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1. heres a shitty pic of my plant.

2. as you can see (i hope), the bottom leaves are very yellow, the middle leaves are kinda yellow. and the top are very green. why is that?

3. i transplanted them into ice cream pails yeaterday but i think they are too small. what size of bucket should i use?

4. one of my buddies trimmed off the bottom leaves or something and "pinched" a part of the plant, now its growing like an "S" is this good? what does it do?

5. like i said, he cut bottom leaves off. should i bury it up to the bototm leaves, how much should i bury if im going to retransplant.

6. my buddies have 20-20-20 tomato fertilizer? will this work, these plants have never had fertilizer. and are totally organic, grown in sunlight.

they are a little over a month old, when should i start 12/12? how long does that take?
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the leaves are yellowing b/c it needs nitrogen or its pot bound, how tall is your plant & pot size? the rule of thumb is 1gal pot per 1ft in plant heigth. ex: 3ft plant = 3gal pot. what leaves did he trim & where did he "pinch" your plant at. when u transplant, just transplant it to the bottom of stem, if you try to go above the stem, you'll get stem rot. a 20-20-20 fert is alright, what brand, is should also contain micro-nutes. when you go to feed start at 1/4 strenght nute & work your way up to full. u can start 12/12 anytime u like, the bigger it is the more bud you'll get, & i dont know what strain your growing but it will take between 7-10wks on 12/12, you want to harvest when 80% of hairs turn orange or when the trichromes are amber. hope this helps, if not ask some more.

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jcj77d... first off, thanks a ton for making this kind of thread! Good to see someone willing out to help out us noobs.

How is your knowledge in hydro grows? I'm have some trouble in the early stages.
ive never grown hydro, but i know about it, what kind of probs u having.
 
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ive heard that the hemp plant when growing natural can bury its roots deep under ground so that when winter comes, the plants roots survive and therefore comeback next year with a developed root system giving you alot more buds. im not sure if this will work but im def willing to try it. Im going to take the roots after harvest and keep them in a bucket full of soil on a window sill. does anyone know if this will work?
 
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ive heard that the hemp plant when growing natural can bury its roots deep under ground so that when winter comes, the plants roots survive and therefore comeback next year with a developed root system giving you alot more buds. im not sure if this will work but im def willing to try it. Im going to take the roots after harvest and keep them in a bucket full of soil on a window sill. does anyone know if this will work?
marijuana is a annual plant that mean its lifecycle is yearly, the roots wont survive w/o any type of foliage above, the plant needs leaves to survive, though they do like there roots to grow deep.
 
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can u take a pic of it. maybe, ill try and work on that...
the leaves are yellowing b/c it needs nitrogen or its pot bound, how tall is your plant & pot size? its about a foot, in a ice cream bucketthe rule of thumb is 1gal pot per 1ft in plant heigth. ex: 3ft plant = 3gal pot. what leaves did he trim & where did he "pinch" your plant at.i have no idea, ill really try and get pics when u transplant, just transplant it to the bottom of stem, if you try to go above the stem, you'll get stem rot.what do you mean? theres like 5 inches of stem, then the first interval a 20-20-20 fert is alright, what brand,ummmm, not sure, ill check next time im over there is should also contain micro-nutes. when you go to feed start at 1/4 strenght nute & work your way up to full. u can start 12/12 anytime u like,good, i think im gonna start soon, any tips? the bigger it is the more bud you'll get, this is my first grow, im not expecting a lot of dank bud of each (only bagseed). id be happy with 1/8 of shit bud off each plant& i dont know what strain your growing but it will take between 7-10wks on 12/12, you want to harvest when 80% of hairs turn orange or when the trichromes are amber. hope this helps, if not ask some more.thanks a lot man.
 
