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llama · #1 (**permalink**) 10-22-2007, 02:52 AM

Hey guys I'm new to growing, and my plant is looking a little iffy.

I checked out the plant abuse chart, and it looks like it could either be over watering or nitrogen deficiency.

Its just been transplanted to supersoil brand soil, and it gets mostly plain water, with a little Super thrive once in a while, under 2 18" flouro lights

also, It had a rough transplant due to my lack of skill, so it sustained some root and stem damage, hopefully it will recover...
What do you think?

StarGatherer · #2 (**permalink**) 10-22-2007, 12:38 PM

Looks a little like PH sadness..whats your Ph at?

llama · #3 (**permalink**) 10-22-2007, 04:18 PM

i dont have a ph meter, and i wont be able to get one for another two weeks

llama · #4 (**permalink**) 10-22-2007, 04:19 PM

what is generally done to fix the ph, mabye i could just try it.

Adult_Toke · #5 (**permalink**) 10-22-2007, 04:22 PM

I'm having a similar issue with my seedlings that are a little smaller than yours, one more than the other. My pH test kit says the soil is good (6.5-7.0) but I'm not totally sure about how accurate it is.

I can't believe that I'm overwatering it, either. I only water 3x a week and the soil gets totally dry in between waterings.

ricslat · #6 (**permalink**) 10-22-2007, 04:56 PM

go to a pet store and get a chemy test kit...100% reliable...2.50$...most municipal water is very alkaline

...blue on your test kit...that little ph kit saved my grow...if you have a hydro shop buy ph down for straight watering and you will most likley need ph up for flowering nutes...the recomended veg nute by miracle grow drops my alkaline tap water to the corrrect ph on its own

...must know ph at all times, can't emphasie that enough...cheers.

llama · #7 (**permalink**) 10-23-2007, 02:42 AM

ive been using mostly distilled water...

Segue · #8 (**permalink**) 10-23-2007, 03:21 AM

I'm definitely no expert, but I had plants that looked like that recently. Droopy, yellow on the lower leaves, seemed more interested in growing new leaf sets than growing UP.

I added magnesium in the form of Epsom Salts, one teaspoon per gallon in distilled water, and the plants doubled in size within three or four days! I'm using Miracle Grow organic potting mix, and maybe it doesn't have enough Mg or something. Of course I'm guessing here, but I went from wimpy little one-inch plants to healthy-looking flowering ones in about two weeks.

Okay, one of them was a healthy-looking MALE plant (now deceased), but... At least I got it growing, right?

That might not be your problem, but on the other hand, adding Epsom Salt once probably won't hurt anything. Make sure you mix it up well.

Oh, and my grocery store distilled water is about 6.0 pH. Yours probably is too?

GrowBot · #9 (**permalink**) 10-23-2007, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by llama

Its just been transplanted to supersoil brand soil, and it gets mostly plain water, with a little Super thrive once in a while, under 2 18" flouro lights
also, It had a rough transplant due to my lack of skill, so it sustained some root and stem damage,

your plant is hungry. start feeding at 1/4 strength. also, i'd transplant again and add some perlite to the mix. don't worry too much about damaging roots. when keeping mothers, a massive amount of roots are chopped off annually to keep her smaller, just be careful.

Adult_Toke · #10 (**permalink**) 10-23-2007, 05:35 AM

Well, I got another, nicer pH test today and it gave me different results than my other kit. Turns out my tap is around 8.0, and so I ordered some pH up and down solutions to use when watering from now on.

Does tap water usually stay about the same pH or should I test more often?

ricslat · #11 (**permalink**) 10-23-2007, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adult_Toke

Well, I got another, nicer pH test today and it gave me different results than my other kit. Turns out my tap is around 8.0, and so I ordered some pH up and down solutions to use when watering from now on.

Does tap water usually stay about the same pH or should I test more often?

yeah it will always be 8...do you let your tap water sit for 24 hours?...also get a cheap chemy kit for backup...ph is essential, between 6.5 and 6.8 is ideal for soil grow...

cheers.

IMgreen · #12 (**permalink**) 10-23-2007, 06:58 PM

just my .02

Always check/adjust your PH when you water & feed (after you add nutes) and calibrate your meter once a week to be on the safe side

llama · #13 (**permalink**) 10-24-2007, 03:40 AM

Here is an update, it seems to be growing very slowly now, and the yellowing on the lower leaves is worse.

Like i said i cant afford anything for it right now, so checking the PH is out. I can barely afford .63$ for a gallon of distilled water.

Is it dying? or will it survive?

The baby seems to be growing really slowly too, it has barely sprouted its second set of leaves in like 4 days.

llama · #14 (**permalink**) 10-24-2007, 03:42 AM

could it be the soil? its supersoil brand in the brown bag. I forget the percentages, but it was pretty high in nitrogen...

llama · #15 (**permalink**) 10-24-2007, 03:54 AM

it must be the ferts i used, because it was doing fine before i added those to the mix. I was just growing it in regular miracle grow soil in cut up pop can, and it grew like a weed, then i transplanted it and started using miracle grow and superthrive on em, and now they are suffering, im gonna cut the nutes, and try to flush them a bit with some clean water.

