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How can I make all my clones grow

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You mean with multiple stalks? You top them. You may need to do so more than once to get as many stalks as you want.
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I bought these clones like this I never topped them...they startd growing like that.....the main stalk is only like and inch high and then it just branches off like 6 times.....how do I top a plant that is only an inch tall?

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I have strains that also just grow that way from clone. Sometimes taking a clone from a plant that was recently put into flower can do this. Also I swear that it seems vegging under an LED will achieve this effect. I have only used LED's for veg for the last 3 months but they grow very different under LED's v. HID's. The LED's grow a bushier plant. A buddy and I both switched our veg rooms from HID to LED because we were getting better veg results with the LED.

But I do not believe that clone was topped in any way. I mean it could have been, but that would not explain how there is a branch shooting out of every node. Most likely I'd say it was one of the first two things I said above ^^^. My guess is strain related.

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You don't top plants that are an inch tall. What happens is the shoots from a node that is an inch off the ground grow into stalks. You then end up with stalks growing from a point on the plant that's just an inch from the soil surface. Topping is just one way to encourage this to happen.
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How can I make all my clones grow

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then use older plants to clone from .
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You don't top plants that are an inch tall. What happens is the shoots from a node that is an inch off the ground grow into stalks. You then end up with stalks growing from a point on the plant that's just an inch from the soil surface. Topping is just one way to encourage this to happen.


Exactly. When you top, or the grower who started the clones tops, it makes the bottom branches grow and catch up to the top so it looks like that. Instead of having a tall plant with short branches you get a bush with several thick stems at the bottom.

And flowering clones (clones taken in the first couple weeks of flowering when the branch has several pistils) can look like that too. It's like each pistil grows into a new branch. But they usually look funny. I think your plant was just topped.
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Ok so now my question is how do I cut my clones so I can keep my crop growing like this..the picture of the plant I showed u is almost 6 feet tall now and about 4 feet wide and day53 of veg.

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How to top newer clones so that they grow many stalks? Here's a copy of how I like to go about it.

Top vegging plants and leave two nodes on each. Once the two shoots from the top node each have a node on them, they are also topped and one node is left on each. There are now four shoots growing from these two nodes at the top of the plant. By the time those four shoots get growing, the two shoots growing from the very bottom node of the plant reach canopy level, provided they received enough light. Each plant goes into flowering with six stalks, all at roughly the same height.

You could top all six of those stalks to create twelve. What you need to keep in mind is that the more stalks you create, the larger the plant should be when it begins flowering. For example, if you did create twelve stalks and flowered the plant at roughly the same size as one with six stalks, you'd end up with twelve colas that are about half the size of the colas on the six-stalk plant. It would be more training work to ultimately harvest a similar amount. There need to be more fan leaves and a larger root ball to support maximum bud size when increasing the number of colas. My six-headed plants finish at about two feet and I wouldn't try to get any more colas out of that size. However, with the size plants you're talking about, twelve stalks wouldn't be any problem.

Again, there are a few different training methods you could use to get more colas. You can do so entirely through topping, as described above, or you could use other techniques like tying stalks down in lieu of or in addition to topping.

Once you have many stalks to work with, a little LST can be used to spread them apart and improve the growth of lower budsites.

Edited by Jellyman, 24 May 2012 - 09:12 AM.

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Hey jellyman...what goin on with these plants?? Does. Anybody know? The light cycle has never been interupted from 24...and its only three of my plants doing it

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It's hard to say for sure. I saw your other thread before and wasn't confident enough about any diagnosis to chime in. Phosphorus deficiency often causes deformed new leaf growth but it's usually accompanied by necrosis on older leaves. High pH can lock out P and can lead to those same problems.

You might try posting more pics in this or your other thread. Seeing the condition of the rest of the plant, as well as pics of the same problem on other plants, might provide more insight into what the problem is.
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This is a pic of all three plants that are doing it...and I'm thinking that its just bad genetics bcuz I have only had problems with the same 4 clones that I got from the same place...throughout this whole crop I've never had any problems except for with these clones...I just need to know if its safe to flower????

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The plants are actually very healthy for the most part.....the othe problems I've had with the plants were root rot which I cured...they are extremely sensitive to heat I've fixxed that problem and now we are on this node curl is what I'm calling it........the hairs that come out the nodes instead of forming into a full new leaf it forms one single blade and curls around...as if it wanted to start flowering...my guess is maybe its pre flower????? Somebody helllllpppp

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Pull the largest plant and check the roots for binding. It does look like the start of Phosphorus deficiency but a root problem could contribute to a problem with nutrient uptake.
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