How-To : Fimming and Topping made Easy - Page 2

MARYJANE86 · #16 (**permalink**) 11-09-2006, 03:02 PM

So I was having a debate with my fiance. we recently tryed to fim a plant. this is the first time we have tryed it so he cut the top and it has been about a week. the bottom branches are starting to grow straighter upwards than the other plant we did not fim. so he says that all of teh branches that were already there before fim are going to be tops.
i am under the impression that he is incorrect and that all of the lower branches are not going to be tops. only the two top branches where we cut are going to turn to tops and anything that grows after that.

please help me resolve this conflict

THANKS

dierwolf you are very smart i read a lot of your posts looking for my answer and you taught me a lot! thanks!

peace bud and happiness

maryjane

unoit · #17 (**permalink**) 11-09-2006, 03:47 PM

HIGH All, great pictorial.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DierWolf

Fimming is actually no different that topping, what fimming does is virtually the exact same thing only your leaving part of the new growth. This only takes of part of the new growth and actually topping the very very new growth which is very hard to see.

I said the same thing and we went back and forth with it remember.

DierWolf · #18 (**permalink**) 11-09-2006, 05:34 PM

Yes he is sort of right.. All branches reaching the same level as the top of the plant can be considered "Tops".

Same with LST, all side branches formed because of it becomes Tops, more tops = better than one top.

Fimming helps this process along greatly because it slows the top growth and the plant forces its energy towards the side pushing out branches faster... I fim continuously every new growth i see, causing alot of branches to grow even from the side branches that have formed.

more branches = more bud sites or Collas (tops)

DierWolf · #19 (**permalink**) 11-09-2006, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unoit

HIGH All, great pictorial.

I said the same thing and we went back and forth with it remember.

Yes, but we were arguing/discussing the same thing..

YOu said or many said fimming causes 3-4 new tops right at the top of the plant out of the main stem.

This is not really what happens, it just appears so.. but i am sure the pictures and explaination now show exactly what its doing.

Thanks for the reply Uniot, we havent spoken much in a while.

BrazyJay · #20 (**permalink**) 11-09-2006, 09:56 PM

thank u very much for the FIM guide the pictures are really worth a thousand words... just fimmed one of my plants to see if i did it right lmao.... been looking for a guide for a couple days

unoit · #21 (**permalink**) 11-10-2006, 04:55 PM

HIGH All, remember this...

Quote:

:
Originally Posted by DierWolf
yes i jump to the conclusion you have never done it or you would know that topping is not the same as fimming.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DierWolf

Fimming is actually no different that topping,

But hey I knew this Already..glad to see you come around.

DierWolf · #22 (**permalink**) 11-10-2006, 05:49 PM

ROFLMAO!!

Boy you have some time on your hands and the memory of an elephant, i couldnt even remember the thread that was in LOL.

Well actually it is different

Topping cuts off actually 2 new growth nodes completely (just they so tiny at the time looks like just one and fimming cuts off only 1 and part of the fanleaf of the 2nd

Anywhooo ..... were both right, think if i remember right the debate was really about the number of new tops created, which topping is 2 and fimming is 4

GrowBot · #23 (**permalink**) 11-10-2006, 06:26 PM

(dierwolf/unoit) you guys should be applauded! i've seen posts like the last couple, erupt into flame wars. it's great to see people being able to communicate with each other without freaking out. hats off to you's!!!

DierWolf · #24 (**permalink**) 11-10-2006, 08:58 PM

Hope this large close up view (which you cant really make out with the naked eye) helps everyone see what exactly takes place when Fimming or Topping...

TechnoMage · #25 (**permalink**) 11-11-2006, 01:28 AM

DierWolf, props again. This makes it so much clearer to me. I was going to skip it for my first grow but with this thread I think I'll try it.

arcadianskies77 · #26 (**permalink**) 11-15-2006, 12:01 AM

Why is topping an option if femming produces double the results? And is there any way to mess up femming or is it pretty much foolproof if you cut in the right area?

DierWolf · #27 (**permalink**) 11-15-2006, 04:43 PM

because topping is guaranteed a Y branch and Fimming if not done properly not work.

I myself do not do fimming for 4 tops.... i use the techique and only cut 50% of the new growth instead of 80%, I do this just to slow down growth at that point to force more branches from the nodes below it.

so usually i just top the plant at 3rd leaf set, and then fim 50% to force branching.

KamelRedLight · #28 (**permalink**) 11-15-2006, 06:30 PM

Hey, I just tried topping my plant. This was done 9 days into flowering. Can you tell me if I did it right?

