Bonsai Mums?

[Mystic]

Easy on the Epsom Salt spray next time.

So I mixed up my spray and spritzed my lady and then 2 day later come to check on here...she's covered in white powder and is dry to the bone...needless to say, the PH of the leaves are jacked up...lost some leaves, but still hanging in. Rinsed leaves really well and flushed soil too.

I'll post some more pics in a few weeks to show the braid progress. Anybody else out there?

[notspam]

Just wanted to be sure I read it correctly...It is possible to reveg after harvesting and then you clone the revegged plant into your mom. Is this correct? Can you grow from seed and make a mom after knowing the sex? Only other way I can see to do it is to grow some seeds then clone each one. Sex the seedlings and keep the clones as possible mom candidates. Once seedlings show sex kill the males and their clones. Then harvest the females from seeds and pick your favorite the keep the corresponding clone as your mom. But this requires growing too many plants though. Is there any disadvantages to cloning a revegged plant as your mom? Will this produce a weaker plant than the original before revegging?

[SlowcalaToker]

Originally Posted by notspam

Just wanted to be sure I read it correctly...It is possible to reveg after harvesting and then you clone the revegged plant into your mom. Is this correct? Can you grow from seed and make a mom after knowing the sex? Only other way I can see to do it is to grow some seeds then clone each one. Sex the seedlings and keep the clones as possible mom candidates. Once seedlings show sex kill the males and their clones. Then harvest the females from seeds and pick your favorite the keep the corresponding clone as your mom. But this requires growing too many plants though. Is there any disadvantages to cloning a revegged plant as your mom? Will this produce a weaker plant than the original before revegging?

That's the idea. I'm planning on doing it in reverse from the way you described it. I'm going to take some clones from my bagseed plants, flower the plants while the clones are rooting, pitching the males when they show and bonsaiing a couple of the strongest, fastest rooting/growing clones. Whatever I get from the original plants after flowering will just be a bonus.

Good luck!

[Mystic]

Originally Posted by SlowcalaToker

That's the idea. I'm planning on doing it in reverse from the way you described it. I'm going to take some clones from my bagseed plants, flower the plants while the clones are rooting, pitching the males when they show and bonsaiing a couple of the strongest, fastest rooting/growing clones. Whatever I get from the original plants after flowering will just be a bonus.

Good luck!

This is the ticket. The reason being is that you can fimm a branch and then clone that branch to promote a better "bonsai structure. It's the only way to go.

HOWEVER, my bonsai is a seed plant and I just revegged the original seed plant and cut the roots and started over.

The negatives to doing this is that the reveg process took almost a month before there was any new growth at all, then it was super slow growth for about 2 months. Then, I dried it out with epsom salts, so now I'm "revegging" somewhat again because I lost some leaves.

Good luck with the cloning for bonsai. Post some pics.

[Mystic]

Originally Posted by notspam

Just wanted to be sure I read it correctly...It is possible to reveg after harvesting and then you clone the revegged plant into your mom. Is this correct? YES
Can you grow from seed and make a mom after knowing the sex? AS LONG AS IT'S STILL SMALL YOU CAN, THE BIGGEST NEGATIVE TO DOING IT THIS WAY IS THAT YOU HAVE TO TRY AND MAKE THE PLANT GO BACK TO IT'S VEGATATIVE STATE AFTER IT'S STARTED FLOWERING. THIS WILL ALMOST DEFINITELY MAKE THE PLANT SCRAGGILY, WITH 1-3 FINGERED LEAVES AND WILL BE A PAINFUL PROCESS. THIS IS POSSIBLE THOUGH IF YOU CUT A CLONE THEN SEXED IT. Only other way I can see to do it is to grow some seeds then clone each one. Sex the seedlings and keep the clones as possible mom candidates. Once seedlings show sex kill the males and their clones. NEVER EVER EVER EVER KILL MALES. FLOWER THEM OUT SEPARATELY, SAVE A BRANCH IN THE FREEZER AND USE A LITTLE POLLEN TO SEED ONE BRANCH OF YOUR BEST MOTHER, THEN YOU'LL HAVE THAT PLANT FOREVER...AND THEY ARE "YOURS" Then harvest the females from seeds and pick your favorite the keep the corresponding clone as your mom. But this requires growing too many plants though. YOU'D BE SUPRISED WHAT YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH WITH 1 LITER SODA BOTTLES...THEY ARE VERY TALL AND NARROW AND WILL FLOWER A CLONE PERFECTLY AND TAKE UP A 3" SQUARE...IT'S WORTH IT...THINK SOG TO THE MAX WHEN YOU FIRST CLONE THEN TOSS THE BAD ONES OR SET UP A PERPETUAL GROW. I CUT 15 CLONES FROM MY LAST MOM. 9 SURVIVED...SPACED THEM OUT 2 WEEKS APART IN THE FLOWER ROOM. I'LL NOW HAVE FRESH FOR 18 WEEKS. Is there any disadvantages to cloning a revegged plant as your mom? OTHER THAN THE REVEG TIME FRAME Will this produce a weaker plant than the original before revegging?NOPE

I wanted to answer your questions specifically really quick.
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[notspam]

thanks Mystic and slowcala toker. I'm still new to all this but I don't stop reading and taking notes. I like the 1L bottle idea...much like the genius of DrBudGreengenes. He just amazes me.

[DrBudGreengenes]

Here are some more Bonsai Moms..........

[Mystic]

Originally Posted by DrBudGreengenes

Here are some more Bonsai Moms..........

I hate you! LOL...just kidding brother, you know that! Some day soon I'll have some good mothers to show. For right now I just have my Blue Mystic Bonsai.

I really love that you are revegging those in the gatorade bottles...or am I jumping to conclusions?

I have a "dwarfed" white widow that I'm going to revegg myself and try and clone and see if I can't do a sweet SOG with a bunch of them. This thing is badass...only about...8" tall, and just 4 phat buds...all F it. Pics attached....cool huh? It got fert burn and all leaves are yellowed out. I'm going to flush starting next week anyhow, so I'm not to worried...this pic is about a week or so old. No more leaves at all now actually now that I look at it.

I have 4 WW and 2 DP clones that I'm rooting now...as soon as they do, the best DP clone and best WW clone will be mothered and twisted and bound. My skunk hybrid mom is coming back from a Salt bathe...but she'll be bound soon too.

Keep the photos coming fellow bonsai lovers...