first_time_aeroponics_grow

[SmokeyMcBlunt]

They look good man! Plus they seem to be starting normal growth so your reveg period might not be very long. The farther into flower they are cut the longer it takes. Looks like your friend took them pretty early.
Your temps are fine and actually should be that high (or even higher) if you are using CO2. Its not effective under 80 degrees anyway. As for feeding, what is your pH and your ppm/EC?

Btw, Im planning a vegas trip soon myself

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by SmokeyMcBlunt

They look good man! Plus they seem to be starting normal growth so your reveg period might not be very long. The farther into flower they are cut the longer it takes. Looks like your friend took them pretty early.
Your temps are fine and actually should be that high (or even higher) if you are using CO2. Its not effective under 80 degrees anyway. As for feeding, what is your pH and your ppm/EC?

Btw, Im planning a vegas trip soon myself

vegas was definitely a trip smokey. it was my first time and i was blown away.

anyways i dont have a ppm/EC meter. i am planning on one in the future but dont have the cash now. the pH is around 5.5-6.0. i to veg for at least a couple more weeks. how long does NLxBB usually take to flower?? and how much increase in size?

Looks good. I guess you got your spacebar fixed too, eh?

[SmokeyMcBlunt]

Originally Posted by aerohead

vegas was definitely a trip smokey. it was my first time and i was blown away.

anyways i dont have a ppm/EC meter. i am planning on one in the future but dont have the cash now. the pH is around 5.5-6.0. i to veg for at least a couple more weeks. how long does NLxBB usually take to flower?? and how much increase in size?

I went to vegas dec 05 and have been planning a return trip ever since! Looks like Ill get it in mid may finally once my current crops are done.

The ppms arent a super big deal if you stick with organics and organic mixes and feed around the bottle indications. What are you feeding with? Any supplements? Are you using the dropper test kit to get your pH? NLxBB is a pretty strict 60-65 day strain. Its a very hardy strain tho so its a good one to get your feet wet with. And once yours has completely revegged you can clone it yourself! They can end up around 3' tall (usually shorter tho) with a few very large colas. Topping it once it revegs will help too, as will the LST. I got nearly 2.5ozs off a single plant in my first ever grow so there is potential. Im looking for 2-3ozs per plant in my current crop.
One thing I wanted to add is that NLxBB is a cal-mag hungry plant. Running hydro you really need to pick up a bottle of Cal-Mag or similar or you may run into serious def. problems.
So to wrap it up you need to:
1. Keep water temps 70 or lower. 66-68 is best.
2. Let the plant completely reveg. Its completely revegged when all new growth is normal 3/5/7 leaves and there are no more pistils forming.
3. Liberally trim the plant of lower growth (bottom 1/3) after reveg but only up until week 2 or 3 of flower. No cutting after that!
4. I really recommend a root protector like Hydroguard if you cant keep your temps 66-68 all the time. Hygrozyme is good as well but $$$$.

Follow those and you will be in good shape!

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by SmokeyMcBlunt

I went to vegas dec 05 and have been planning a return trip ever since! Looks like Ill get it in mid may finally once my current crops are done.

The ppms arent a super big deal if you stick with organics and organic mixes and feed around the bottle indications. What are you feeding with? Any supplements? Are you using the dropper test kit to get your pH? NLxBB is a pretty strict 60-65 day strain. Its a very hardy strain tho so its a good one to get your feet wet with. And once yours has completely revegged you can clone it yourself! They can end up around 3' tall (usually shorter tho) with a few very large colas. Topping it once it revegs will help too, as will the LST. I got nearly 2.5ozs off a single plant in my first ever grow so there is potential. Im looking for 2-3ozs per plant in my current crop.
One thing I wanted to add is that NLxBB is a cal-mag hungry plant. Running hydro you really need to pick up a bottle of Cal-Mag or similar or you may run into serious def. problems.
So to wrap it up you need to:
1. Keep water temps 70 or lower. 66-68 is best.
2. Let the plant completely reveg. Its completely revegged when all new growth is normal 3/5/7 leaves and there are no more pistils forming.
3. Liberally trim the plant of lower growth (bottom 1/3) after reveg but only up until week 2 or 3 of flower. No cutting after that!
4. I really recommend a root protector like Hydroguard if you cant keep your temps 66-68 all the time. Hygrozyme is good as well but $$$$.an

Follow those and you will be in good shape!

im using General Hydroponic 3-part nute set. thats it right now. ya im using a drop test kit. did you say 6.0-6.5pH?? im definitely hope for a good yield. i just saw my buddies plants(my lady's sisters) and they are 2 weeks into flower and are bushy as hell. cant wait for some stinky buds to start growing.

after looking at my buddies plants getting so big im wondering how big i should get this plant before i flower it. i dont want to outgrow the space or the light. in the pics below the black mesh area is 14x24 and is about the amount of space that light can cover. should i cover it about 50% then switch it to flower?? anyways the plant looks good and im looking forward to the next couple months. heres some pics...

[SmokeyMcBlunt]

Hard to say how big to let it get since you are LST and SCROGing. You should top the plant if you havent yet. From the pics its obvious the plant is still revegging and you really cant go to 12/12 until its done. Topping it would help it spread out under the screen. Since NLxBB doesnt get toooo tall, it shouldnt matter much when you go to 12/12 as long as the plant has revegged. Plus you will want to do some trimming like I mentioned before.
Overall, just keep doing what you are doing and worry about flowering later. I warned you it can take a month or more to reveg. Patience grasshopper.

