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Old 08-03-2008, 10:23 PM
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Ozone scrubbing VS Carbon filters

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Just make sure you don't put your Ozone generator inside your grow room. I made that mistake, it killed the plant next to it in less then 6 hours.
There are much better and safer scrubbing methods for small grows,Ozone generators are great for large grow-ops but some precautions need to be understood and followed.

If you use an O.G. you should know about DIY generators and the HUGE output variations they can have and the risks which come along with them.

Rumple is 100% right in that the generator should not be in the room with plants,animals or people.

Ozone is very corrosive to most metal and will eat it at an alarming rate(much more so when a DIY generator is used)and poison to all living organisms,O.G. are used for killing mold spores in homes and is very efective,blows away in 30 min. of so.

The ozone produced should be generated at the end of the ventilation run and into a mixing box or chamber which is size specific to the particulate PPM and air movement so the stinky particulate mixes/bonds to or is converted to another compound(I'm no chemist and don't really know what really happens)but after the the mixing chamber does its thing "it" (the ozone and anything else) just blows away out of your house(not in the attic) and then it mixes with the atmospheric air where it is diluted enough not to be harmful(in theory anyways).

O.G. are very easy and cheap to build but IMHO are not as good as a well matched refillable activated carbon filter for all the listed side effects listed above.

I had a 1000 sq. ft. room with no filter and 1.5 lbs (when dried)in the 5th week of flower exhausting into the attic where it filled the garage through an open drop down ladder with the most pungent sweet smell i EVER smelled and the garage was over 120 feet away,then i added a 20"x17" can50 filter with an 8" flange,2.5" thick of carbon (about 42 lbs of carbon)$140.00 and within one hr. i never smelled a thing outside the room and i would guess if i only use it in flower during the 3rd week through the drying stages(6 weeks each grow) i could get at least 10 grows till i would need to refill it(and i think its about $45.00 to fill this one.
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Old 08-09-2008, 03:25 AM
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Re: White Rhino in Bubble-buckets 1rst grow

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What is the humidity in your grow room
thanks bro, i pretty much got it all sorted over at jcj77d's thread. it was the humidity. i ended up adding 2 more small fans blowing air across the plants in an V like pattern. in the end i felt sort of dumb for not realizing it myself, but that's what you guys are for right?



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The ozone genorator will kill all the mold there and stop it comming back. Fooker that mold in the buds it goes throutgh the bud at a alarming rate if not kept in chek.

I had this once and lost shit loads to the mold left it one day came back the next to buds that when i picked them up the fookers fell apart to dust NOT GOOD.
NO doubt man, all in all i think i lost about 150-200g's to mold before i got it in check. thanks for checking the girls out.



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Just make sure you don't put your Ozone generator inside your grow room. I made that mistake, it killed the plant next to it in less then 6 hours.
I remember reading that in one of your posts. Thanks for stopping buy man, i feel honored. i have modeled my grow after the one you have, but am short on the space and don't have the co2.



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There are much better and safer scrubbing methods for small grows,Ozone generators are great for large grow-ops but some precautions need to be understood and followed.

If you use an O.G. you should know about DIY generators and the HUGE output variations they can have and the risks which come along with them.

Rumple is 100% right in that the generator should not be in the room with plants,animals or people.

Ozone is very corrosive to most metal and will eat it at an alarming rate(much more so when a DIY generator is used)and poison to all living organisms,O.G. are used for killing mold spores in homes and is very efective,blows away in 30 min. of so.

The ozone produced should be generated at the end of the ventilation run and into a mixing box or chamber which is size specific to the particulate PPM and air movement so the stinky particulate mixes/bonds to or is converted to another compound(I'm no chemist and don't really know what really happens)but after the the mixing chamber does its thing "it" (the ozone and anything else) just blows away out of your house(not in the attic) and then it mixes with the atmospheric air where it is diluted enough not to be harmful(in theory anyways).

O.G. are very easy and cheap to build but IMHO are not as good as a well matched refillable activated carbon filter for all the listed side effects listed above.

I had a 1000 sq. ft. room with no filter and 1.5 lbs (when dried)in the 5th week of flower exhausting into the attic where it filled the garage through an open drop down ladder with the most pungent sweet smell i EVER smelled and the garage was over 120 feet away,then i added a 20"x17" can50 filter with an 8" flange,2.5" thick of carbon (about 42 lbs of carbon)$140.00 and within one hr. i never smelled a thing outside the room and i would guess if i only use it in flower during the 3rd week through the drying stages(6 weeks each grow) i could get at least 10 grows till i would need to refill it(and i think its about $45.00 to fill this one.

True words of wisdom. I really appreciate your concern in this matter and I have taken all the precautions I can. I understand the harm it can do, and I also understand the harm that can come if I get stuffed into a German prison cell with Dieter and his buddy Christof. I'm going to try and clear this up, hopefully, about how I have this working. I'm not just venting Ozone into my bedroom above my bed. I have the growing apparatus in a seperate room in which I, nor anyone else stay in for any extended periods of time. There is a window that stays cracked(summer it's wide open) for vetilation(co2). The box is vented directly into that room above the box. Inside the box I have a carbon filter that cleans the shit out of the air that flows from the extractor. The only time I use the Ozone is when and after I have the box open. Long enough to clean the air and cycle it outside. I also fitted a metal disc and charged it for collecting the excess anions so the air isn't completely saturated. I turn them on simultaniously and do what I have to do, 30-45 minutes, then turn them off simultaniously about an hr afterwards. If I don't use it and the door is open the entire place stinks, and I DO NOT want the fuzz smelling the funk.

I have been incognito for about a week now. Took the colas the past few days. I hate trimming, but then I also love it. I lost feeling in my thumb yesterday. Man, I need to find some spring loaded scissors with gummie like grips. I had to soak them in alcahol today because I could barely move the resin caked blades. This is my second time ever trimming, and I have to say I am pretty damn good. So far, I'm guessing dried weight off of what I didn't loose from mold is going to be about 600g(hopefully!). I have a little over 450 now, off the colas. And don't worry I have pictures coming.

I also have Northern Lights #5xHaze Mist (soil) in it's ninth week.Only 2 weeks to go on that one. She's starting to have a citrus smell, gotta love Haze's.
Next has already been decided and will be White skunk from Sensi and a donated strain I have never heard of called Purplicious(soil). Probably some guys bag seed.
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Old 08-09-2008, 03:46 PM
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Re: White Rhino in Bubble-buckets 1rst grow

Here's a pic of 1 1/2-dried bud, most of them are in jars now. I suck at taking pics.
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Re: White Rhino in Bubble-buckets 1rst grow

very very nice bud for your first grow, + rep
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Re: White Rhino in Bubble-buckets 1rst grow

ive grown rhino before... looks ohhhhhh so yummy. packs a punch too, i might have to make an order lol
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