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can u take a pic of it. maybe, ill try and work on that...
the leaves are yellowing b/c it needs nitrogen or its pot bound, how tall is your plant & pot size? its about a foot, in a ice cream bucketthe rule of thumb is 1gal pot per 1ft in plant heigth. ex: 3ft plant = 3gal pot. what leaves did he trim & where did he "pinch" your plant at.i have no idea, ill really try and get pics when u transplant, just transplant it to the bottom of stem, if you try to go above the stem, you'll get stem rot.what do you mean? theres like 5 inches of stem, then the first interval a 20-20-20 fert is alright, what brand,ummmm, not sure, ill check next time im over there is should also contain micro-nutes. when you go to feed start at 1/4 strenght nute & work your way up to full. u can start 12/12 anytime u like,good, i think im gonna start soon, any tips? the bigger it is the more bud you'll get, this is my first grow, im not expecting a lot of dank bud of each (only bagseed). id be happy with 1/8 of shit bud off each plant& i dont know what strain your growing but it will take between 7-10wks on 12/12, you want to harvest when 80% of hairs turn orange or when the trichromes are amber. hope this helps, if not ask some more.thanks a lot man.
dont worry about 1st interval, just transplant it to the level its at now, maybe a 1-2" above will be ok b/c the soil wont stay wet tio long. stem rot is like wood rot, when wood gets wet & stays wet it rots, same appeals to the stem of a mj plant, it will get soggy & soft & rot killing the plant. u can try adding more soil every wk, but i dont see a point in putting the stem under dirt, its the roots that matter. the 20-20-20 should be good, i use a 20-20-20 for veg, once u start u need a fert w/ a high mid # like 5-30-10
 
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dont worry about 1st interval, just transplant it to the level its at now, maybe a 1-2" above will be ok b/c the soil wont stay wet tio long. stem rot is like wood rot, when wood gets wet & stays wet it rots, same appeals to the stem of a mj plant, it will get soggy & soft & rot killing the plant. u can try adding more soil every wk, but i dont see a point in putting the stem under dirt, its the roots that matter. the 20-20-20 should be good, i
use a 20-20-20 for veg, once u start u need a fert w/ a high mid # like 5-30-10

its actually 20-30-20 i added, it has micronutrients and stuff. the plants aernt doing too good, the bottom set of leaves died and really yellow/white and the wind is really fucking them up.
 
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its actually 20-30-20 i added, it has micronutrients and stuff. the plants aernt doing too good, the bottom set of leaves died and really yellow/white and the wind is really fucking them up.
it can take a wk for it to recover from this, whats already damaged real bad wont get better. w/o seeing any pics its really hard to diagnose 100%
 
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marijuana is a annual plant that mean its lifecycle is yearly, the roots wont survive w/o any type of foliage above, the plant needs leaves to survive, though they do like there roots to grow deep.

is there any way to save a plant for the next year? for example could you take a cutting, clone it, keep it in water and keep it on a sunny windowsill till the next year or somehting along those lines? my guess is the shortened lightcycle of the late fall/ winter days will make it impossible but i dont wanna give upo on this idea lol.

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hi a friend of mine is growing some "tommato's/high grade veg" lol, well u know what i mean, the thing is he wants to know if it was possible to grow a kg in a 1m2 area, and what kind of light should how many watts would he need? please he needs help peace bro!!!1
 
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I am wondering if I should trim some of the lower leaves, as they are HUGE and they are blocking out light to the lower new growth. I'm talking these leaves dwarf my hand, and I have big hands!

Oh, I'm farming outdoors, in pots, and I'm not sure of the strain, but they're VERY healthy and dense with leaves!

Another thing, is there a way to get them to start budding sooner than waiting for the days to get short? I can't really cover them, and I'm afraid that they are going to get too big for my camoflauge, which is none! I just don't want the neighbors to spot them.

