Is she ready?

[jlar16]

thats the spirit!

[stonehenge55]

hermies produce feminized seeds, not hermie seeds. though there is a greater chance for those seeds (when plants) to become hermies if they're stressed.

[greentoes]

Originally Posted by stonehenge55

hermies produce feminized seeds, not hermie seeds. though there is a greater chance for those seeds (when plants) to become hermies if they're stressed.

Wrong/right

Hermi seeds will produce female plants with a greater chance to hermi if its a true hermi and always have the hermi trait in it. Not true female plants . Hermi's R a male trait.

[up4anything]

Originally Posted by greentoes

Wrong/right

Hermi seeds will produce female plants with a greater chance to hermi if its a true hermi and always have the hermi trait in it. Not true female plants . Hermi's R a male trait.

that is fundamentally untrue. You would be right if it was a naturally occuring hermie. In the case of Feminizing seeds, you are inducing a plant into a hermie for the purposes of interbreeding. Done repetedly throughout the genetic line, then, yes, you would have a greater liklihood of producing hermies. But, that isn't what we're talking about.

In all my years growing and the hundreds of plants I've grown from femmed seeds, I have only had one or two hermies that occured spontaneously.

[science]

Pick up any good grow book and read about the hermie plants. Every hermie plant will have the hermie gene in it. Look in the cannabis grow bible on page 7 and it will verify to you everything that I have said. Go ahead and read the hole book. If you dont believe me just read the book and find out for yourself. The only reason why I think it is a hermie is because of all of the mature plant sighns. But I could be wrong, cant really be 100% from a picture you know.

[dopenugz]

yo post some nug shots of the manicured buds

[greentoes]

Originally Posted by up4anything

that is fundamentally untrue. You would be right if it was a naturally occuring hermie. In the case of Feminizing seeds, you are inducing a plant into a hermie for the purposes of interbreeding. Done repetedly throughout the genetic line, then, yes, you would have a greater liklihood of producing hermies. But, that isn't what we're talking about.

In all my years growing and the hundreds of plants I've grown from femmed seeds, I have only had one or two hermies that occured spontaneously.

I belive science is right (not sure if this is a hermi) but once a hermi always a hermi. They make fem seed with chemicals, and just because they r fem seeds does not mean 100% female offspring.Don't take my word ,write to Dutch passion the developer of fem seed, Henk the owner will tell ya, female seeds do not grow into female plants under all circumstances.Enviorment factors start influencing sex the moment the seedling has three pair of true leaves.So fundamentally, there R NO 100% female seeds.Again call DP they will tell ya.

[up4anything]

Originally Posted by science

Pick up any good grow book and read about the hermie plants. Every hermie plant will have the hermie gene in it. Look in the cannabis grow bible on page 7 and it will verify to you everything that I have said. Go ahead and read the hole book. If you dont believe me just read the book and find out for yourself. The only reason why I think it is a hermie is because of all of the mature plant sighns. But I could be wrong, cant really be 100% from a picture you know.

think I rather go by all my textbooks and lecturers from when I studied agriculture and agronomy. The term "genetic trait" and "gene" are not interchangeable.

[up4anything]

Originally Posted by greentoes

They make fem seed with chemicals

not always, and not even the majority of the time

Originally Posted by greentoes

just because they r fem seeds does not mean 100% female offspring

read my posts again. is that what I claimed?

Originally Posted by greentoes

Don't take my word ,write to Dutch passion the developer of fem seed,

1) I have better things to do
2) Developer? LOL! Feminizing seeds has been around long before Henk or anyone there was even born

Originally Posted by greentoes

female seeds do not grow into female plants under all circumstances.Enviorment factors start influencing sex the moment the seedling has three pair of true leaves.So fundamentally, there R NO 100% female seeds

I don't think anyone here EVER disputed this. Go back and re-read what was said.

[greentoes]

First of all my friend if thhey don't make fem seeds with chemicals they STRESS them no other way!

speak of reading go back and read # 34 i think it was , were u say something about natural, which I said "true hermi". Read carefull.

better things to do? yes read a book LOL
I can tell ya were i got my info, and ur's? Oh that must have came from ur book. What was the title of that again?Yes DP was the first to come out with fem seeds 1998 which was called female seeds , after finding out it's the envorment that plays a bigger role , switched the name to feminized seeds.So who was it that came up with fem seeds?Or at lease got the credit? Or didn't i read ur post right? LOL

[SmknVTEC]

Ladies ladies ladies, please. Allow me to settle this conversation with a passage from Mel Franks book Marijuana Growers Insider's Guide. Mel and Up4anything are the only two in here who know what they are talking about.

