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Originally Posted by DaZEED&ConFuseD
When I say religion I mean those whose beliefs are based on faith.
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Such as evolution... Evolution takes faith regardless of whether or not you want to admit it. You have to trust in a theory that can never be 100% proven. Just as I have to trust that God miraculously provided a sanctuary within Noah's ark.
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Originally Posted by DaZEED&ConFuseD
You say we should take the bible literally, but how does noah's ark save all the species of animals in the world, including all insects? There is no possible way you can take the bible literally when it explains the global flood without coming up with some faith based explanation.
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Right, and evolution takes just as much faith. When I say to take the Bible literally, what I mean is what the Bible says - that's what it means. None of that "everything is a metaphore" crap.
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Originally Posted by DaZEED&ConFuseD
I have proven to you that the earth is indeed not 10,000 years old. Just think of how many light years we are away from the closet star or the farthest known. So how can you claim to take the bible literally?
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You have proven no such thing. You simply refused to accept my answer and dismissed my verses as "arbitrary." But if you go by a literal interpretation, then God literally stretched out the heavens. I can look up those verses again and give you the literal meaning of the Hebrew or Greek words used if you wish. This way you can't just pass it off as arbitrary...
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Originally Posted by DaZEED&ConFuseD
Why do we have to believe that some God created the world? What makes you so right? Why is it such a threat that tmight be an alternative way the world was created and more specifically how there is so much diversity.
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And why did we have to occur by accident over billions of years? I did pleanty of research as I, myself, used to believe in evolution at one point. Then I decided to not be so close-minded and give the other side a chance. I made my decision based on research I've done.
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Originally Posted by DaZEED&ConFuseD
Evidence? Sarcopterygii and Archaeopteryx. These are two transitional fossils that showed they had the ability to enter a new environment. Sarcopterygii was a fish that is theorized to have been one of the first animals to come upon land. The fish has a foreman much like an amphibians which is theorized to be the first terrestrial organisms. Also, this type of fish is a lungfish, which has a lung. These adaptions would have allowed the first terrestrials to reach land. Just look at fossisls and bones and look at the similarities.
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So why is it that only 1 type of fish has a lung? And this is so that the fish can move from one body of water to another... Not so it can make a permenant home on land. Archaeoptreryx (I think this was the fossil, but I could be wrong) was admitted by the one who discovered it, to be 100% BIRD.
Many animals have similar features. I attribute this to an intelligent creator who knew that many animals were going to need similar features in order to survive.
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Originally Posted by DaZEED&ConFuseD
Show me a credible non-creationist, un bias article that talks about your arguement about the geologic strata or whatever. You give a lot of evidence against evolution and i think most of it is bullshit. Give credible nonbias links.
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Well, I believe the same thing about you. Why don't you try giving me some non-biased links that prove evolution. I gaurantee you'll be quite hard pressed to find one as everyone is biased towards this topic. They believe one way or the other, and whichever way they believe will affect their arguments.
Most of my claims on the geologic strata are common sense. It's layered, fossils are mostly found in groups, and there's rocks that aren't being made anymore that span entire continents. So... where's my bias in that? I've given solid arguments against evolution, and the only reason you think they're bull-shit is because evolution/uniformitarianism CAN'T explain them away.
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Originally Posted by DaZEED&ConFuseD
Evidence that evolution has taken place? Look at mammals. We have only been around for a small part of the time. Is it coincidence that evolution is about order and hierachry? Do you not see the order and hierarchy of evolution? Mammals are the bested adapted to our environments. We have hair and glands which allow us to control our body temperatures, which is a lot of better than any other nonmammal organism. Mammal's neopallium [ which is a part of the brain that deals with learning] is enlarged. What seperates humans from other mammals is basically our cerbal cortex which has only recently [in the past 10 millions years] has developed. Whether God's hand is used to start evolution is debatable.
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Explain then the evolution of language, abstract thought, and our ability to pass on knowledge to further generations... These all separate us from animals. God designed us for our enviornments (animals included)... Do you think that a series of lucky accidents (evolution) could create such a perfectly balanced ecosystem? Honestly? Because, to me, that is pleanty of proof of an intelligent creator.
Sorry man... But you've proven nothing, and you've given no solid arguments that point toward your side.