Btw, I said 60 to 65 day strain meaning flowering will take that long. Your pH should be in the 5.5-6.0 range on average. Swinging a bit higher or lower is ok as long as you get it back into that range quickly. I do see a bit of burn on your plants, so maybe back off on the addback.

[aerohead]

here are some picks i took yesterday after some training. the plants are looking really good and the nute burn is going away. growth seems to be speeding up and it seems to be liking the environment. the roots are looking very well and have increased so much in the last week. im probably gonna veg for another weekish then switch to 12/12. right now i have four 6500k bulbs in reflector for vegging. would it be better if i had two 3000k bulbs as well or all 3000k?? any t5 advice would be greatly appreciated. depending on this grow i may step up to the 8 bulb t5 fixture or switch to 250w HPS/MH.

pic3- close up of training with hemp
pic4- close up of odd new growth at the base where my plant Y's. the on the left actually goes up and has a 90degree bend in it really weird

[SmokeyMcBlunt]

Your new growth is looking pretty good but its clear that the plant still has not completely reverted to veg state. I saw you said a week before 12/12 and I think you should just wait and see before deciding on when to switch. Since it is your only plant, let it veg out for a good while so the final yield is worth it. With low power lights and a short veg period you wont end up with much bud, especially from a flowered clone. Give the plant a chance to grow all of those pistils out into branches then start trimming them down to the strongest branches. Sounds like you are rushing it a bit and Id hate for you to end up with a popcorn factory of bud.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by SmokeyMcBlunt

Your new growth is looking pretty good but its clear that the plant still has not completely reverted to veg state. I saw you said a week before 12/12 and I think you should just wait and see before deciding on when to switch. Since it is your only plant, let it veg out for a good while so the final yield is worth it. With low power lights and a short veg period you wont end up with much bud, especially from a flowered clone. Give the plant a chance to grow all of those pistils out into branches then start trimming them down to the strongest branches. Sounds like you are rushing it a bit and Id hate for you to end up with a popcorn factory of bud.

i hear you smokey i definitely dont want to rush this grow. plants looking good except for yellowing at the tips of the new growth. is this still nute burn?? should i flush the system or just wait till i flower to change the nute mix?? anyways roots are going nuts, growing through the drain hole and drinkin from the res. so i moved an air stone right under where the drain is. heres some pics the yellowing, growth pics, and some roots.....

[SmokeyMcBlunt]

I see that yellowing. One thing to be aware of is that there are some flaky phenos of NLxBB out there. I have one of them and no matter what I do the leaves get jacked up pretty good during the grow. Just part of plant genetics. It does look like some nute burn and a flush never hurts the plant so go for it.

[aerohead]

day 36 in my box and things are looking well. a couple pieces of the plant got hamfisted by me and i one today and the other took off and looks great. she is getting really big probably gonna flower soon since i need it done when im done with school. thinkin bout doing it on friday so i wont forget the flower start date....probably still will tho. anyways heres so pics from today after some training and trimming. root shot too. peace


ps- have a smokey 4/20

[aerohead]

well its been a week since i which them to 12/12. shes looking really healthy and is filling up the box. im thinking about buying a 2 bulb 24"-T5 set up next week to get more light in the box. also thinking about getting a metered CO2 system since im gonna want one in the future. will it make any difference on this harvest?? the co2 or extra light??

the first two pics are some roots from a couple days ago. the whole bottom of that container is covered with roots and they are growing through the drain into the reservoir. the second pic is after some training on wednesday and the last one is from yesterday. is there any time you should stop training. will it delay flowering?? im thinking i should just leave it alone for the rest of the cycle.

im really impressed with how much room this single plant filled in my box. not sure how im gonna fit more than two plants in there in the future. i have been having ideas of a vertical grow in this box or my bigger closet and have this box for vegging/cloning. anyways those plans will have to wait till after summer.

[SmokeyMcBlunt]

Lookin good man! CO2 likely wont help you much unless the cab is sealed and you maintain ambient temps over 80 degrees. CO2 is expensive and can be a security risk since you have to get the bottles refilled. Id worry about honing your skills, harvesting a couple times to get the basics down pat, then thinking about CO2.

Keep an eye on your pH b/c 2 weeks or so after switching to flower your pH will dip pretty far for a few days while the plants stop taking in N. You will want to start thinking about PK boosters pretty soon. Your plant looks good though, keep it up!

[sverige]

Hey aerohead,

Good looking grow you have going here. I'm no expert, but how about throwing a couple warm spectrum CFLs in your box instead of getting another T5 fixture? I have the same 4 bulb 24" T5 as you, but I haven't had the chance to use it yet.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by sverige

Hey aerohead,

Good looking grow you have going here. I'm no expert, but how about throwing a couple warm spectrum CFLs in your box instead of getting another T5 fixture? I have the same 4 bulb 24" T5 as you, but I haven't had the chance to use it yet.

thanks sverige. definitely thought about picking up some cfls but i really like these t5s. i am planning on getting either a 8 bulb set up or a 250w HID this summer. the T5s just run so cool ventilation is really easy. so i figured if i had that 8 bulb set up in there with a 2 bulb light perpendicular to it on the end the whole cross section of the closet would be covered in lights. and that would be the max amount of light i could fit in there with out going HID. i think it would be about 20,000lumens plenty for that closet. i am planning on picking up some warm t5 bulbs this week too