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I can tell you when i first started,using T5s my White Widows @ 20 days were 3" tall and had 2 sets of 7 leaf pairs(very BUSHY with tite leafs)because i kept the T5 1-2" at ALL times.
im useing my t5ho (2ft 4 bulb - 8000 lumens), & my pec lamb (2ft 2bulbs - 9600 lumens) @ 1-2" away, & my babies are about 2wks old & the tallest maybe a 1 1/2" - 2" tall.
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im useing my t5ho (2ft 4 bulb - 8000 lumens), & my pec lamb (2ft 2bulbs - 9600 lumens) @ 1-2" away, & my babies are about 2wks old & the tallest maybe a 1 1/2" - 2" tall.
The bulbs i have are also HO and are 54watt 5000 lumen each,i start with 4,216watt@20,000 lumens(really could use 1 or 2 to start,but dont) then when i need the light 20" wide i turn on all 8.Also thanx JCJ,you like???
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I'm picking up some T5's today for clones & possibly some of the veg., as I've read a lot of good things about them.
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Remember i used 4' bulbs and 8 of them to get the plants to 30" with 1"-2" between the nodes.
those t5ho work great. ive been looking for the VHO (very high output), & SHO (super high output) lamps, & only been able to find vho lamps in a t8 or t12.
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The bulbs i have are also HO and are 54watt 5000 lumen each,i start with 4,216watt@20,000 lumens(really could use 1 or 2 to start,but dont) then when i need the light 20" wide i turn on all 8.Also thanx JCJ,you like???
thats cool, where u find it.
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Also for clarification the T=tube type bulb and the # is over 8 as 1" ie:T5=5/8",T8=8/8 or1" and T12=12/8 or 1.5" for those who care to know.
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thats cool, where u find it.
OH,yea....I STOLE it from another guy on another site...Just so HE don't come cryin like a girl in a pink skirt later.
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Killed all but 4 of my clones cause i only want 3 under the big T5,heres a pic of the light and the girls at 25 days and 7" with 4 lamps on.(Been out of the dome for about 11 days)in the dome they had one 42w CFL@2200k and one 26w @5500k about 4" away.
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ive only been able to find the VHO lamps in a t12. 1 t-12vho (48") bulb puts out 5600-6000 lumens. thats just 1 bulb. ive looked & looked for the SHO bulbs & only found them 1 time a few yrs ago, & they put off about 7200-8000 lumens per bulb.
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ive only been able to find the VHO lamps in a t12. 1 t-12vho (48") bulb puts out 5600-6000 lumens. thats just 1 bulb. ive looked & looked for the SHO bulbs & only found them 1 time a few yrs ago, & they put off about 7200-8000 lumens per bulb.
I feel the problem with any of the bulbs other than the T5s is that the reflectors just are not as well designed as some of the high quality T5 units,so a 5000 lumen T5 with a great reflector should be better than anything even if it puts out more light unless it has a superior reflector that is.
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Remember i used 4' bulbs and 8 of them to get the plants to 30" with 1"-2" between the nodes.
Just picked up a set of New Wave 2' 4 bulb t5's. I'm going for 3' - 3 1/2' plants max, so I think these will be great for cloning & at least early if not full veg for 2-4 plants.

We'll see.....I can't wait to get 'em fired up!!!
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I'm kinda bummed out because my new $85 Oakton PH meter wouldn't calibrate correctly, started out only getting to 7.1 instead of 7.0 w/the test solution, then over a week it went to 7.3.

My hydro store gave me a new probe (didn't even want the old one back) to try, but same results. Now they're sending it in to get looked at, but I have no meter for about 10-14 days....kind of a bummer. But, he did give me an $25 addl. discount on my T5 setup for the hassle...they've been great to deal with which is why I like to buy local whenever possible...real people, real customer service!

I do have a liquid drop type PH test kit, but as I'm about to start adding nutes I don't know how that will work out considering it sucked ass to read it w/plain water let alone w/nutes & runoff.

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Just picked up a set of New Wave 2' 4 bulb t5's. I'm going for 3' - 3 1/2' plants max, so I think these will be great for cloning & at least early if not full veg for 2-4 plants.

We'll see.....I can't wait to get 'em fired up!!!
u should, i had 2 3-4' plants under my 2' 4bulb t5, from seed to flower & got 2oz off each plant. but i did have 3 18" flouros around them as well, they are 850 lumens each.
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I'm kinda bummed out because my new $85 Oakton PH meter wouldn't calibrate correctly, started out only getting to 7.1 instead of 7.0 w/the test solution, then over a week it went to 7.3.

My hydro store gave me a new probe (didn't even want the old one back) to try, but same results. Now they're sending it in to get looked at, but I have no meter for about 10-14 days....kind of a bummer. But, he did give me an $25 addl. discount on my T5 setup for the hassle...they've been great to deal with which is why I like to buy local whenever possible...real people, real customer service!

I do have a liquid drop type PH test kit, but as I'm about to start adding nutes I don't know how that will work out considering it sucked ass to read it w/plain water let alone w/nutes & runoff.

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Ide say your moma if your hungry but if your real serious about long term growing,bite the bullet and get a GOOD meter then you will have two. I now have three and a meter will never be my problem however you need one NOW,get a loaner or another is my advice.
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I'm kinda bummed out because my new $85 Oakton PH meter wouldn't calibrate correctly, started out only getting to 7.1 instead of 7.0 w/the test solution, then over a week it went to 7.3.

My hydro store gave me a new probe (didn't even want the old one back) to try, but same results. Now they're sending it in to get looked at, but I have no meter for about 10-14 days....kind of a bummer. But, he did give me an $25 addl. discount on my T5 setup for the hassle...they've been great to deal with which is why I like to buy local whenever possible...real people, real customer service!

I do have a liquid drop type PH test kit, but as I'm about to start adding nutes I don't know how that will work out considering it sucked ass to read it w/plain water let alone w/nutes & runoff.

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youll have to play it safe, most tap water is 7.0. distilled ph is 7.0. when u add nutes to water the ph goes down, not much but it does, so i think youll be fine if u start w/ 7.0 water & add nutes will prob make it drop to 6.7-6.9.
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youll have to play it safe, most tap water is 7.0. distilled ph is 7.0. when u add nutes to water the ph goes down, not much but it does, so i think youll be fine if u start w/ 7.0 water & add nutes will prob make it drop to 6.7-6.9.
I would say this will work @1/4 nutes depending,but full strength i have found especially with R/O will have much more of an effect on PH with alot less of anything,proly cause the R/O doesn't have the buffers.
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