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#1 (permalink) 10-22-2007, 02:52 AM
llama Just some guy Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 146	Help me diagnose my new plant please! (pics) Hey guys I'm new to growing, and my plant is looking a little iffy. I checked out the plant abuse chart, and it looks like it could either be over watering or nitrogen deficiency. Its just been transplanted to supersoil brand soil, and it gets mostly plain water, with a little Super thrive once in a while, under 2 18" flouro lights also, It had a rough transplant due to my lack of skill, so it sustained some root and stem damage, hopefully it will recover... What do you think?

#2 (permalink) 10-22-2007, 12:38 PM
StarGatherer Seasoned bonghitter Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: East Coast Posts: 412	Looks a little like PH sadness..whats your Ph at? __________________ Anything i have said here is just a figment of your imagination.I dont exist as you know it.I have never done an illegal action in my life.

#3 (permalink) 10-22-2007, 04:18 PM
llama Just some guy Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 146	i dont have a ph meter, and i wont be able to get one for another two weeks

#4 (permalink) 10-22-2007, 04:19 PM
llama Just some guy Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 146	what is generally done to fix the ph, mabye i could just try it.

#5 (permalink) 10-22-2007, 04:22 PM
Adult_Toke smoke weed every day Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: IL Posts: 269	I'm having a similar issue with my seedlings that are a little smaller than yours, one more than the other. My pH test kit says the soil is good (6.5-7.0) but I'm not totally sure about how accurate it is. I can't believe that I'm overwatering it, either. I only water 3x a week and the soil gets totally dry in between waterings.

#6 (permalink) 10-22-2007, 04:56 PM
ricslat Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 285	go to a pet store and get a chemy test kit...100% reliable...2.50$...most municipal water is very alkaline...blue on your test kit...that little ph kit saved my grow...if you have a hydro shop buy ph down for straight watering and you will most likley need ph up for flowering nutes...the recomended veg nute by miracle grow drops my alkaline tap water to the corrrect ph on its own...must know ph at all times, can't emphasie that enough...cheers. __________________ presidents and congresses don't lose wars...nations lose wars!!! snappedoffcola planthospital greatpotvid growguide

#7 (permalink) 10-23-2007, 02:42 AM
llama Just some guy Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 146	ive been using mostly distilled water...

#8 (permalink) 10-23-2007, 03:21 AM
Segue Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 173	I'm definitely no expert, but I had plants that looked like that recently. Droopy, yellow on the lower leaves, seemed more interested in growing new leaf sets than growing UP. I added magnesium in the form of Epsom Salts, one teaspoon per gallon in distilled water, and the plants doubled in size within three or four days! I'm using Miracle Grow organic potting mix, and maybe it doesn't have enough Mg or something. Of course I'm guessing here, but I went from wimpy little one-inch plants to healthy-looking flowering ones in about two weeks. Okay, one of them was a healthy-looking MALE plant (now deceased), but... At least I got it growing, right? That might not be your problem, but on the other hand, adding Epsom Salt once probably won't hurt anything. Make sure you mix it up well. Oh, and my grocery store distilled water is about 6.0 pH. Yours probably is too?

#10 (permalink) 10-23-2007, 05:35 AM
Adult_Toke smoke weed every day Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: IL Posts: 269	Well, I got another, nicer pH test today and it gave me different results than my other kit. Turns out my tap is around 8.0, and so I ordered some pH up and down solutions to use when watering from now on. Does tap water usually stay about the same pH or should I test more often?

#12 (permalink) 10-23-2007, 06:58 PM
IMgreen ((targ-cur)/targ)x8xcap Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: a dry and arid place Posts: 2,921	just my .02 Always check/adjust your PH when you water & feed (after you add nutes) and calibrate your meter once a week to be on the safe side __________________ Free Fall Avalanche Grow Soil Growing Revisited - Started Sept 1-ish WW/WR Clone Run 2008 Flowering Since 8.26.08 last ww/wr hydro powered by the lucas formula Bio Matrix Information sick plant guide

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#13 (permalink) 10-24-2007, 03:40 AM
llama Just some guy Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 146	Here is an update, it seems to be growing very slowly now, and the yellowing on the lower leaves is worse. Like i said i cant afford anything for it right now, so checking the PH is out. I can barely afford .63$ for a gallon of distilled water. Is it dying? or will it survive? The baby seems to be growing really slowly too, it has barely sprouted its second set of leaves in like 4 days.

#14 (permalink) 10-24-2007, 03:42 AM
llama Just some guy Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 146	could it be the soil? its supersoil brand in the brown bag. I forget the percentages, but it was pretty high in nitrogen...

#15 (permalink) 10-24-2007, 03:54 AM
llama Just some guy Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 146	it must be the ferts i used, because it was doing fine before i added those to the mix. I was just growing it in regular miracle grow soil in cut up pop can, and it grew like a weed, then i transplanted it and started using miracle grow and superthrive on em, and now they are suffering, im gonna cut the nutes, and try to flush them a bit with some clean water.