Need Info about autoflowering strains Joint Dr.'s Lowrider 2 X Soma's Sour Diesel

[your_local420]

Hello fellow growers. Reading all the information on this site from all you good people gave me the confidence to start growing my own! I experimented with bag seed the first time and actually kept the plants alive till budding thanks to all the helpful info read here. Now I am on to a new challenge!

I just recieved in the mail today a wonderful package from the DR. containing Joint Dr.'s Lowrider 2 X Soma's Sour Diesel autoflowering strain. I read after I ordered that the male to female ration is terrible with Lowrider strains.

Well after learning from alot of mistakes I made with my first grow I want to make sure that I don't mess up my good genetics! I am getting ready to tool up to grow and I was hoping some one could shed some light on autoflowering strains!

I plan on growing it hydroponically using DWC buckets built off Rumpleforeskins bubble bucket plans (thanx again for the info) I'm a little confused on what light to use. I have a 600W hps but I had severe heating problems in my little room and nuked my plants. (that and not being able to check my soil PH) but I did get some bud and learned a ton. Anyway I also have some floresents I bought for vegitation from hydro farm. I have rooting plugs. Installing a R/O water system tomorrow.

I was hoping someone could tell me if I can grow the plants start to finish using florescent lighting. The cost factor and heat issues would help me if I could use florescents but i will tool up properly the HPS would benefit me. How long do i run the lights? Since it is autoflowering do I leave them on or do i run them 12/12. What nutes do I use? Since it autoflowers do I change my solution from flowering from vegging? I saw some where in the forums someone is currently working with the exact strain and i cannot find the posts for the life of me. Any help would be appreciated and I plan on posting a very detailed grow journal to keep everyone posted so help me and I will do my absolute best to update my progress that might help you. Thanks to everyone who helped me so far.

I apologize for the inconvenience for the earlier posts I had no Idea that stoners were english professors. Thanks in advance for the help everyone!

[marygoround]

Please don't make two threads. Don't forget people are out at work and coming home now and having dinner. Also, please keep in mind that breaking that wall of text down into paragraphs will make it easier to read.

As for your questions, I will answer the ones I can. Before I do, please keep in mind I have never grown an autoflowering strain, but have read up on them. My response below is based on the best of my knowledge.

CFL's = 6500k for veg, and 2700k for flowering
Use 6500k and 2700k together for optimal results
T
he plant automatically flowers, but it has to veg. While it veges focus more on blue spectrum (6500k) once it starts to flower, switch to primarily (2700k).

Diesel Ryder flowers automatically at 3-4 weeks and finishes in 8-9 from seed. Use as a guide.

[your_local420]

My intentions wern't to start 2 threads my computer wasn't responding so I accidently pushed the button twice sorry to wreck your day. IF it is too much of a problem to read my post then don't. I am 40yrs old dude dont talk to me like a child. Have a great Day!

[marygoround]

Im not talking to you like a child. I was trying to give you advice. I see threads like this all the time that go unanswered. You think you are the only 40 yearold on these forums or something? You act like it makes you superior. Next time u ask for help, don't insult the one person that makes an attempt to help you. You are one immature 40 yearold, sir. Also, I was online during both thread creations. They happend a while apart. Don't say it was a browser mistake when you are just impatient.

[your_local420]

Thanks for the investigation over post times! Hey man I am not lookin for argument. I read threads for hours and there are alot of posts pretty f'd up and people are still friendly I just take offense when someone bitches about how I post or what time I post.

1. Thanks for tryin to help me I truely appreciate it!. I just simply wanna know if an autoflowering plant takes the same type of nutes as a non auto flowering plant.

2. Can I grow from start to finish with florescent lights or do I need to switch to my HPS bulb after a while.

I am aware of the Lumens needed to grow a plant. I am just trying to save electricity and cut down heat in my broom closet. With other grows I had to switch nutes between veg and flower and change light and light cycles.

Since it flowers by age and not light cycles. How do I feed. Do I leave the light on 24/24 or 18/6 or 12/12.

I plan on using Advanced Nutrients Organic setup but there is a formula for veg and different nutes for flowering do I need to change nutes?

If I came off rude I apolgise but your post offended me! Sorry I interfered with your dinner. Please finish your dinner and if you need to take time and sleep on your decision with your reply it is not life and death that I hear from you immediately. Calm down smoke a spliff and take a deep breath you may live longer

I was simply looking for some simple information not someone to jump my ass about how i post. Thanks for the reply but if you have never grew an autoflowering strain then don't waste your time and mine replying to the post. Once again i am truely sorry to inconvenience you during your dinner that was not my intentions.

