'm going to breed mad female seeds. I'd love to have them for later grows and i know i could sell the seeds. The people i party with trust me, and i know they would buy them up.

gr0wer · #7 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 12:31 PM

But dont forget thta femanized seeds won't always be 100% female. Its only if you veg in optimal conditions. Sexes are influenced by the conditions including stress but do the stressing in flower otherwise you will get a full male or hermie.

1. blue spectrum light
2. cool temps
3. high airflow
4. high humidity
5. and one other :P

I cant wait till i finish my mini breeding box and get my seeds!

I will defenetly give this and other meathods and teqniques of advanced breeding and growing a this O'grow stuff is for the birds. Lots of fun over this winter!

GrassCharles · #8 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 02:40 PM

What do you mean cool temps? some say that high temps at about 30C make the plant female....

barnaby_wylde · #9 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 06:53 PM

it wud b very strange to get males from fem seeds, just fems hermies and the odd inbread mutant. when growing the plants from these seeds that shud b rememberd and more care taken to keep them fem. not a lot can b done about the mutants but sometimes thats a good thing. u can get pollyployds or just freaky large plants. pissing aroung with plants dna, and thats wot ur doing when u try and make fem seeds is still a touch and go deal.

this is just me thinking outloud now but..... some plants such as thai r natral hermies. even the fems seem to carry male cromeazones so that wud b a bad startin point 4 a fem seed breedin experiment. if u cross a hermi with a hermi then ALL seeds r hermi. to give the best chance of a all fem crop a good starting point wud not be a plant like thai, or a plant thats bin crossed with thai, like haze, jack herer (even tho its not a main part of the dna). in fact id stay away from any of the stavitas unless i knew it was unlikely to throw up hermies in nature. id find a nice stable breed thats been around a while and has proved its self to b stable and not queer. ur only prob then is gettin ur mom to throw a male flower. do that tho and ur on2 a winner!

sidious · #10 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 07:05 PM

ok......since we're on "mad ass ideas of the week" how's about this one as a reply to barnaby's idea of getting a female plant to produce a male flower..........what if you got some pollen from a good male, and inserted it into the stem of a good female, what if it was to become part of the plants dna.......but not like a hermie, where it would grow female and male flowers, but on diffrent stems....lol...(hey i'm guessing all this gimme a break...lol) what gave me the idea of this is that lasr week i heard a story, of a guy who lost his thumb......they were unable to sew it back on, so the amputated his big toe and then stuck it on a thumb.....and part of the healing process was to insert the new thunb into the guys side, and then it heals...........hey just an idea....lol........Peace out........Sid

ps this would be a perfect thread for a possible new forum called "advanced and experimental growing techniques"

barnaby_wylde · #11 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 07:21 PM

^^^^ the idea is to keep male dna outta the plant not add it. my head hurts now, im just gonna stick to cloning my fems i think lol.

sidious · #12 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 07:25 PM

yeah but you said you wanted a mom to throw out a male flower...i was wondering why but gave it a go anyway.......lol........Peace out........Sid

barnaby_wylde · #13 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 07:49 PM

a male flower on a female plant doesnt have any male dna in it so when it breeds with a female ther is only fem dna in the seed so the seed is a fem seed.

sidious · #14 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 07:55 PM

aghhh barnaby i'm gonna fry your brain soon.....lol........ok well if a female grows a male flower, and it has no male dna, would it pollinate the female,? or would it not just think that it had come into contact with another female or a foreign object?...........where's my bong, i need to start thinking straight............lol..............Peace out.........Sid

barnaby_wylde · #15 (**permalink**) 09-01-2003, 08:11 PM

pollon is pollon is pollon...... it seems that any mj pollon has the rite triggers to make the plant flower. just like necterines r a cross of 2 types of plant, (peach and plum i think) all it needs r the right triggers, thats something to do with the number of czones in the pollon and ther dna type but not ther sex.

a fem has XX cromeazones and a male XY. the only thing thats missing from the deal is Y czone, u cud never grow "male seeds" cus u cud never have a seed without the X, males in the plant world r not really needed, a lot like males in the real world since sperm banks.

i think my mind is fried, im gonna go look at some lezbo porn till the world makes sence again or i just stop careing...

