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Old 05-08-2008, 10:55 AM
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Classifying seeds, Vigoro fertilizer, and MG?

I have read multiple places that there is a way to determine sativa from indica just by examining their seeds. I've also read that this is not true. However, after hearing a decent explanation from a friend (who could totally be making this up) I decided to ask.

Also, has anyone ever heard of Vigoro fertilizer? It comes as a liquid solution and you add half a capfull to 2 gallons of water for a feeding. Any reviews at all? It is a 10:10:10 ratio so the ratio is right, and I chose 10:10:10 over 20:20:20 because I hear most people recommending that you cut down the strength to 1/4 or as low as possible because of over-nutrifying.

I'd like to get opinions on MG Organic. I've heard people argue over it, but there seems to be a lot of disagreement and variation in the types of organic people are using. Some people say it's shit, but there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. Obviously it isn't perfect either.

The one I'm using is a potting mix. Its NPK is .1:.05:.05. So this is a very low nutrient, organic, reasonably fine-grained, but definitely absorbent soil. There are some big chunks (size of a finger nail) here and there but it is mostly pretty soft and absorbent. I haven't added perlite, but I will as soon as I find some. Any suggestions for very common soils that I should use instead if the MG starts causing problems? I would need to be able to find it at a home depot or walmart.

I just placed three seeds that were showing a root break through into soil. They are outdoor buds, I spoke with the grower/seller about this and he has been growing this strain outdoors with success but he said he got his seeds from bags and just grows the ones that sprout. So, as far as I can tell it is an indica that does well outdoors.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:59 PM
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You aren't going to be able to tell seeds apart. There are very very few strains that are purely sativa or indica these days anyway. Nearly all are hybridized to some degree so Sativa or Indica traits could show up.

Never used Vigoro ferts (have used their mulch) but that is a decent ratio for vegetative mode. I would be concerned more with the ratio of the numbers rather than the numbers themselves. I would still start out at about 1/4 dose. If the plant shows no sign of nutrient burn you can up the dose gradually.

I never used MG organic but an alternative you may be able to find at Home Depot is ProMix. In fact just a week or two ago they had it on sale for $7 a bag at least in my area. FoxFarm Ocean Forest is another good soil but you'd probably have to find it at a hydro store.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:41 PM
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Thanks, I thought the ratio was all that mattered, but at least this way the full strength of this stuff is half of the others. I am worried about nutrient burn. Also, quick question: I had a plant go from literally no sprout showing at all to a two inch stretched plant with cotyledons in the course of 24 hours. Other people's plants appear to have slowly grown to this height, whereas mine went from 0-2 inches in a day. I have it under a light now, but is this normal?
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