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is there any way to save a plant for the next year? for example could you take a cutting, clone it, keep it in water and keep it on a sunny windowsill till the next year or somehting along those lines? my guess is the shortened lightcycle of the late fall/ winter days will make it impossible but i dont wanna give upo on this idea lol.
yes, u can clone, but id do prob 4 clones, just incase some die. there is a method called: REGENERATION. It is possible to harvest plants and then rejuvenate them vegetatively for a 2nd and even 3rd harvest. A second harvest can be realized in as little as 6-8 weeks. Since the plant stalk, and roots are already formed, the plant can produce a second, even third harvest of buds in a little more than half the time of the original harvest. When harvesting, take off the top 1/3rd of the plant. Leave most healthy fan leaves in the middle of the plant, cutting buds off branches carefully. On the lower 1/3rd of the plant, take off end flowers, but leave several small flowers on each branch. These will be the part of the plant that is regenerated. The more buds you leave on the plant, the faster it will regenerate. Feed the plant some Miracle Grow or any high nitrogen plant food immediately after harvest. When you intend to regenerate a plant, make sure it never gets too starved for nitrogen as it is maturing, or all the sun leaves will fall off, and your plant will not have enough leaves to live after being harvested.
Harvested plants can come inside for rejuvenation under continuous light or are left outside in Summer to rejuvenate in the natural long days. It will take 7-14 days to see signs of new growth when regenerating a plant. As stated before, and in contrast to normal growth patterns, lower branches will be the first to sprout new vegetative growth. Allow the plant to grow a little vegetatively, then take outside again to reflower. Or keep inside for vegetative cuttings. You now have two or three generations of plants growing, and will need more space outside. But you will now be harvesting twice as often. As often as every 30 days, since you have new clones or seedlings growing, vegetative plants ready to flower, and regenerated plants flowering too.
Regenerating indoors can create problems if your plants are infected with pests. It may be best to have a separate area indoors that will not allow your plants to infect the main indoor area. An alternative to regenerating indoors is to regenerate outdoors in the Summer. Just take a harvest in June, then allow the plant to regenerate by leaving some lower buds on the plant, and leaving the middle 1/3rd of the plant leaves at harvest. Feed it nitrogen, and make sure it gets lots of sun. It will regenerate all Summer and be quite large by Fall, when it will start to flower again naturally.
 
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hi a friend of mine is growing some "tommato's/high grade veg" lol, well u know what i mean, the thing is he wants to know if it was possible to grow a kg in a 1m2 area, and what kind of light should how many watts would he need? please he needs help peace bro!!!1
not sure what u mean by kg (kilogram, which is over 2lbs), & im assuming that 1m2 is 1meter squared, which is 3'x3'. if what i say is right maybe yes if he used the SOG method of growing & had the right high yeilding strain. the light preference is his, what can he afford & also how the grow room is designed, in a small area like that an HID will heat that room up quick, w/o proper setup.
 
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I am wondering if I should trim some of the lower leaves, as they are HUGE and they are blocking out light to the lower new growth. I'm talking these leaves dwarf my hand, and I have big hands!

Oh, I'm farming outdoors, in pots, and I'm not sure of the strain, but they're VERY healthy and dense with leaves!

Another thing, is there a way to get them to start budding sooner than waiting for the days to get short? I can't really cover them, and I'm afraid that they are going to get too big for my camoflauge, which is none! I just don't want the neighbors to spot them.

Thanks, in advance!
some people do, & some dont. u can try tieing down some of the branches to let light get inside look up LST (low stress training). i had a plant like that w/ laves as big as plates, i just moved the leaves around & tied down some branches. the ONLY way to get qa plant to bud is by changing the light cycle to 12/12. if size is your prob, try looking into LST, which is started when the plants are young, but u still might be able to get away w/ it, just be careful.
 
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Thanks for the quick reply jcj77d, well he can afford up to 1000w hps but he would like to keep it to a minimum wattage and still be able to grow a kilo maybe 600w even better a 400w or cfl's is this possible? the space he has is only a meter squared,he is going to use a grow tent,his plan is 2 weeks veg and 8 weeks flower,
he's new to sog too lol, but he has grown 50 1 meter high plants in 3gal pots and soil under a
600w lamp with nutes except that was in a big room "so he has a little experience",
he would be greatful for any advice to help him with his plan and limits thanks again.
 
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