12/12 from seed

[murderouspanda]

I've grown many times before, but this time in particular I've been trying out 12/12 from beginning to end. my question is, since my plants have always been under 12/12, obviously they're not going to grow as big as most plants, but how long should it take before buds start appearing on the plants? They've been under 12/12 for at least 2 months thus far to no avail and I'm just wondering how long it took other 12/12 growers before they started seeing budding.

[2 door cut]

man there was like a 500 reply thread on overgrow about 12/12 from seed

god i miss overgrow

anyways, i cant answer your question, but i can tell you that i veg 24/0 for 2 weeks then 12/12 after that. what a fuckin difference them 2 weeks make!

[chimera]

its pretty obvious that you either have a light leak or insuficient light. What type of light are you using, and how big are the plants - hieght and # of internodes(sets of leaves)?

[murderouspanda]

I'm 100% sure there aren't any light leaks and I'm running 159 watts of CFLs for two plants that are both about 6 or 7 inches tall. everything on both plants are really tight and compact which is something I really like about 12/12 as opposed to my other grows where I actually veg them for a bit. like I said, I was just wondering if there were other 12/12 growers out there who could give me an estimate of how long it took before budding started to appear.

[2 door cut]

well, i guess i can answer your question after all, my female plants showed sex on day 29... my male showed sex a couple days before that

[Eckolaker]

Im almost certain that regardless of available light, most plants will still have to reach a certain maturity before the will start to flower.


Although, with your case it seems a bit strange. The plants already being 6 to 7 inches tall should be pretty close to the right maturity. I know people that have done 12/12 from the start with clones, but not with seeds.


I would let them go another week or so, of nothing happens try 18/6 for a week then go back to 12/12. That will definately resolve the issue.

[chimera]

Gosh, 7" in 2 months, I veg for 30 days and in the second week of vegging I've got that much growth and I use cfl's the 1st 10 days. Further, my plants are not even 2 months old and I've already sexed them 10 days ago.

[murderouspanda]

Originally Posted by chimera

Gosh, 7" in 2 months, I veg for 30 days and in the second week of vegging I've got that much growth and I use cfl's the 1st 10 days. Further, my plants are not even 2 months old and I've already sexed them 10 days ago.

cool, you should make your own thread and tell us about it since you have yet to provide any useful information relevant to this one.

this was merely an experiment with a different light cycle since I've accomplished more than a dozen grows in my life time doing things the "regular" way. thanks for the information for those of you who actually did help. +rep

[designatedtoker]

ok heres how it is, i think, when you start growing a plant, it beleives it is going through normal daylight hours, then when the grower hits the 12/12 it thinks flower season is comming, but you started out at 12/12 so your plants might think they are just growing, :P try shortening light cycle?

[chaosmonger]

this lighting regime would really only be beneficial if you are short of head height and have some lanky pure sats . seeing as it's taken this long to get tham that big, it seems you might be better off doing 18/6 for a week or so then doing the flip to 12/12 IMO.having said that. i certainly wouldn't change anything now, and ruin the experiment totally. stick with it and note the results for next time.it's all an adventure growing canna

[murderouspanda]

Originally Posted by chaosmonger

this lighting regime would really only be beneficial if you are short of head height and have some lanky pure sats . seeing as it's taken this long to get tham that big, it seems you might be better off doing 18/6 for a week or so then doing the flip to 12/12 IMO.having said that. i certainly wouldn't change anything now, and ruin the experiment totally.

thanks for the advice

stick with it and note the results for next time.it's all an adventure growing canna

couldn't have put it better myself! +rep

[youngandstupid]

i'm trying a 12/12 from seed grow as well. My oldest plant started flowering by day 20 but I couldn't tell sex until a few days later (I prolly just suck). It was male and suposedly they show earlier so maybe a female will take a few more days. It started flowering at only 2 inches high but it was a shorty to begin with. Once the other two show I'll let ya know. But I have no idea why your plants at 2 months haven't shown. What strain are you growing?

[murderouspanda]

I'm just using some bagseed

[youngandstupid]

Okie doke, I didn't know if maybe the strain was an auto-flowering and thus 12/12 didn't matter at all, but I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject so that's it.

[murderouspanda]

I've changed the light cycle to 20/4 and I'm going to let it stay on that for a week, then try going back to 12/12. This is day 2 of 20/4 and the plants really made a huge leap in growth. At this rate they'll be a foot tall in no time.