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congrats on getting it started man...but I would think about your lighting if you want 8-12 plants. CFL/PC wont be enough...its the actual wattage not the equivilent wattage that you need.

Being your from a saltwater hobby(I used to keep a 135g sps dominated tank for yrs) I would suggest a real good cleaning to remove anything that is stuck to the pump you showed(algae not good, neither is salt build up).

If your looking to start in hydro and want a easy option check out the thread in my sig for hempy buckets(passive hydro set up). But before you get to far ahead of yourself(germing seeds) I would have a plan of action as far as the style of grow your going to do. I dont know how many time I have seen people so eager to start growing they germ thier seeds and then try and finish setting up grow space while waiting...never seems to work out for them.

As far as making seeds, I would also say think about growing out a male and collecting the pollen and storing in the freezer so you dont have to worry about pollenating all your crops(pollen travels easy). Build a Isolation chamber for the male then you can grow it next to females without any worry(or your going to end up with far too many seeds)...Most people pollenate a lower branch or two for seeds, since we are not breeder selling seeds you wont need that many.

Good luck,
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PS: OSB is a type of plywood basically

[W.A. grower]

OSB is boards like ply wood but it us made out of thin strips of wood glued together at different angles.oriented strand board (OSB)http://osbguide.tecotested.com/

[W.A. grower]

Thoughts on fresh air intake?

[zpyro]

Originally Posted by trillyen

Ok first off lmao at zpryo, your crazy man but really helpful u probably dont even recall your ast post to me huh man??? lol

secondly, what the hell is OSB, i mean i know what ply wood is ans 2x2 abd 2x4s but never herd of that i have the faintest clue

OSB= oriented stranded board. Basically plywood, but its not made out of flat sheets of wood, its made from shredded up pieces of wood laminated together. It's cheap, I think I got it for like $7-8 per 4x8 sheet @ home depot

Are your CFLs actually 100w, or 100w equivalent?

I have no idea what ur 1st paragraph means..lol

[trillyen]

Originally Posted by zpyro

I have no idea what ur 1st paragraph means..lol

what first paragraph, ZPYRO, u been getting high on your own supply again???

lol i havent got my CFL yet so neither but im glad u said that i will make sure i get 100 watt not the equiv, thank u

Hey numb im glad u mentioned the cleaning of my pumps and such i didnt think about that at all man, wow u just saved me alot of trouble, as far as my males im talking about keeping a male plant in with my mothers in the veg room, when they bud ill already know which one is male so im not gonna clone the father that much just when i want seeds or something like that, im not gonna have a male in every crop, no way man thatd be crazy and a waste of space

i am just talking about using pc/cfl on my veg room im not gonna use it on my precious buds thats nt it at all, i just dont see it necessary to run 2 halides if i can get the same results of a lower wattage ( electric bill saving) CFL, believe me id like to but i wanna try the cfls first then if they dont work ill move up to halides, hell i may do it any way i got like 3 ballasts 1 magnetic and 2 electronic all 250 watters

i had a 75 gallon reef, sps lps, and a clam and some softies, i still got a 125 gallon with a dory ( blue tang) and some clown fish, and scotter blennyies, conchs etc..

w.a. grower, i have some smart fans left over from my old hobby it basically has a thermometer on the end of the fan and the hotter it gets the faster the fan blows im probably gonna put them on my buds, and for the veg room i shouldnt have to many heat issues with the cfls, but im just probably gonna use some reg pc fans, and if that dont help ill upgrade accordingly, ill have a intake and out take on both, and i may add an extra intake for both later if i must!!!, but thanks for the idea trust me i need them keep them coming

i really havent seen any how to build a grow box adds the way im going about it at all on here, im happy i could be 1 of the first to add one, it would just be nice to have some thing to go by!!!

i know on the sides of my grow box walls im gonna have notches that the lights fixtures can set on as i have to raise them, if i do decide to go with dirt id like to know with what kind of out take water thing im gonna go with, just those plastic containers under the pots or something else, i really dont know

im really steering towards a bubble bucket, i really wanna go all hydro, but im gonna go hydro on some practice seeds that i dont care about really, and see how that goes

Okay, went to freaking lowes before work today, and im looking for the cheap ass plywood i bought back when i was building a canopy for my aquarium, and they dont sell the thin ass plywood like i bought not even 1 year and a half ago or either they were out but they did have these 4 x 8 THICK sheets that i wouldnt mind having just for its thickness and they were only like 4 or 5 bucks at lowes but they were huge, and they were painted like a neon yellow on the edges of the wood i mean my grow box aint gonna be beautiful but i dont think id like the look of that yellow.

I was just planning on buying that thin ass ply wood i got last time to build my canopy but it was like 10 to 22 bucks now and i dont really remember paying that much for it at all, plus id rather have the thicker wood for a cheaper, i just dont like that loud ass color they paint the edges, i dont know, im gonna get the 4 to 5 dollar stuff i guess and go from there

i also got some what looks to be imitation rock wool things, u pour water on top of them and they swell up and surround it til it sprouts i guess, and u can leave it in this thing for life, it came with a green house little thing also, so i figured what the hel

The green house thing dont have no holes in it do i need to cut some into it for CO 2 exchange and things???







thngs are coming along good im just really not excited about building these boxes, im ready to get it over with trust me

thanks ALOT!!!!

[zpyro]

Originally Posted by trillyen

what first paragraph, ZPYRO, u been getting high on your own supply again???

Originally Posted by trillyen

Ok first off lmao at zpryo, your crazy man but really helpful u probably dont even recall your ast post to me huh man??? lol

Seriously, wtf are you talking about???

