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Old 11-16-2006, 07:29 AM
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My babies are recovering, but any further suggestions??? **PICS**

These clones have been in vegetative room for about 3 weeks now, recieving 24/0 light from a 400w MH bulb. This is my first attempt at hydro, and the parent plants (next door flowering in soil) were my first grow ever. The strains are Blueberry and Master Kush from Dutch Passion seeds, although my friend originally germinated them and I don't know which plants are which strain. Anyways, I posted a little while back about my problems with mutated growth on some of the plants, (http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plan...owth-help.html) and thanks to Chimera's diagnoses, my pH was too high (didn't know it had to be as low as 5.5!). Here are some new pics of the plants, about a week later and looking much nicer. You can definitely distinguish the new growth from the old! I just purchased a TDS and pH meter, so hopefully I won't run into too much trouble in the future. I still notice that my pH is constantly creeping up all the time, and I was wondering how people running hydro systems manage this best. Just buy gallon-size pH up & down and moniter that shit constantly?

I have an awesome 3x3 ebin-flow basin setup that these babies will be moving into after they grow up and I take more clones. Can't wait for bigger, stickier, better buds in the new hydro setup! Much better than the girls I have flowering in soil right now. Although this hydro shit seems harder and more percise, haha. Not that I object spending more time in my grow room.

The only plant that still seems struggling is the small bushy plant that I circled the new growth in red on. It seems to be focusing its energy on creating more and more branches on the plant. I topped it to hopefully encourage new better growth on the top. Also topped two of the bigger ones today, and as you can see, the biggest one has already been topped and has two nice new heads now. Anyone have any suggestions for me? How am I doing?
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Old 11-16-2006, 07:31 AM
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Old 11-16-2006, 12:30 PM
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looking good.

is that how its going to grow using drip system only in rockwool? believe at this point it should be in some grow rocks so the roots can go exploring.

Looks like you had a touch of Heat Stress at one point. but things are looking better.

Honestly the method of Hydro your using i dont like at all, for the size of plant i still dont see any roots coming out the bottom of the cube as yet and once they do it will take some doing keeping them from drying out with the drip system as they will not be in the rockwool anymore and explosed to the light.

my suggestion to you at this point is to rethink how they will be growing from this point on... If it were me i would fill that container your plants are in with grow rocks, take off the plastic around the cubes and put them in it (burried) then place the drip emmiters to drip over the grow rocks but not directly over the cubes, in other words water the grow rocks around the cubes not on the cubes.

This will encourage the roots to grow out thru the growrocks as it should.

Honestly if it were my plants at this stage i would put them in some bubble buckets.
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Old 11-16-2006, 08:16 PM
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Thank you Dierwolf for your comment.

My initial problem was too high of a pH, i don't think it was heat stress. Infact, some of the stems have a bit of purple in them, which makes me think its a little too cold at night. I even moved the light closer today to encourage growth and keep 'em warmer. As long as my hand feels comfortable when I hold it above their tops, they should be fine, right?

The setup I have put together is mimicking a setup on a "How to Grow" video I found on the internet. The grower in the video just let the roots grow out the bottom (by the end they were close to 1-2 feet hanging out) and had them exposed to the light with no other watering technique but the drippers. You are saying that this is bad? I have bag of grow rocks, but I bought them for when I move these babies into the flowering room. I don't think the bag would fill the whole basin. I do have 7x7 inch potting baskets, also were going to be used in the flowering room, that I was going to pour the rocks into so that I didn't have to waste a bunch of rocks filling the whole basin. Should I set them up in the veg room and then just move the plant with the basket and rocks into the flowering room when they're older? Also, can you only use the rocks for one grow or for multiple grows? Do you also have any suggestions for keeping by pH at a constant 5.5?

BTW, there are already extensive roots coming out the bottom of the cubes, so I should do this soon?
 
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Old 11-17-2006, 03:14 AM
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Well, I took your advice Dierwolf, and they are now sitting in potting baskets filled with grow rocks. Hope they really explode with growth now! One question though, the baskets have small holes in the sides, will the roots grow through to the surrounding baskets making it really hard to move them into the flowering room later?

Here's a pic of them now...
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Your PH will creep up usally a point per day it does for me Every thing i read says its you can take it to 5.0 and drift to 6. Dont add nutes to your ebb and flow untill your ppm drops blow your desired leval Just plain ph balanced water Your ppms increase as water evaps. I bought a large bottle of ph + from a pool store and mix a table spoon per pint of water I inject 1 liter per gallon and test to see the amount of drop You must wait 15 min or so for an accurate reading and mixing helps. By that you can the figure the amont of drop you need and adjust accordingly. Im no expert but this has been working for me. It takes my ph aprox. a week to drift up .5 points Adjust your ph after adding nutes
 
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Old 11-18-2006, 02:13 PM
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Sorry I ment to say PH -

error ph - powder ph - You can also get this in a liquid at a pet store any where the sale aquarium supplies
 
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