How-To : LST (Low Stress Training)

[cannabizcam]

thats a great post. ive been using the lst method my last few grows but i havent circled the stem around the pot. i am going to have to try that next grow.

[BoyintheBUbble]

why cant i see the pics . Ive been tring lst on my babies too. Cant beleive how big the other branches get after bending,,,god bless lst

[dankenstein]

dier, you mentioned cutting off the inside fan leaves before flowering. How many of these should you cut and where should you cut them? My current grow looks similar to your lst/fim pic, and I am about to flower and want to open up light to as many bud sites as possible without hurting the girl by cutting off too many fan leaves or trimming too much. thanks.

[DierWolf]

I am talking about the fanleaves that are on the main stem thats circling the pot, not the fanleafs coming off the branches growing upwards...

If it was done properly (the lst) they would be getting no light anyways and would be yellow and or already fallen off.

[DierWolf]

oh dankenstien also.

if you want more light penetration while flowering just tie back some of the outter branches a little at a 45 degree angle to let the more inner branches get better light....

I use MH in combination with HPS for flowering so i have no problems with light penetration.

[DierWolf]

Originally Posted by urgr8estfear

As usual Dierwolf produces excellent posts.
The only way I see to improve on this is by using square pots instead of round ones.

square 1x1 ----> 1
circle diameter 1 ----> r^2*pi = 0.5*0.5*3.14= 0.785
1/0.785 = 1.27388....
So a square is bigger by 27.4%

LOL, like i stated this is just ONE way to do LST, its not the hard and fast way it was just intended to show how LST is done (The tieing down on the main stem) just so happens i used the circular method to show you guys.

you can.

Egg Crate it (fill an entire eggcrate like Gator1)
Circular method like this one.
Simple tie down from just about anything around the pot

you could even strap it horizontally along a fence for all i care as long as the main stems stay horizontal is the point LST is all about.

Mister2, your looking great in the pic you started a journal on that yet?

[SmokeTokeChoke]

OMG this couldn't of be posted at a better time. i have to repot and start LSTing tommarow. im at my 5 fan leaf though. so i have to start now. i have them in 2lt and growing good just need to transplant now. a++

[SmokeTokeChoke]

question: do you think you can throw a Scrog net over the top of it and tie shit down so the bush inside and outside its equal lightage or would you suggest just leting em go. also do you cut any fan leafs during flowering to help light penetration.

(these questions are more directed to CFL or T5 users with limited grow space)

[dankenstein]

Originally Posted by SmokeTokeChoke

also do you cut any fan leafs during flowering to help light penetration.

(these questions are more directed to CFL or T5 users with limited grow space)

As far as fan leaves and light penetration, I cut two out of many fan leafs, and only those because they were blocking a lot of budsites. I did this before switching to flowering. On the first day of flowering I gently tucked away and under all remaining fan leaves that were blocking light. The two leafs I did cut off were on the main bent branches, and none from the vertical branches. I am using a 125W CFL in a very limited space and this seems to get light to most of the budsites, with the help of some mylar.

[BakedSt8r]

Great post!

You can get very creative in how you use LST. True, there are other ways to do this, but it really helps us see different techniques.

I really like the fact that you can increase your yield and limit your overall height thus making it more difficult to detect

[johnboy21]

it is a good i dear but i forgot to top them but doing ok two of them have gone really brown curled up any tips on that it would be greatfull

[johnboy21]

any body any idears on why they go brown and start curling up and all of them sooner or later start curling down lights not to close temp just right humid ok

[DierWolf]

Originally Posted by SmokeTokeChoke

question: do you think you can throw a Scrog net over the top of it and tie shit down so the bush inside and outside its equal lightage or would you suggest just leting em go. also do you cut any fan leafs during flowering to help light penetration.

(these questions are more directed to CFL or T5 users with limited grow space)

no i dont cut any fanleafs during flowering, in LST or SCROG your tops will be even and buds will start right there so should have more than enough light penetration.

I do however cut fanleafs during veg to help light penetration to get as many branches as possible.

[DierWolf]

pics please.

[tn88]

This may be a stupid question but what the heck - can LST be done with a hydroponic setup?