DierWolf · #29 (**permalink**) 11-15-2006, 09:55 PM

First pic looks fine, second doesnt look like you did anything maybe its a
AFTER/BEFORE pic instead of a BEFORE/AFTER pic

KamelRedLight · #30 (**permalink**) 11-15-2006, 10:45 PM

Yeah I posted em backwards, I smoke weed. Thanks for the help, I'm interested to see how it affects yield so I'm growing another clone right next to her without topping.

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#16 (permalink) 11-09-2006, 03:02 PM
MARYJANE86 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1	FIM question So I was having a debate with my fiance. we recently tryed to fim a plant. this is the first time we have tryed it so he cut the top and it has been about a week. the bottom branches are starting to grow straighter upwards than the other plant we did not fim. so he says that all of teh branches that were already there before fim are going to be tops. i am under the impression that he is incorrect and that all of the lower branches are not going to be tops. only the two top branches where we cut are going to turn to tops and anything that grows after that. please help me resolve this conflict THANKS dierwolf you are very smart i read a lot of your posts looking for my answer and you taught me a lot! thanks! peace bud and happiness maryjane

#18 (permalink) 11-09-2006, 05:34 PM
DierWolf Ganja Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Caribbean Posts: 4,240	Yes he is sort of right.. All branches reaching the same level as the top of the plant can be considered "Tops". Same with LST, all side branches formed because of it becomes Tops, more tops = better than one top. Fimming helps this process along greatly because it slows the top growth and the plant forces its energy towards the side pushing out branches faster... I fim continuously every new growth i see, causing alot of branches to grow even from the side branches that have formed. more branches = more bud sites or Collas (tops) __________________ Signature removed for violation of the signature rule.

#20 (permalink) 11-09-2006, 09:56 PM
BrazyJay Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: somewhere between the clouds and the ozone layer Posts: 1,687	thank u very much for the FIM guide the pictures are really worth a thousand words... just fimmed one of my plants to see if i did it right lmao.... been looking for a guide for a couple days

#22 (permalink) 11-10-2006, 05:49 PM
DierWolf Ganja Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Caribbean Posts: 4,240	ROFLMAO!! Boy you have some time on your hands and the memory of an elephant, i couldnt even remember the thread that was in LOL. Well actually it is different Topping cuts off actually 2 new growth nodes completely (just they so tiny at the time looks like just one and fimming cuts off only 1 and part of the fanleaf of the 2nd Anywhooo ..... were both right, think if i remember right the debate was really about the number of new tops created, which topping is 2 and fimming is 4 __________________ Signature removed for violation of the signature rule.

#23 (permalink) 11-10-2006, 06:26 PM
GrowBot Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,491	(dierwolf/unoit) you guys should be applauded! i've seen posts like the last couple, erupt into flame wars. it's great to see people being able to communicate with each other without freaking out. hats off to you's!!!

#24 (permalink) 11-10-2006, 08:58 PM
DierWolf Ganja Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Caribbean Posts: 4,240	Hope this large close up view (which you cant really make out with the naked eye) helps everyone see what exactly takes place when Fimming or Topping... __________________ Signature removed for violation of the signature rule.

#25 (permalink) 11-11-2006, 01:28 AM
TechnoMage Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Woodinville Posts: 277	DierWolf, props again. This makes it so much clearer to me. I was going to skip it for my first grow but with this thread I think I'll try it.

#26 (permalink) 11-15-2006, 12:01 AM
arcadianskies77 Oneironaut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bristol, VA Posts: 1,686	Why is topping an option if femming produces double the results? And is there any way to mess up femming or is it pretty much foolproof if you cut in the right area?

#27 (permalink) 11-15-2006, 04:43 PM
DierWolf Ganja Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Caribbean Posts: 4,240	because topping is guaranteed a Y branch and Fimming if not done properly not work. I myself do not do fimming for 4 tops.... i use the techique and only cut 50% of the new growth instead of 80%, I do this just to slow down growth at that point to force more branches from the nodes below it. so usually i just top the plant at 3rd leaf set, and then fim 50% to force branching. __________________ Signature removed for violation of the signature rule.

#29 (permalink) 11-15-2006, 09:55 PM
DierWolf Ganja Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Caribbean Posts: 4,240	First pic looks fine, second doesnt look like you did anything maybe its a AFTER/BEFORE pic instead of a BEFORE/AFTER pic __________________ Signature removed for violation of the signature rule.

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#30 (permalink) 11-15-2006, 10:45 PM
KamelRedLight Registered Abuser Join Date: May 2006 Location: Anywhere but here... Posts: 1,200	Yeah I posted em backwards, I smoke weed. Thanks for the help, I'm interested to see how it affects yield so I'm growing another clone right next to her without topping. __________________ Who needs HID? 1st ... 2nd... Last Give a man an eighth, and he will smoke for a day. Teach a man to grow, and he will toke for life. CFL Guide...Trichome 101