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Transplanting Too Big Too Soon?

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Is there a disadvantage to transplanting too big too soon? I had roots coming out of my solo cups after a week so I transplanted in the only things that I had. 7 gal Smart Pots. Whoops! They're doing great at the moment.

I don't think that the smart pots are exactly helping at this point. And, yes, I had to water them an absolute ton. But if transplanting is going to stress my kids then why do it at all. Why not just plant the germinated seed in your final grow pot whatever it may be. I kinda enjoyed watering them so much to get all of my mix moist like how it's going to need to be for the next 3-4 months. I considered it excellent practice. Showed me how much of a pain in the ass it's going to be to get all that water out of my RO Filter!

Anyway I'm just curious on everybody's thoughts. Thanks!
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Awhile back i read that it was better to start small and work up I kind of juss go by that now but when you transplant your adding fresh soil so fresh nutrients and thats a plus also maybe im crazy but I think roots look for tha walls they reach trying to get there growing thicker and stronger

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Hell no. The bigger the container the faster the plant will grow. Guaranteed. Most plants slow growth down when the roots hit the side of the container they're in. Ye more space for the roots to spread laterally the bigger the plant is gonna be. I plant seeds directly into my five gals the moment they sprout. Most of the time I do anyway. I experiment sometimes but straight to the bigger containers is always better
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Awhile back i read that it was better to start small and work up I kind of juss go by that now but when you transplant your adding fresh soil so fresh nutrients and thats a plus also maybe im crazy but I think roots look for tha walls they reach trying to get there growing thicker and stronger


It's actually the exact opposite. They slow down and get rootbou d the moment they hit the sides and the roots start Ito a swirling pattern at the bottom. Bigger in this case is most deffinitly better. I can't even stress this enough
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So what I did is okay! Great! I've read a lot of what Irod said too but it just never made sense to me why gradually is better. The plant doesn't know the difference until it hits the edge. The only downside i can think of is the extra watering to keep everything moist.

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It's actually the exact opposite. They slow down and get rootbou d the moment they hit the sides and the roots start Ito a swirling pattern at the bottom. Bigger in this case is most deffinitly better. I can't even stress this enough


You successfully said tha exact thing twice right after each other so congrats you waste of space and where exactly did you read to allow your plant to become root bound? Cuz I dont see that anywhere also wat are your reasons behind your so called "guaranteed" methods you say what you believe to be true but give no explain other than more space equals bigger plant n thats common sense so please do explain numbnutts

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So what I did is okay! Great! I've read a lot of what Irod said too but it just never made sense to me why gradually is better. The plant doesn't know the difference until it hits the edge. The only downside i can think of is the extra watering to keep everything moist.


Exactly it is a lot of extra watering and your soil will stay moist longer puting more time between waterings which is never good tha more water its taking in tha more its working/feeding your plant is doing and theres not a lot of research done on this subject shown by how little info there is online. All in all your plants will be fine bro and ppl are still entitled to their opinions

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Sizing up gradually to the finished pot is standard green industry practice across the world. When planting small plants in a container too large, the bottom of the pots get waterlogged and roots never enter these anaerobic areas and slow growth is the result. Transplanting into multiple containers will not slow down the growth when done properly.

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I planted straight into final pots it makes sense because your handling the plant an its roots far less, especially with autos. Repotting = stress

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Sizing up gradually to the finished pot is standard green industry practice across the world. When planting small plants in a container too large, the bottom of the pots get waterlogged and roots never enter these anaerobic areas and slow growth is the result. Transplanting into multiple containers will not slow down the growth when done properly.

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Okay. Good Answer. I can understand that. Basically you want to gradually transplant up in size but the hard part is that you have to make sure that you don't wait too long for you plant to get root bound.

Question - Is it easy for soil to get water logged in a container like a smart pot? Essentially it's a sack of woven plastic fabric. It doesn't hold water. I have mine on top of milk crates. Water and air alike can flow somewhat freely. I'm obviously not going to switch back into a smaller pot now. What's done is done for this grow. But always good to know so I can form my own opinion for next time with my new knowledge so I can make an informed decision. Thanks again!

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If your solo cup was rooted to the sides and bottom before transplant, the plug is big enough to transplant to a 5-7 gal pot with no problems. I am talking more about small seedlings planted into large pots. The pots should drain enough to keep this from happening using the fabric pots, just don't get too heavy handed, or too frequent on the watering when the plant is small and it will only take a couple of weeks to start filling out well.

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You successfully said tha exact thing twice right after each other so congrats you waste of space and where exactly did you read to allow your plant to become root bound? Cuz I dont see that anywhere also wat are your reasons behind your so called "guaranteed" methods you say what you believe to be true but give no explain other than more space equals bigger plant n thats common sense so please do explain numbnutts


Let's see your plants jackass then well talk. Mine are in my journal. Your a hack and you shouldn't be giving anyone advice on jack shit because your an ignorant fuck
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To the op. there's a bunch of good guys at the global thread. You don't have to listen to me I think my results speak for them selves. Hope to see you there.
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Let's see your plants jackass then well talk. Mine are in my journal. Your a hack and you shouldn't be giving anyone advice on jack shit because your an ignorant fuck


Let me give you some advice bro you come around disrespecting wen it was uncalled for and youll get your fucking teeth knocked out id lyke to see you get brave face to face youll back off lyke tha bitch you r. look at my plants? Fuck your plants you punk ass

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if you are worried you can(next time) start in the small smart-pots/air-pots then simply put the small inside the larger pots later as the roots will grow through the pot.

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the idear of a forum is to help other growers if you have a difference of opinion SO WHAT!! grow up the pair of you and chill out , if you can't then PM each other instead of this crap on MikeD89's thread please.
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Ive found less is more, Ive gotten much bigger harvests from lower ppms then from high.

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if you are worried you can(next time) start in the small smart-pots/air-pots then simply put the small inside the larger pots later as the roots will grow through the pot.

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Dear lrod1516 & numbnutts
the idear of a forum is to help other growers if you have a difference of opinion SO WHAT!! grow up the pair of you and chill out , if you can't then PM each other instead of this crap on MikeD89's thread please.
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I'm not sure that the roots will grow through the smaller smart pots. I could be wrong though.

I do totally agree about people needing to relax a little bit. It's just a plant.

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Roots don't grow through smart pots guys :) at least none of the ones I've used.

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Roots don't grow through smart pots guys :) at least none of the ones I've used.


Yeah I didn't think so... It was my understanding that when the roots hit the sides of the pot they bounce off and divide. No grow through the walls. It'd be difficult to say the least to get nutrients to the roots hanging out the outside. Haha

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i have not used the smartpots or airpots but this has come up on here a few times, and many/some ok 2or3 have said to plant the small one inside a bigger one as the roots grow through.
are air-pots & smart-pots the same? may be it's the air-pots that let roots grow through sorry if i have given you bum info mike.
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I've had roots come out of smart pots, sides and bottoms. And the soil is what holds most of the water not necessarily the pot.

I agree with the earlier statement, you will be fine as long as you don't over water, when it comes to watering less is more, I rarely have any runoff. The more you water into soil not filled with roots the more it will compact and the longer the water will sit.


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