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#1 (permalink) 08-31-2003, 06:21 PM
overgrowray Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Usa, Pa Posts: 1,937	How To Breed Female Seeds First off i have to say i'm sorry to everyone. I rarely have time to get online anymore. I'm very sorry i haven't been coming around. My sister lost her kids and we have them now, and there more than a handful. I was also on a rocky road with my girl, but thats all AOK now and i'm happy to say we got engaged on Aug 29th. I really wish i could be on the city like i used to, i feel really bad that i haven't been helping out. In High Times Oct 2001 they talked about breeding female seeds. I heard of this before i found the article, but now i believe it will work. It just sounds too easy to be true in a way. But all female cannabis plants are born with the potential to be hermaphrodites as a safty factor(so the species can't die out). So if you have say a room full of known females, for the first three weeks of flowering you have the light on for a hour in the middle of the 12 hour dark period. Well the plants think there dieing out so one of the females grows a male branch, but since theres no males in the room theres no male chromosomes, so when the seeds produce theres no seeds with male chromosomes so theres going to be no male seeds. ... Well thats what i've read a few times, but i haven't gotten to try it yet. I would but right now i don't have anything indoors, and my electric is about to be turned off anyways because i'm broke. Has anyone else tried this or would like to, so we can find out if this is the true way. I know you can buy all female seeds, so there has to be a way to produce them and this is the best way i've heard so far. __________________ "eye for an eye" the juggalo scrubalo ninja muthafucko ray&angel together forever

#2 (permalink) 08-31-2003, 08:26 PM
gr0wer Outdoor grower/everything Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,818	Im sorry to hear of the hard times man at lest you willhave somebuds to fallbackonto to chill out . About the femanized seeds, if you let the plants finish more they put out male pollen sacks that you can collect and use to polinate for femanized seeds. At lest thats what a high times article said. Im going to give it a try when i harvest by harvesting the main colas and leaving some of the lower colas to over ripen.

#3 (permalink) 08-31-2003, 08:42 PM
bubblegum_man20 72 clones a week :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: East LA Posts: 223	yep let them go as long as possible then harvest hang upside down to dry after two weeks look for male flowers (probaly only one) pick them and keep cool use on the next crop ,,,,thats what they say ,,, we will see ,,,,,,any form of stress can make a female produce male flowers ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,good luck __________________ over grow the dea

#4 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 05:38 AM
overgrowray Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Usa, Pa Posts: 1,937	yeah i really want to try it now, it would be great to have all female seeds. __________________ "eye for an eye" the juggalo scrubalo ninja muthafucko ray&angel together forever

#5 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 07:20 AM
clonemeister Old School Stoner Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Stabbin Cabin Posts: 509	I have grown seed produced from stress induced herms several times and, it does work.The resulting plants will all be female. I also had a clone mother years ago whose clones always produced a single male flower, by putting the clones in close proximity to clones from other strains I was able to cross-breed and have all female seed. As much as I loath quoting Martha Stewart, I must say, " It's a good thing." __________________ one bud to bring them all.........and in the darkness bind them "I do not understand this sqeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes." ......Winston Churchill

#6 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 07:46 AM
overgrowray Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Usa, Pa Posts: 1,937	thanks for your input, i wanted someone to come on and say it works. Yeah when i get a indoor grow going again i'm going to breed mad female seeds. I'd love to have them for later grows and i know i could sell the seeds. The people i party with trust me, and i know they would buy them up. __________________ "eye for an eye" the juggalo scrubalo ninja muthafucko ray&angel together forever

#7 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 12:31 PM
gr0wer Outdoor grower/everything Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,818	But dont forget thta femanized seeds won't always be 100% female. Its only if you veg in optimal conditions. Sexes are influenced by the conditions including stress but do the stressing in flower otherwise you will get a full male or hermie. 1. blue spectrum light 2. cool temps 3. high airflow 4. high humidity 5. and one other :P I cant wait till i finish my mini breeding box and get my seeds! I will defenetly give this and other meathods and teqniques of advanced breeding and growing a this O'grow stuff is for the birds. Lots of fun over this winter! __________________ "If you can teach a monkey to turn a hose on and off you can teach a monkey to grow weed. " -some big cali outdoor grower. "You know you've achieved perfection in design, not when you have nothing more to add, but when you have nothing more to take away." - Antoine de Saint Exupery overgrow growfaqs My outdoor growing, guide part I My growbox guide Last edited by gr0wer; 10-26-2003 at 07:08 AM.