[shogun805sb]

hey im kinda of new at all this. my first plant has sprouted, any tip will be hellpfull, my plant is grown out side . i want my plant to be short and stokey
with plenty of buds i live in cali.

[trillyen]

Originally Posted by zpyro

Maybe, if you're any good at carpentry, make like a modular design of like 2' tall sections so when the plants get too tall just unscrew the top panel, toss another section on, and you've got another 2' of room. I dunno, I'm just high

i said u were crazy cause of this sorry bout the confusion

[trillyen]

Originally Posted by shogun805sb

hey im kinda of new at all this. my first plant has sprouted, any tip will be hellpfull, my plant is grown out side . i want my plant to be short and stokey
with plenty of buds i live in cali.

im not sur i would recommend pruning the plant after the second set of leaves to keep it kind of short and to do that every so often to keep it kinda bushy, but i may be wrong, or either u could tie it down but that might draw attention to it!!

[W.A. grower]

trillyen-

You could always sand the edges of the wood

Those dehydrated pucks are peat moss. they're good for seeds and they show their moisture content well

some small quarter sized holes in the greenhouse would be good. one on either end is what mine has.


shogun805sb-
you can make your own thread if you need advice, but for tips
-good dirt
-organic nutes
-LST or topping

Peace

[trillyen]

Originally Posted by W.A. grower

trillyen-

You could always sand the edges of the wood

Those dehydrated pucks are peat moss. they're good for seeds and they show their moisture content well

some small quarter sized holes in the greenhouse would be good. one on either end is what mine has.


shogun805sb-
you can make your own thread if you need advice, but for tips
-good dirt
-organic nutes
-LST or topping

Peace

yea i guess i could sand that yellow off but thats just more work damn im gonna be building this thing longer than im gonna be growing, dang, oh well i hope its all worth it

thanks for the help, i cant wait to this weekend!!!

[blaze dat haze]

hahaha instant ocean, im using my old T5 lights for my grow box im going to setup imagine if i used my metal halides =p my tank needs that set tho. you still keep a salt water tank? i think you will agree with me when i say saltwater and growing are a great mix cuz of all the materials we gather =p i use the same r.o system as you too.

[trillyen]

yea they do go hand and hand dont they man,yea i still got my 125 gl going but i shut my 75 gallon reef down

i got 1 halide on my 125 and like 2 on my 75 reef im gonna take the 1 off of my 125 and use it for my flowering room i guess.

yea i got the reef system ro/di unit, it gets my water down to 0 ppm and thats just awesome

did u ever go to saltwater fish. com, or reeffrontiers.com or even jimdreef. com they are some really good sw sites i loved them

i got a blue tang and some true percs im interested in getting rid of, and other things 250 lbs of live rock and some other things, dirt cheap!!!

thanks for the comments!!!!

[trillyen]

Alright, wow i got alot of work done tonight, and now this thread is ofically started, sorry it was kinda a slow start up, but so far this is the space i plan to grow in!!!

this will be the maw and paw area!!!


AND ABOUT 3 FEET AWAY THE ROOM WHERE THE MAGIC HAPPENS!!!


As of right now both rooms are gonna be 5 feet tall 4 feet wide and 24 in deep a pretty good size room if i say so my self.

I got my wood last weel, and just started piecing some ideas toget her tonight well technically last night but i ran into some trouble

NEVER DO THIS WHEN TRYING TO BUILD A GROW BOX IT WAS A DISASTER

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i tried drilling the legs straight on to the top of my grow box without a structure, kinda like putting the tire on a car and not the LUG NUTS to hold it on, needless to say when i tried to turn it over it collapsed, i then decided, and figured out that i needed a frame to screw the long clumbsy legs onto!!!

SO i then cut the 2x2 wood boards to the length i needed for my project after meausring....


and pieced them all together using corner braces for stability....








I then screwed my new frame to the board THAT I WAS TRYING TO USE FOR MY FRAME THE WRONG WAY THE 1st TIME LIKE I SAID EARLIER....






As u can see i didnt use the white board i had earlier when i was doing it the wrong way it turned out to be to small for the frame i built, i used regular PLY WOOD this time.

I then added the 5 foot legs to the top half of the frame... As u can see in this next pic, i left room in the frame work accounting for where i am going to put the legs at, and HELL no they didnt fit in there PERFECT for me any way it might be a different story for u but they fit in there good enough, and they are now very stable!!!




I then put some wod screws into the legs that went all the way into the top frame of the grow box that i built earlier for real strong stability, i put about 4 total 2 on each side, not a very good pic but u get the idea tho i hope!!




I then built another frame for the bottom of the grow box to sit on...


and i added the bottom section to the new frame with some screws like i did earlier the same exact way


After that i flipped the grow box over and sat it on the new frame ( to ad it was very stable when i flipped it and didnt break how it did when i built it the wrong way).




then i CAREFULLY situated the bottom frame under the grow box and drilled everything in just like i did onthe top half!!!!







I also started to add my siding as u can see in the pics above to start to close the box in

Well it was hard work but once u get into it its kinda fun....

thanks for reading and i hope this helps some one out, its nice to have some thing to go buy, i know this thread aint the most detailed i just tried to cover all the basics hope i got it all, thanks for reading!!!!

[W.A. grower]

Looks good can't wait to see it finished

I don't know if it's easier, but here's the way I did it.

Screw all the 2x2 boards together. Then screw on the corner brackets. Finally, put the plywood and the doors on - which were a bitch for me.