Posssible Ferts?

[DjViP2002]

Right now my plant has been up (out of soil) for about 4 days and I was trying to get ahead and get the ferts ready for when I need them, in 3-5 weeks or so. Well I was looking around in the backyard and I found some ferts for possible use. Here they are...
19-21-17
29-3-4

Which one(s) should I use and in what stage or time period from now should I use it? Thanks

[NaughtyDread]

whats going on DJ? the answer to your question is going to be the fert that has the higher NPK value. you will use it for veg and use the other for flowering. if you dont know what NPK is or what those letters stand for, you may want to do some reading. with you having to ask which to use, ive got to assume you havent read any gro guides to get an understanding of whats needed at the different stages of the plants life other than that from the values youve given, sounds like youve got some excellent ferts to work with!

[DjViP2002]

so I should use the 19-21-17 fert for vegitation and the 29-3-4 for flowering? I know it means Nitrogen,Phosphorus and Potassium. I took chemisrty last year so I know... I know thatthe first one is orchid fert and the second is terf (grass) fert. I guess I got lucky huh? SHIMY?

[unoit]

HIGH All, the other way around my friend..and you should wait another week before feeding and when you do feed them less than what the recommended dose says.

[Gouch]

Use the 29-3-4 for veg.

The 19-21-17 is too high on nitrogen for flowering. My opinion.

[DjViP2002]

what if i dolute it,,,you know, add more water then what the does say...
and when do I start to feed for the vegg, keep in mind the plant is 4 days old with a inch long steam and the leafs are now bigger then that first round ones...

[unoit]

HIGH All, no watering it down won't work...what type of fert is it..name on the box or bottle?

[DjViP2002]

19-31-17 is ordhid fert and the 29-3-4 is scotts turf builder, for grass and stuff...which ones(s) should I use and when should I use it?

here are some pics of 2 different plants, the leafs look greener then they really are...

[TheyCallMeRed]

Is fertalizer what i would ask for in a store like home depot or lowes? Ive looked through the growing supplies they have there and there are a bunch of different terms...fertalizer, potting soil...ect. What is safe to grow in? I hear if you use the wrong things with your plant, it can be deadly to smoke?

[DjViP2002]

like i said...

19-31-17 is ordhid fert and the 29-3-4 is scotts turf builder, for grass and stuff...which ones(s) should I use and when should I use it?
i can see the turf builder working for vegg and the exotic flower food working during flowering...see the logic in it?

[NaughtyDread]

since you have no plans on reading and learning, here ya go, figuring this out does require READING:


Fertilizing Tips "The elements Nitrogen, Phosphorus, and Potassium are considered the important nutrients for strong growth.
Calcium can be used to control the pH.
Adding ample Nitrogen ensures fast lush growth, enabling a Cannabis plant to outgrow almost any other plant.
Cannabis' need for phosphorus is the greatest during the seedling and flowering stages of it's life cycle.
Potassium is associated with strong sturdy stems and plants with a high resistance to diseases and pests.
Calcium is not added to the soil as a nutrient, but rather to balance the pH of the soil.
To grow to a large size, marijuana requires a steady supply of nutrients, which should be added to the water on a regular basis.
The amount of nutrients to add to the water depends on the size of the plant, the size of the pot, and the general condition of the soil.
Always add water when you add any nutrients or fertilizer to the soil.
It is recommended that you dissolve the fertilizer in the water before watering the plant.
Adding more nutrients than a plant requires will toxify the soil thereby harming plant growth and development.
Foliar feeding, or spraying the leaves with a fertilizer solution, is an ideal way of fertilizing large plants with nutrient deficiencies.
Nutrient deficiencies can best be detected by a change in the condition and colour of the leaves.
Soilless mixtures are a good alternative to using large amounts of soil, the main advantage being that the nutrient balance is easy to control.
The pH is the measure of how alkaline or acidic the soil is and it's balance is determined by the amount of nutrients present in the soil.
Although marijuana will grow in soils with a pH between five and nine, it thrives in soils with a neutral pH of around seven.
Soils with a high content of organic matter are often quite acidic with a fairly low pH.
Calcium can be used to balance the pH.
Most nutrients are soluble in soils with a pH balance of between six and seven and a half.
Continued use of Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium will lower the pH of the soil, this can be rectified by adding some Calcium.
To save overfertilized plants, the soil can be leached by removing the top few centimeters and overwatering with lukewarm water.
Although healthy, strong growing plants love a steady supply of nutrients, you should never fertilize them every day.
A plant growing in a poor soil, low in nutrients will develop better than a plant growing in overfertilized soil.
Although Carbon Dioxide cannot be classified as a true nutrient, it can been used to increase growth during the vegetative stage.
To balance the pH of an acidic soil, crush some egg-shells and soak them in water. Then strain out the shells and pour the water over your plants.
A soil rich in Nitrogen will increase internodal growth in the stems of developing young marijuana plants.
Unless the soil is poor in nutrients, a young seedling growing in a large pot doesn't require any fertilizing for the first few weeks of it's life.
Although Cannabis does not grow well in a soil with a low nutrient content, this is preferable to a soil that has been toxified by over-fertilization.
The influence of the soil, and in particular the nutrient content of the soil, to the potency of the plant is something which cannot be overlooked.
Nitrogen can be positively correlated with higher potency and increased growth, and it is the most influential nutrient available to the grower.
Organic fertilizers are less concentrated than chemical mixes, and as the nutrients are released more slowly, there is less chance of toxifying the soil.
A typical program of fertilization may be to fertilize after the fifth week of growth, and then every two weeks thereafter until flowering.
It is always better to fertilize your plants more often with a more diluted solution, than to give them concentrated doses at longer intervals.
Always make sure that the fertilizer is completely dissolved in the water before you apply it to your plants.
It takes less Nitrogen than other nutrients to toxify the soil, and hence there is less margin for error when using it as a fertilizer."

i didnt write it, but there is plenty of info for you to read. no one is going to answer such a basic question unless you do some reading. and on top of that you were told which fert to use first

[DjViP2002]

so how will these work?
19-31-17 is ordhid fert and the 29-3-4 is scotts turf builder, for grass and stuff...which ones(s) should I use and when should I use it?
i can see the turf builder working for vegg and the exotic flower food working during flowering...see the logic in it?

[Splifster]

do you see the logic..? did you really read what he/anyone posted.. because you dont seem to be comprehending.. do you have a problem with buying another type of fertilizer.. seems the 29-3-4 or scotts turf builder would work for veggin.. perhaps you should buy a different fert for flowering instead of the ordhid.. one with less Nitrogen perhaps. But in general you want higher Nitrogen during vegging and Higher Phoshphorous during flowering.. see the logic in it?

[DjViP2002]

yes sir...thanks...will the turf builder work for now?

to see pics of my plant look under the General Indoor Growing and the Thread is named " Pics of My Plant, Very Young" Thanks again