Producing Female seeds by Mel Frank p. 296,297

To develop seed that will yield exclusively female plants requires some luck and careful observation, but it is simple. Remember that some female plants occasionally bear an isolated male flower. Marijuana plants are normally either female (xx chromosomes) or male (xy chromosome). MJ plants, although predisposed genetically to be male or female, have a degree of latitude that very often is affected by the environment. A plant that should be exclusively female may bear an occasional male flower and vice versa. THE POLLEN FROM THIS ISOLATED MALE FLOWER ON A FEMALE PLANT HAS ONLY THE X CHROMOSOMES, the genes for female plants. By carefully collecting the pollen from this male flower and pollinating female flowers (which also carry only x chromosomes), ALL THE RESULTING SEED WILL YIELD PROSPECTIVELY FEMALE PLANTS (XX CHROMOSOMES).

The only difficulty to producing female seed is in finding an actual source of female pollen. Many South East Asian plants characteristically bear some male flowers among mostly female flowering buds. These seeds give rise to seeds that will reflect their parents; that is, female buds mixed with male flowers. Don’t breed these natural hermaphrodites. What you want to find is that rare female plant that perhaps develops one or two male flowers. This plant is genetically female. Carefully collect her pollen, and fertilize an exclusively female plant; ALL THE RESULTING SEEDS DEVELOP INTO PURE FEMALES. The only other certain candidate for female pollen is a female that has flowered well with pure female flowers, but late in life the plant reverses to male flowering. This is not that unusual when the plants are left to grow for an extended time, or if there is an erratic photoperiod.

Usually you have to wait for an unusual happenstance to find a solitary male flower on a female plant, but, there are presently known SIX DIFFERENT CHEMICAL TREATMENTS THAT INDUCE FERTILE MALE FLOWERS TO GROW ON FEMALE PLANTS. Gibberellic Acid (GA) is the chemical most commonly available

[greentoes]

Originally Posted by SmknVTEC

A plant that should be exclusively female may bear an occasional male flower and vice versa. THE POLLEN FROM THIS ISOLATED MALE FLOWER ON A FEMALE PLANT HAS ONLY THE X CHROMOSOMES, the genes for female plants. By carefully collecting the pollen from this male flower and pollinating female flowers (which also carry only x chromosomes), ALL THE RESULTING SEED WILL YIELD PROSPECTIVELY FEMALE PLANTS (XX CHROMOSOMES).

The only difficulty to producing female seed is in finding an actual source of female pollen. Many South East Asian plants characteristically bear some male flowers among mostly female flowering buds. These seeds give rise to seeds that will reflect their parents; that is, female buds mixed with male flowers. Don’t breed these natural hermaphrodites. What you want to find is that rare female plant that perhaps develops one or two male flowers. This plant is genetically female. Carefully collect her pollen, and fertilize an exclusively female plant; ALL THE RESULTING SEEDS DEVELOP INTO PURE FEMALES. The only other certain candidate for female pollen is a female that has flowered well with pure female flowers, but late in life the plant reverses to male flowering. This is not that unusual when the plants are left to grow for an extended time, or if there is an erratic photoperiod.

Usually you have to wait for an unusual happenstance to find a solitary male flower on a female plant, but, there are presently known SIX DIFFERENT CHEMICAL TREATMENTS THAT INDUCE FERTILE MALE FLOWERS TO GROW ON FEMALE PLANTS. Gibberellic Acid (GA) is the chemical most commonly available

I agree with ya Miss ,except U can't use the term Male when u are only talking about x chromosomes. U can not have a XX male , what ya have is an XXY male . Sure it may not show any male parts in that grow, but down the road, (ithink as u said).Any Y chrom = male . No Y= female

Any overt application of growth hormones such as B9 hormone, gibberellins,cytokinins,abscisic acid, ethylene,cultrihine,ect. cause more trouble than they are worth. (indoor bible) hell do it with asprin.

I'm not here to bust ball just understand, the right way , this is a big debate on a few forums. Peace

[science]

Im just saying from experience and the grow books that i have looked in that hermies produce hermies. That is all im saying. And I am not saying for sure if it is a hermie plant or not. But all the sighns point to hermie for me thats all.