Ruderalis Indica Worth It?

[Piru]

Hi, i was woundering if Sesi Seeds-Ruderalis Indica is worth growing outdoors in the UK? I wanted this strain because it is an autoflowering variety much like lowrider but it is much larger, bigger yeilding and apparently quite potent(Also it's damn cheap!!!). Is it any better than lowrider#2? I have also got a few baby Nirvana-Snow White plants but i was thinking of getting a Ruderalis indica because i am not definite that the Snow Whites Will make it to harvest. Also, if they both made it to harvest would i be able to cross pollinate them and eventually make an autoflowering Snow White cross?
Thanks, Liam.

[Piru]

Also, does anyone know the germination rate and the ratio of males to females?

[Piru]

No one?

[ninfan77]

I've heard that autoflowering crosses tend to not have stable genetics, but i could be wrong.

Ruderalis is a tough plant, performs well outside, and flowers based on age. I'd go for it. The germ rate, well geez if i could predict that i'd start charging people for that knowledge. You'll get more females if you provide a stable, nutrient, co2, rich environment. Stressing the plants can sometimes lead to hermies or males.

[Piru]

Originally Posted by ninfan77

I've heard that autoflowering crosses tend to not have stable genetics, but i could be wrong.

Ruderalis is a tough plant, performs well outside, and flowers based on age. I'd go for it. The germ rate, well geez if i could predict that i'd start charging people for that knowledge. You'll get more females if you provide a stable, nutrient, co2, rich environment. Stressing the plants can sometimes lead to hermies or males.

Ok, Thanks dude.

[Piru]

Well i ordered some from EDIT anyways, they look pretty good. Hust like a bigger more potent lowrider apparently.

[toastybiz]

You probably aren't getting much response because ruderalis generally isn't grown by those seeking the mood and mind altering properties of cannabinoids. Ruderalis doesn't get you very high, if at all. Personally I wouldn't touch it, the benefit of auto-flowering is not worth the reduced yield and potency. I doubt a cross ruderalis with indica could be very potent, but I would like to hear more, report back when the grow is done.

[Piru]

Originally Posted by toastybiz

You probably aren't getting much response because ruderalis generally isn't grown by those seeking the mood and mind altering properties of cannabinoids. Ruderalis doesn't get you very high, if at all. Personally I wouldn't touch it, the benefit of auto-flowering is not worth the reduced yield and potency. I doubt a cross ruderalis with indica could be very potent, but I would like to hear more, report back when the grow is done.

Yeah, my mate a while back had some "Ruderalis Indica" from a dealer, pretty potent shit but i'm not entirely sure if it was Ruderalis Indica anyway, probably just a dealer using a fancy name. If it's as good as lowrider it will be worth it because of the increaced yeilds anyway. I just wanted it because i want something ready for July and it seems apart from lowrider this was the only strain feesable(And lowrider is a rip off, £35 for 10 seeds and a maximum of an 0z per plant!!!) I'll start a diary when i get them.

Thanks, Liam.

[Buzzard]

Ruderalis is ditchweed.

3 types of pot
Indica
Sativa
Ruderalis

Ruderalis is the worst

[p2o5]

Truly Buzzard is right. Ruderalis in itself has little or no thc, BUT by crossing with some indica strains breeders have acheived some unstable, mediocre to decently potent weed. The RI that I grew out produced about 50% actual auto-flowering and two phenos- one sparse and leafy, with low potency and one mediocre in yield and potentcy. It has been awhile since, so they may have gotten better ie. more stable. You can cross with your snow white, and given time you may be able to pruduce a stable cross that is auto-flowering. Your f2's will probably produce 25% AF which you would back cross to the original, which should produce 50% AF and so on. Eventually being the key word. You may be farther ahead by trying some early flowering strains.

[Piru]

Originally Posted by p2o5

Truly Buzzard is right. Ruderalis in itself has little or no thc, BUT by crossing with some indica strains breeders have acheived some unstable, mediocre to decently potent weed. The RI that I grew out produced about 50% actual auto-flowering and two phenos- one sparse and leafy, with low potency and one mediocre in yield and potentcy. It has been awhile since, so they may have gotten better ie. more stable. You can cross with your snow white, and given time you may be able to pruduce a stable cross that is auto-flowering. Your f2's will probably produce 25% AF which you would back cross to the original, which should produce 50% AF and so on. Eventually being the key word. You may be farther ahead by trying some early flowering strains.

Thanks for that, i've already ordered them and they're on their way anyways. I just wanted them so i could get an early smoke as i have read that they go from seed to harvest in 3-1/2 months so if i plant in the next few weeks i should have some bud by july-early august give or take. I'm not too bothered about the potentcy as long as it gets me and my buddys high untill the Snow White is ready. As for the crossing, i dont think i'll bother with that, seems like too much hassle to me, i may cross polinate say one flower of one plant just for a few seeds and see how they fare next year.
Thanks, Liam.

[Spittn4cash]

why would you grow a bunch of plants that dont require much light or space outside? an animal could walk up and ruin yor entire crop in a single night.. that would be ok with regular sativa/indica, but there is no chance of coming back with a rud..

I dunno it seems like to much of a risk to take for a couple ounces of weed.

my advice, dont grow it outside, you can easily grow them indoors in a rubbermaid box with about 150W of CFL's and run the lights for 24hrs...dont have to worry about temps, raising the lights, or no crazy bullshyt i had to go thru with my plants..

make sure U start a journal on these plants too Id love to follow it..