[kbfl0912]

Hey there! I grew my first autoflowering strain....AK47 X Lowryder not too long ago. I grew it entirely under flouros. And, found that it didn't like alot of nutes. Here is a link to my journal of the grow, if you are interested. Lots of info. Good luck!

http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...ml#post2197781

[your_local420]

You did this all in an aerogarden? Simply amazing! Thanks so much for the information! I am definately rethinking my stragedy on how I want to grow now. I think I am going to abandon my bubble buckets and build a rubbermaid DWC for the autoflowering strains so I can save room. It doesn't look like I will need the root capacity of a 5 gallon bucket for these low growing strains.

When I ordered my seeds from the doctor they sent me an extra 12 seeds in a seperate container labeled CS (commercial strain?) Is this a combo of unknown origin? I was planning of putting 5 of each in my rapid rooter till roots come and keeping them all under the 18/6 till I can harvest the auto flowering strain. Then I was going to take the CS seeds and start to flower them while I smoke my Lowrider 2 X Sour Diesel strain.

Will this be vegging the CS too long? Also how weak did you run your nutes in the aerogarden and which AN feeding plan did you buy? Did you go with the light feeding setup?

Special thanks for what you posted so far you helped me out alot. I currently am not in a Med Mj state and I have been diagnosed with cancer and I read alot on what Ricky Smith did at Phoenix Tears and am hoping I can find some relief. All of you people that post (politely) gives me hope that I can overcome this. Thanx again!

[basementhydro]

I don't have any first-hand experience with auto-flowering strains, but I can offer some advice on a couple other points.

First, you're going to want to find a way to use the HPS. That's just a given. If you've got an HID light it seems an awful waste not to use it. Of course the heat is a problem with those but in my book that just means you need to find a way to solve that problem so the light can be used. The difference in results is night and day. Read up on how to air-cool that puppy.

Also, the difference between vegetative and flowering nutrients is important. You want to get both and use them appropriately. That doesn't mean doing exactly what the bottle or the calculator says because you'll need to make adjustments for your specific conditions and strain. (I think those numbers are based on idea strains under optimum conditions.) If you've got any questions I recommend hopping on AN's website and calling the help line number they have. They've always had great answers for me.

Chances are that no matter what problem or question you've got they've heard it already and know the answer.

I've got a couple of LR2's on the go, check the link in my sig.

GL matey

[your_local420]

I finally ordered the rest of my gear to get started. I got my DWC buckets, hydroton, PH tester, TDS meter, Lights, Nutes, and Ph buffers comin. I already have the seeds and a stealthy place to grow. I will be taking pics of my closet and maybe you can give me some ideas on how to ventilate it. If I get the proper ventilation maybe I will break out my HPS and put my floros away. Thanks to everyone so far.

[kbfl0912]

I didn't see where anyone addressed your question about lighting. I find that if I keep my lights on a constant 20 hours on 4 hours off for the entire grow....you will get the most out of the autoflowering strains. You don't change the lights to 12/12. After about 3 weeks, they will start and continue to flower under 20/4.

[hydrocult]

Do you feel you get better results with 20/4 than with 18/6?

I've seen a lot of things that say plants need at least 6 hours of rest each day of vegging.

[your_local420]

Ok I just got my PH and TDS meters and the Floral Nova today. My lights and small buckets are on their way. In the mean time I have been reading alot of threads on feeding.

This is my first hydroponics grow, and my first grow on anything but bagseed. I plan on using the Lucas Formula. However, I read a feed straight from Lucas himself and he recommends feeding 0-8-16 straight through full strength under HID lights and 0-5-10 under floro's. He also states that there is no need to ever change the reservoir till harvest just use his add back formula and everything will work out! Has anyone ever tried this?

I am afraid of using full strength nutes and nuking my plants!

As soon as my stuff comes in I will start to germinate and get things started I aplolgise for not starting sooner but my online HYDRO store lost my order. I wanted to start over 2 weeks ago. Now I have to buy some overpriced schwag again. If anyone could answer this for me I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks again guys I will try to liven this thread up shortly.

[basementhydro]

Originally Posted by your_local420

I am afraid of using full strength nutes and nuking my plants!

Easy solution to that: just dilute it a bit. Start off a tad lighter than full strength and then dial it up when you feel safe doing it.

There's a bit of a range between harmful underfeeding and harmful overfeeding. Ideally you want to feed them as much as they can eat but a bit less than that just slows them down slightly - it doesn't hurt them. You can dial back the nutes a fair bit before you actually start to hurt the plant with underfeeding.

You'll notice the signs of some kind of deficiency before its a major problem, then you just increase the nutrients until they're happy.