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Old 11-18-2007, 09:09 PM
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Hydro questions.

Okay does anyone here successfuly grow with tap water? (letting the water sit for a while to evaporate chlorine obviously)

And what kind of hydro nutes would you recomend? I hate having to order things constantly so when i find a good product i will buy in bulk.

I was experimenting with tap water and dissolving soil nutes but the ph was going all over the place... I know the soil nutes arent a good idea but could it also be soemthign with the water? I let it sit but im jsut not sure.

When i start growing in my hydro setup I will have my ec meter, hydro nutes (should i use Superthrive "drop a gallon" also or is this not needed since hydro nutes contain the micro nutes as well?) and possibly R/O water or distilled water.
 
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fox farm is bomb. look for humboldt based companies.
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Thank man, do they do all things hydro? I will def check them out right now.
 
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i've used "pure blend pro" many times in hydro, good stuff. some people really like superthrive, i feel it's over hyped. i mean, how much good could one drop per gallon do for your grow? one drop of a nutrient concentrate in a gallon of water, will have little to no reading on a ppm meter. so, i guess it's 6 to 1, half dozen to the other. i'd go with r/o water. when you start with less funk in your water, the more actual beneficial nutes you can add.
 
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super thrive

i absolutely swear by superthrive. Plants love it. I tend to use 1/8 cap per gallon every once in a while, but i notice the biggest difference when i do. It makes the plant grow more than double as fast. I had a plant that was all wilted once that needed to be watered, and when i watered it i used superthrive. If i had used regular water it would have slowly recovered and perked up, but since i used superthrive... I could see it pick itself up within 40 seconds. I could see it move like "ahhhh that feels goooood". Superthrive works sooo good. Try it out, but use a little bit more than a drop a gallon. Do not use it all the time either. Only every once in a while.
 
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I could see it pick itself up within 40 seconds.
do you smell that, anyone??? i smell "bullshit!" a wilted plant in need of water that has fallen over, can not revive in 40 seconds. can not begin to revive in 40 seconds. i have let that happen to me outside with tomato plants. it takes a good long while to re-group and loose the droop. i would guess an hour or so, depending on how many tips wilted.....
 
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do you smell that, anyone??? i smell "bullshit!" a wilted plant in need of water that has fallen over, can not revive in 40 seconds. can not begin to revive in 40 seconds. i have let that happen to me outside with tomato plants. it takes a good long while to re-group and loose the droop. i would guess an hour or so, depending on how many tips wilted.....

I disagree, I have also watched a plant that was thristy and wilted pick its self back up. It was more along the lines of a few minutes, but I watched it go from halfway limp, to standing completely back up.
 
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I use plain tap water with Fox Farm nutes, havent had any problems for the past 4 years.
 
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I disagree, I have also watched a plant that was thristy and wilted pick its self back up. It was more along the lines of a few minutes, but I watched it go from halfway limp, to standing completely back up.
i have no doubt it happens. it happened to me, but not in mere seconds, that's impossible!
 
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superthrive

If it every happens and you have a diing plant a couple minutes or 40 seconds, superthrive works bomb
 
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You definately need to use nutes that are designed for hydro.
Soil nutes do not need to have the microelements in them.
Tap water can cause problems with magnesium lockout due to the calcium magnesium ratio being out of balance.
If you have tap water that is near pH 8 then you will use a lot of pH down to maitain the pH in the proper range of 5.5 -5.8

Also if you use tap water, the nute mfg reccommend that you use 50% or less nute solutions.

You will have better results, and grow faster, if you use nutes at 1/2 strenght.

If you use RO water then you can use more nutes.

I still only use 75% with RO.
These are 65 days from planting the seeds and they are 28". only 75% Dutch Master Gold nutes.
 
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Thanks all for the input, Im realy considering using a R/O machine.

Also no one realy answered if soil nutes + SuperThrive= Hydro nute equivalent ( meaning it gives sufficient micro nutes and macro nutes)
 
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Superthrive is plant vtiamins. mostly B vitamins. Like AN B-52.

Hydro nutes have microelements in them.

Soil nutes do NOT have micro nutes in them.

Plants get micronutrients from soil.

There is no soil in hydro, therefore you must use hydro nutes in a hydro grow.
 
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