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Old 06-20-2007, 07:54 PM
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Molasses

does anyone know anything about the use of molasses as a source of carbs and secondary nutrients...please let met me know!!!!????
 
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I use molasses with every grow and love it. I got mine from amazon dot com - feed grade blackstrap molasses. Full of micronutrients and carbs. Great stuff
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You can also try botanicare's sweet or adv nutrient's sweet leaf. Might cost a bit more than mixing yourself, but they are ready to go!

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Just get Advanced Nutrients Carbo-load....I mean come on- $15-20 for the stuff when you'll pay $10-20 for molassas. It was developed by people that use it on what we do and its tried tested and true. Stick with what works...If you use molassas and it works -use it -if you never have -Use something that does and is at least used for what you are useing it for..
 
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Multicellular plants can't absorb complex carbohydrates. Molasses may be useful for feeding microbes in soil (or helping along root diseases), but cannabis plants will ignore the stuff. The sugar molecules probably won't get past the root barrier, but even if they did- do you actually WANT to inhale burning sugar smoke? Not I.

Clever marketers nick buzzwords out of everyday parlance to sell products. "Carbo-loading" is something a marathon runner may do; before a race, the runner may eat a bunch of pasta. The term is meaningless when applied to cannabis plants.

Go ahead- check me out- just try to find a piece of peer-reviewed botanical research that says plants can use sugars as a fertiliser.

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Multicellular plants can't absorb complex carbohydrates. Molasses may be useful for feeding microbes in soil (or helping along root diseases), but cannabis plants will ignore the stuff. The sugar molecules probably won't get past the root barrier, but even if they did- do you actually WANT to inhale burning sugar smoke? Not I.

Clever marketers nick buzzwords out of everyday parlance to sell products. "Carbo-loading" is something a marathon runner may do; before a race, the runner may eat a bunch of pasta. The term is meaningless when applied to cannabis plants.

Go ahead- check me out- just try to find a piece of peer-reviewed botanical research that says plants can use sugars as a fertiliser.

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i did and didnt like what i found.i now have a gallon jug of heavy weight(molasses) I will never use on my pot.Though i may try it our for my organic tomato grow!!! on another note molasses is a great chelator.it also contributes some k and some micros.think of molasses as a food for the soil,not the plant.at any rate i will never pour this expensive ass crap into my res!!

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About all I have ever found that suggests molasses (or sugar beet processing waste) is useful in horticulture is in encouraging certain beneficial microbes- in soils. However, I don't know how one would encourage the beneficial microbes in soil without encouraging all of them.

Regardless, one should simply never put sugars in a hydro reservoir. Leave a glass of sugary water on the kitchen counter for a week and you'll see why!
 
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From what I have read, products like botanicare's sweet or adv nutrient's sweet leaf enhance flavor. Both are organic too.



Sweet: Cane sugar, citric acid, ascorbic acid (vitamin c), thiamine, riboflavin, pyridoxine, niacin, glycine, alanine, valine, leucine, isoleucine, serine, threonine, aspartic acid, glutamic acid, asparagine, glutamine, lysine, arginine, histidine, cysteine, cystine, methionine, proline, phenylalanine, tyrosine, trytophan, Epsom salt, ferrous sulfate, agrimineral™ 76 micro complex.

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From the Sweet description: Carbohydrates are the end products of photosynthesis. Carbohydrates are broken down during respiration to release large amounts of chemical energy which is utilized by plants for biosynthetic reactions. Sweet™ contains optimal concentrations of glucose, fructose and sucrose.
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if you want carbs use
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Just get Advanced Nutrients Carbo-load....I mean come on- $15-20 for the stuff when you'll pay $10-20 for molassas. It was developed by people that use it on what we do and its tried tested and true. Stick with what works...If you use molassas and it works -use it -if you never have -Use something that does and is at least used for what you are useing it for..

Why not just save about 15 dollars and buy a bottle of Grandma''s Molasses from the market shelf. There IS NO DIFFERENCE except in the price
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yeah, me too.

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Why not just save about 15 dollars and buy a bottle of Grandma''s Molasses from the market shelf. There IS NO DIFFERENCE except in the price
Why not bury roast beef sandwiches in your soil?

mmm.... saaaaaaandwiches....
 
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if you dudes have never read a paper or research project that shows the benefits of added carbs in flowering mj plants you werent looking hard enough. maybe what i read wasn't studied at harvard, but in a side-by-side compairison, one plant using no added carbs and one plant using blackstrap, the plant that had added carbs had bigger buds that weighed more, sweeter smoke, and an all around more robust nature. of course this is as a suplement and not as a stand alone fert, but still. there are too many of use here who have used it and saw a difference to deny it.
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if you dudes have never read a paper or research project that shows the benefits of added carbs in flowering mj plants you werent looking hard enough.
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