#8 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 02:40 PM
GrassCharles PEace & Weed For All Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 41	COOL TEMPS? What do you mean cool temps? some say that high temps at about 30C make the plant female....

#9 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 06:53 PM
barnaby_wylde Old School Stoner Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 828	it wud b very strange to get males from fem seeds, just fems hermies and the odd inbread mutant. when growing the plants from these seeds that shud b rememberd and more care taken to keep them fem. not a lot can b done about the mutants but sometimes thats a good thing. u can get pollyployds or just freaky large plants. pissing aroung with plants dna, and thats wot ur doing when u try and make fem seeds is still a touch and go deal. this is just me thinking outloud now but..... some plants such as thai r natral hermies. even the fems seem to carry male cromeazones so that wud b a bad startin point 4 a fem seed breedin experiment. if u cross a hermi with a hermi then ALL seeds r hermi. to give the best chance of a all fem crop a good starting point wud not be a plant like thai, or a plant thats bin crossed with thai, like haze, jack herer (even tho its not a main part of the dna). in fact id stay away from any of the stavitas unless i knew it was unlikely to throw up hermies in nature. id find a nice stable breed thats been around a while and has proved its self to b stable and not queer. ur only prob then is gettin ur mom to throw a male flower. do that tho and ur on2 a winner!

#10 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 07:05 PM
sidious Old School Stoner Join Date: May 2002 Location: ohhh wouldn't you like to know!! Posts: 7,155	ok......since we're on "mad ass ideas of the week" how's about this one as a reply to barnaby's idea of getting a female plant to produce a male flower..........what if you got some pollen from a good male, and inserted it into the stem of a good female, what if it was to become part of the plants dna.......but not like a hermie, where it would grow female and male flowers, but on diffrent stems....lol...(hey i'm guessing all this gimme a break...lol) what gave me the idea of this is that lasr week i heard a story, of a guy who lost his thumb......they were unable to sew it back on, so the amputated his big toe and then stuck it on a thumb.....and part of the healing process was to insert the new thunb into the guys side, and then it heals...........hey just an idea....lol........Peace out........Sid ps this would be a perfect thread for a possible new forum called "advanced and experimental growing techniques" __________________ www.geocities.com/quickgrowguide/ "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

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#11 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 07:21 PM
barnaby_wylde Old School Stoner Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 828	^^^^ the idea is to keep male dna outta the plant not add it. my head hurts now, im just gonna stick to cloning my fems i think lol.

#12 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 07:25 PM
sidious Old School Stoner Join Date: May 2002 Location: ohhh wouldn't you like to know!! Posts: 7,155	yeah but you said you wanted a mom to throw out a male flower...i was wondering why but gave it a go anyway.......lol........Peace out........Sid __________________ www.geocities.com/quickgrowguide/ "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

#13 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 07:49 PM
barnaby_wylde Old School Stoner Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 828	a male flower on a female plant doesnt have any male dna in it so when it breeds with a female ther is only fem dna in the seed so the seed is a fem seed.

#14 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 07:55 PM
sidious Old School Stoner Join Date: May 2002 Location: ohhh wouldn't you like to know!! Posts: 7,155	aghhh barnaby i'm gonna fry your brain soon.....lol........ok well if a female grows a male flower, and it has no male dna, would it pollinate the female,? or would it not just think that it had come into contact with another female or a foreign object?...........where's my bong, i need to start thinking straight............lol..............Peace out.........Sid __________________ www.geocities.com/quickgrowguide/ "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

#15 (permalink) 09-01-2003, 08:11 PM
barnaby_wylde Old School Stoner Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 828	pollon is pollon is pollon...... it seems that any mj pollon has the rite triggers to make the plant flower. just like necterines r a cross of 2 types of plant, (peach and plum i think) all it needs r the right triggers, thats something to do with the number of czones in the pollon and ther dna type but not ther sex. a fem has XX cromeazones and a male XY. the only thing thats missing from the deal is Y czone, u cud never grow "male seeds" cus u cud never have a seed without the X, males in the plant world r not really needed, a lot like males in the real world since sperm banks. i think my mind is fried, im gonna go look at some lezbo porn till the world makes sence again or i just stop careing...